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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 08, 2021, 12:45:33 AM »

Okay I see it now.  For the first half I thought that maybe it was a cgi Trump but then he started in with something about elections being insecure or forged ballots or something.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 08, 2021, 12:41:31 AM »

Trump sheepishly said the election is over, seems like he was convinced of the wisdom of a freely given concession.  It will just be Tom and Sydney Powell fighting this until 2024.

Did he?  The only thing I've seen him release so far is a video where he says that the election was stolen but please stop committing treason immediately followed by claiming the election was stolen several times.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 04:26:38 PM »

Indeed.  The seeds of something terrible have been planted here.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 07, 2021, 03:42:54 PM »

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/trump-says-there-will-be-an-orderly-transition-of-power.html

Meanwhile, apparently even Trump was so shocked and horrified by the violence he stoked yesterday that it's snapped him into half-heartedly agreeing to a peaceful transition of power. So positive result, I guess.

Yeah it's something but without Trump admitting that he lost it's not all that helpful.

That's the root of the problem.  If you truly before that the government is being overthrown in an illegitimate coup then you sort of have a responsibility to act.  Most of these rioters don't have the expertise to judge if an election was carried out fairly or not.  They rely on their political leaders to sum it up for them.  And when Trump constantly tells them it's rigged and a large part of congressional republicans don't correct him then this is what you get.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 06, 2021, 05:10:32 PM »

I think it was Mitch, maybe one of the other gop senators who asked "what's the harm in humoring Trump?" 

This is the harm.  You lose the senate and Trump spends the next 4 years trying to get the indoor republicans primaried.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide

« on: January 06, 2021, 03:47:17 PM »

I believe there was a rumor that his earliest rallies and maybe some of his primary debates had paid actors.  Seriously doubt there's any serious number of paid actors if any at his regular rallies.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 06, 2021, 07:13:25 AM »

Tom I think I may owe you an apology.  I didn't think Trump had a plan let alone the skill to execute it.  But here we are.  He loses the house.  He manages to lose to Joe Biden, Joe fucking Biden! 

Then, this is very masterful, he jumps into the special elections in georgia, these special elections are in the bag by the way.  No one the dems can win.  But uh oh, here comes Trump and starts going on and on about rigged elections.  And pushing stimulus money that people desperately need but only democrats would support. 

So now Trump has single handed given us the House, the Senate and the presidency.  And on his way out the door he is bisecting the republican party.

I must admit.  I laughed when those Q people said there's a plan.  I have sen the plan and it is beautiful.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 06, 2021, 05:39:58 AM »

It was this Ruby Freeman.  Trump tried to warn us but we didn't listen.

WE DIDN'T LISTEN!!!

Hope you like being force fed soy cakes and having to listen to Enya 24/7.  The democrats terrifying agenda is upon us.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 05, 2021, 07:22:49 PM »

What a relief that would be for the republicans, to not have Trump's deranged tweets derailing everything they did for the next 4 years.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 05, 2021, 07:17:56 PM »

Oh that was the reason?  It wasn't that republicans outnumbered democrats in the senate at the time?

If you are going to claim it's partisan then you debonked yourself, because the Democrats in the House were the ones who initiated the impeachment proceedings.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/house-prepares-to-vote-on-impeaching-trump-11576667768

House Votes to Impeach President Trump

"Democrats and Republicans vote almost entirely along party lines; president denounces effort to remove him from office

...

Nearly all Democrats, led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.), supported abuse-of-power and obstruction-of-Congress charges against Mr. Trump in the wake of his pressing Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, a leading 2020 Democratic presidential candidate.

The chamber’s Republicans rejected both articles, saying Democrats failed to show that Mr. Trump had committed a crime and that they had managed a flawed process."

Trump's impeachment was bipartisan.  In the senate democrats and a republican voted to convict.  So it's not quite along party lines.

Also many republicans openly acknowledged Trump's abuses of power but decided that impeachment wasn't the best remedy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 05, 2021, 06:43:37 PM »

Oh look, the leftists are wrong again.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/liberal-lawyer-dershowitz-says-no-trump-crime-georgia-call-just

Liberal lawyer Dershowitz says no Trump crime in Georgia call, just bad media reporting

"I've been teaching criminal law for over 50 years. I went through every word of that transcript, there is no crime there, period," famed law professor says.

Isn't Dershowitz that lawyer that defended Trump from impeachment with the argument that if Trump believes that fixing the election is in the country's best interest that it's not illegal?

And Trump was acquitted by the Senate, showing that Dershowitz was correct that Trump did not commit a crime. The unhinged leftists were wrong again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51394383

Trump acquitted by Senate in impeachment trial

"President Donald Trump has been found not guilty in his impeachment trial, ending a bid to remove him from office that bitterly divided the US."

Oh that was the reason?  It wasn't that republicans outnumbered democrats in the senate at the time?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 05, 2021, 06:27:39 PM »

Oh look, the leftists are wrong again.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/liberal-lawyer-dershowitz-says-no-trump-crime-georgia-call-just

Liberal lawyer Dershowitz says no Trump crime in Georgia call, just bad media reporting

"I've been teaching criminal law for over 50 years. I went through every word of that transcript, there is no crime there, period," famed law professor says.

Isn't Dershowitz that lawyer that defended Trump from impeachment with the argument that if Trump believes that fixing the election is in the country's best interest that it's not illegal?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: January 05, 2021, 04:46:46 AM »

Did you scream at your computer when you heard the audio?

Not really.  I felt more embarrassed for "conservatives".  This is a level of self humiliation that's usually reserved for porn sites.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes

« on: December 18, 2020, 08:10:57 PM »

It really must be watched multiple times to be appreciated.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 17, 2020, 05:46:49 PM »

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/16/politics/donald-trump-pardons-lame-duck/index.html

I so, so hope Trump does end up refusing to leave the Whote House. What a wonderful parting gift from him it would be to see him being escorted from the premises, or maybe even physically dragged if he's dumb enough to refuse to comply. It seems unlikely, but we can dream.

I'd like to imagine it looking something like this,

or maybe this,

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: When it Pays to be a Democrat

« on: December 16, 2020, 05:28:58 PM »

tHE LefT eAts iTs PWN

Hmm... I don't like the idea that we should treat the infractions of a president differently based on party affiliation.

But to be clear on this, there's just not a lot that we know right now.  Here's what we know.

There's a criminal investigation into Hunter Biden.
This investigation might be politically motivated but probably not.
And that's it.

Any allegations that this had anything to do with Biden are speculations at this point.  Fortunately this isn't a matter up to the court of public opinion.  He'll be investigated, then indicted or not.  Then maybe found guilty or not.  But if it isn't connected to the president then it's something that just doesn't matter all that much. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 15, 2020, 04:54:25 PM »

Et tu, Putin?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/15/putin-russia-biden-election-445401

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 15, 2020, 04:34:29 AM »

My guess is Trump's next move is to tweet that he's fired the Supreme Court.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 14, 2020, 04:48:03 PM »

Today's the day electors vote.

After Today, congress then counts the vote on January 6 and once they are counted and accepted, we are done.

Wrong!  These votes are being delivered over Zoom streams.  Massive fraud!  Trump went from winning by a lot of electoral votes to losing by a little.  There appears to be a massive vote dump which is curiously all for Biden scheduled in about an hour from now!

This is all predetermined!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 12, 2020, 06:16:13 PM »

In a final act of petulance, driven by his narcissistic inability to admit he lost, Trump has sown as much doubt and division as possible.

Trump is childish and egotistical, yes, but I think this was more of a business decision than just personal outrage. It's easy to mock Trump as a loser with no dignity, but in at least one respect, this charade has objectively been an enormous success:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/03/politics/trump-fundraising-election-day/index.html

The sheer amount of money he has raised from gullible idiots is certainly a big bonus. Is that his primary motive? Possibly, but I’m a bit sceptical. That implies a level of strategic thinking and intelligence I don’t think he possesses.

I disagree.  Grifting any money from whoever he can has been a pretty consistent theme of his presidency and life really.

There's been a constant stream of reports where Trump keeps stuffing as many government employees in his resorts and charging as much as possible.  It's a really weird way to bilk the taxpayers.  It's like he doesn't have the imagination to think bigger.