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And before the conservatard snowflakes start whining about the 2nd Amendment, The 2nd Amendment says nothing about individual gun rights. The citizens have a right to bear arms in the form of a well regulated militia as a balance of power against the Feds. It doesn't mean some punk gets to wander the streets at night with a rifle.
I'm not sure that quite aligns with the actual state of the law. Perhaps you could point towards some precedent of the 2nd Amendment being interpreted this way by US courts?

This is known.

On the crafting of the Second Amendment at the Constitutional Convention

It was in response to the concerns coming out of the Virginia ratification convention for the Constitution, led by Patrick Henry and George Mason, that a militia that was controlled solely by the federal government would not be there to protect the slave owners from an enslaved uprising. And ... James Madison crafted that language in order to mollify the concerns coming out of Virginia and the anti-Federalists, that they would still have full control over their state militias — and those militias were used in order to quell slave revolts. ... The Second Amendment really provided the cover, the assurances that Patrick Henry and George Mason needed, that the militias would not be controlled by the federal government, but that they would be controlled by the states and at the beck and call of the states to be able to put down these uprisings.

The interpretation of the second amendment as some kind of hedge against tyranny is relatively recent.  You can see why.  We really don't want to admit that it's there to put down slave revolts.  So we rebranded its intent.

It's also interesting to note that any time a large group of black people start exercising this right then conservatives start to get very reasonable very quickly regarding gun control.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: November 20, 2021, 09:27:57 AM »
Unless the 2024 democratic ticket is devoid of both Biden and Harris it's likely we're in for another 4 years of the Donald.

There is a virtually 0% chance that Trump wins ever again.

This sounds reassuring but I must disagree.  I can easily see a lot of scenarios where Trump would win again.

That's another weird thing about this trial.  It's apparently not a pass or fail on the charges.  It's kind of a sliding scale.  They could find him guilty of murder.  They could also find him guilty of j walking during self defense and everything in between.

The interesting thing about that third guy.  Rittenhouse probably has a good self defense argument there.  But suppose the other guy drew quicker.  Then he'd be the one on trial and he also has an equally good claim for self defense.

It just illustrates how insane the whole "good guy with a gun" thing is.  If everyone was armed at this protest then it would have been a bloodbath.

Exactly. It unfairly prejudices the jury. His history in this case, has nothing to do with the events under investigation.

But his history does have everything to do with this case. Are you even reading my posts? The point of the case is to show that he was a violent aggressor and Rittenhouse had to defend himself. That the man has a history of violence is obviously relevant. His violent personality got him killed (deservedly).

And here we see the exact reason why a prior conviction would not be allowed to be introduced in a trial.

It's not a good reason.

Are you saying it's okay for civilians to kill people if they've done sufficiently bad things in their past?

Do you disagree with the idea of the state's monopoly on violence?

I’m not 100% sure, but I thought I read that the dead guy’s prior convictions could not be introduced in the trial. There was a motion from the defense to do so but I think it was denied.

Precisely because they knew it'd affect the jury's opinion of him. If I were on the jury and I knew he'd killed a child rapist, I'd vote not guilty, whether it were self-defense or not.

And here we see the exact reason why a prior conviction would not be allowed to be introduced in a trial.


I'll admit that the Kyle Rittenhouse case makes me uncomfortable, largely because based on the video evidence I don't see how the actual violence that took place couldn't be considered self-defense. On the other hand, he was specifically and expressly going to the event to act as a vigilante. His intent in that regard is quite clear. And that action directly led to the deaths of three people. Is it really just if he gets off scot free?

I still think the real villains are the cops who chatted up an apparent minor carrying around a deadly weapon without questioning it. The fact that they welcomed his presence and the presence of others acting as vigilantes is troubling and should be considered negligent.

I understand that.  It has parallels to the Derek Chauvin case.  A lot of people were outraged at the verdict because they really liked cops.

I'm not uncomfortable with the likely outcome though.  I'm actually really glad that in situations of life and death our system of justice actually appeared to work like it should.


It’s like they sought out the most incompetent prosecutor possible lol

I don't know.  The lawyers in a trial have a job to do.  They've got to work with what they have.  If they have basically nothing then they end up doing some rather embarrassing things.

It's like the Derek Chauvin trial where the defense tried to make the case that George Floyd could have died from carbon monoxide poisoning from the cop car in an outside environment where no one can say if that car was even running at the time.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 28, 2021, 11:38:29 AM »
I'm choosing to believe that it was probably a dumb stunt by Steven Crowder.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 28, 2021, 10:42:57 AM »
I'm having a little trouble believing that's real. It sounds like something Tucker Carlson would make up.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 23, 2021, 09:17:34 PM »
Well. That list is bonkers. They seek parity funding and representation to anything they deem transphobic. Since transphobia was the norm yp until about ten years ago that's a lot of Trans TV shows.

I still genuinely wonder if most of these people have even seen this special. If the standard for what's considered harmful to trans people is this low then entertainers will most likely just never talk about them publicly. That sort of dehumanization seems to me like it would be harmful to that community.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Cancel culture
« on: October 21, 2021, 09:17:13 PM »
I've watched this special and I have no idea what the lunatics are on about.  I don't know how it could possibly be construed as transphobic.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 19, 2021, 08:30:52 PM »
I had to get the vaccine. The clock is ticking. I can feel the devil trying to grab my soul.

There's still time.  Quick!  Get some Ivermectin and a salt lick to alleviate the deadly symptoms of the vaccine!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 14, 2021, 05:44:15 PM »
This might change in the future but as it is now I'm rather impressed by the integrity of our election system.  I don't think there's ever been an election more scrutinized than 2020 and they've found exactly nothing.  Likewise 2020 is the only election in this country that I'm aware of where one side made a full court press to steal it and didn't even manage to change enough votes to make a difference, nowhere near it. 

Think about how extraordinary that is.  The most powerful man in the world made it his sole focus for 6 months to steal an election and he didn't even make a dent in it.

Regarding faith in future elections, with the way republicans talk it doesn't seem like an issue with faith in our elections.  It seems more like a desire to abandon democracy for autocracy because the numbers aren't in their favor.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: October 14, 2021, 04:59:07 PM »
That's one way of interpreting it. Another would be that trump is urging republican politicians to make it their priority to destroy the integrity of our election system.

It's a threat he's followed through with in Georgia. His interference likely handed democrats control of the senate.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 10, 2021, 05:15:00 AM »
Good lord.  Jimmy Dore may be the most loathsome person on Youtube.

Lauren Southern? Sargon of Akkad? And the insidious choice, Bret Weinstein?

Dore has something those others don't.  He's just repulsive on every level.  The sound of his voice, his ghoulish appearance.  I'm fairly certain he has an unpleasant stench about him too.  I imagine it's something oily and metallic. 

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 09, 2021, 11:18:38 PM »
Good lord.  Jimmy Dore may be the most loathsome person on Youtube.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: October 08, 2021, 09:58:36 AM »
Who wore it best?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 06, 2021, 04:59:25 PM »
Isomers?    What about tentacle creatures!

"Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines were examined under a microscope, which revealed a tentacled creature in each vial that “moves around, lifts itself up, and even seems to be self aware.”"

This is a Republican saying this and we know Republicans don't lie. They even have photographs of these tentacle creatures.

What does all this peer-reviewed science have to say about that?

I'm much more concerned about the presence of tachyons in the vaccine.  It seems obvious to me now that this is how the democrats stole the 2020 election.  Tachyon particles allowed a form of temporal shift vote counting where a portion of the vaccinated were able to use future votes for Joe Biden!

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 04, 2021, 12:05:31 AM »
I'll wear a mask when manufacturers state on the packaging that wearing the mask is an effective measure in prevention and transmission of the virus.

All of your BS, and make no mistake for it's a HUGE amount, is worthless.

Name one expert that says we can vaccinate our way out of a pandemic.

Otherwise, all of your provisions here in this forum are as useful as a braying jackass.

You don't get it. They would never print that on the package of a mask because they don't want you to know. You are a victim of the left wing's diabolical plot to convince conservatives that vaccines and masks don't work.

The electoral margins in the U.S are razor thin and we are now seeing higher casualties in 'red' states that reject mask mandates. The genius of the plan is that the conservatives don't even believe it's happening to them. In a system where a few thousand votes make a difference, ten thousand deaths across a few key states will turn the political fortunes.

Indeed.  But this bets the question is Tucker Carlson a useful idiot in our plot or is he secretly against conservatives?

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