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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: May 24, 2022, 07:36:26 AM »
Will the Huntergate subscribers care about this enough to look deeper?

https://www.businessinsider.com/kusner-mnuchin-raised-combined-3-half-billion-arab-monarchies-report-2022-5?utm_source=reddit.com

I wouldn't worry about it.  We have the top cop Merrick Garland on the case right now.  I'm sure by the time he finishes his 4 year long investigation that he'll write a strongly worded letter to Kusher and Mnuchin.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 19, 2022, 05:30:29 PM »
I don't see why this is so hard to figure out.



What about men?  Could tell them not to have sex too.
Semen is always encouraged to flow freely and abundantly. Shame we still don't have male birth control.

I saw an article talking about male birth control being tested. COMING SOONTM!

There's a form of male birth control, it's called the backdoor option.

If Tom Bishop really cared about babies then he'd be preaching to the congregation the value of sodomy.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: NATO Shenanigans
« on: May 13, 2022, 04:20:02 PM »
I can't help it.  I'm mourning Bruce Willis's decline in health.

Fine.  Serious stuff.  I think the US committed to a defense pact with Sweden and Finland to bridge the gap between application and approval.  Since the US is like 80% of NATO it's effectively like being in NATO if that news was correct.

But this is the peril in a treaty organization getting too big.  Eventually we get shitheads.  It might be time to create NATO 2.0 and not include countries like Hungary and Turkey.  Maybe a EU 2.0 while they're at it to kick those two countries out also.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: NATO Shenanigans
« on: May 13, 2022, 02:37:30 PM »
Sweden is well known for its terrorists.  There was even a documentary made about it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 11, 2022, 10:52:34 PM »
So therein lies the Premeditated murder as a charge and ensuing penalty - Murder 1, life in prison without parole or death penalty.
Back to the first part of my question, in States that, let's say, ban abortions altogether, would you advocate that all reported miscarriages be vetted by some authority to make sure they weren't induced, that they weren't murder?

It would be incredibly difficult to prove a miscarriage is intentional (the standard of evidence is likewise very high). Investigating every single one would be impossible, investigating a few suspicious ones would be warranted. It would work much the same way deaths do right now. Not all deaths receive the same amount of investigative vigor. Some are obviously accidental or anticipated and some are not. The primary reporting agent would probably be a woman's doctor who would be (in an ideal world) obligated to report wrongful termination of a pregnancy.

That's a tough one.  But we are talking about the lives of innocent children.  Letting this go would effectively nullify any attempt to outlaw abortion as the vast majority of abortions are done with a pill.

I think the only sensible thing to do would be to forcibly collect urine samples of all women of child bearing age to detect any possible abortifacients.  Perhaps a less heavy handed way would be to analyze the sewage for traces of abortifacients and use massive public surveillance to narrow down these murderers.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 10, 2022, 05:12:31 PM »
This thread was a particularly fun read for what pregnancy can do to your body that you don't often hear about.
Are there unofficial Jews?

EDIT: My niece almost died giving birth, while we are here. She was pretty much bleeding out. They manage to stabilise her, thankfully. She has had a second child and the birth was quite traumatic then but because of the first time they knew what to look out for more and it wasn't as bad as the first one. She said to me she's not having more children - she might not have wanted more anyway but she doesn't actually think our body would cope with another pregnancy.

Yeah Mrs. Crutonius says that every time also but then someone brings around their newborn...

The new rule at my house is you can come in but you have to leave your newborn outside lest my wife gets any ideas.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 10, 2022, 02:26:38 PM »
But when does it become human? 

Conception.


Why do you think this is the most reasonable point at which it becomes a human life?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 10, 2022, 02:05:59 AM »
I wouldn't say that's the most extreme position. The most extreme position would probably be the act of conception. But that seems to be up for revision by the Supreme Court as well.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 08, 2022, 03:52:10 PM »
Then why do 60% of adults think that abortion should be legal?  Apparently SCOTUS does not reflect the opinions of the majority.

That number actually seems pretty low for that question if it's supposed to support the leftists. The red states are pushing laws that make abortion legal in the earliest stages. That sounds like 40% of people want more restrictive laws than the reddest states, which is a surprising number to say the least.

Some red states are. Other red states are classifying it as homicide.

Out of curiosity where do you stand on it? Any exceptions or is it murder as soon as the sperm penetrates the egg?

My position is  that existing fetal homicide laws should apply to the mother as well. Existing state fetal homicide laws make termination of almost any stage of pregnancy illegal - https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx

In the 1700's and 1800's when abortion was widely illegal and taboo society was built around it. Sex leads to pregnancy, so men and women were taught to carefully select their partners. Ideally it was best to wait until marriage, but usage of early contraceptives were permissible to some degree. If you did get someone pregnant while dating you were expected to marry the woman and raise the child, not abort it. Abortion was not even considered in the event of a pregnancy. Therefore, don't date someone you wouldn't marry. It's pretty simple. It also prevents young adults from wasting their time with incompatible partners. They should only be having sex with someone they are willing to marry in the event of pregnancy.

I would prefer society to return to that type of existence. If people just increased their standards in partner selection again they wouldn't have to kill innocent life.

In regards to rape, only about 1% of abortions occur as a result of rape. This is hardly a factor for keeping mass abortion and allowing people to be so reckless with their lives.

So... IUDs?  Murder or not?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 08, 2022, 07:04:40 AM »
I prefer to refer to all humans  born or unborn as the predeceased.

Much less baggage that way.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 07, 2022, 11:55:59 PM »
Then why do 60% of adults think that abortion should be legal?  Apparently SCOTUS does not reflect the opinions of the majority.

That number actually seems pretty low for that question if it's supposed to support the leftists. The red states are pushing laws that make abortion legal in the earliest stages. That sounds like 40% of people want more restrictive laws than the reddest states, which is a surprising number to say the least.

Some red states are. Other red states are classifying it as homicide.

Out of curiosity where do you stand on it? Any exceptions or is it murder as soon as the sperm penetrates the egg?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 05:26:15 PM »
Alright.  That could work.  But if we're treating an abortion as seriously as we treat a murder then the next step would be collecting DNA evidence of the "victim".  And the justice system would naturally be curious if the SO matches this DNA.  In which case then "Hey good news, we've found your rapist and look out!  He's in the house with your now!"

Our justice system already has tens of thousands of queued rapekits that have yet to be properly tested. You'd just be piling "DNA evidence" into an already broken system.


So we have the resources to enforce a ban on abortion but not a ban on rapes.

I'm beginning to see why feminists call our society sexist.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 04:36:16 PM »
I don't think accusing your husband or boyfriend of raping you is as solid a plan to get away with abortion as you think it is.

Why does it have to be a husband or boyfriend? "Some guy in the bushes raped me, I never saw his face and it was dead at night, there's no possible way to identify him in any meaningful way." Boom, it's a rape abortion and you'll never prove a false police report in court with such a vague statement to go on. All a rape exception would do is result in a court system with thousands of equally vague reports backlogged and wasting precious justice system resources.

Alright.  That could work.  But if we're treating an abortion as seriously as we treat a murder then the next step would be collecting DNA evidence of the "victim".  And the justice system would naturally be curious if the SO matches this DNA.  In which case then "Hey good news, we've found your rapist and look out!  He's in the house with your now!"

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 03:02:48 PM »
I don't think accusing your husband or boyfriend of raping you is as solid a plan to get away with abortion as you think it is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 12:41:33 AM »
I bet that price is for the bare minimum of service as well. In and out of the hospital in 24-48 hrs, no private room, etc…

Sort of.  That price is if everything goes according to plan.  I've never had this go according to plan.  Kid #3 involved a C section and 30 days in the nicu.  That racked up a bill that went into 6 figures.  I'm insured but still...

That was standard "not according to plan".  No one was going to die.  I'm sure the babies that were in serious trouble, like needing heart surgery or something, would rack up a truly staggering hospital bill.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 03, 2022, 03:49:52 PM »
Yeah.  Clearly the racists haven't thought this one through.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: April 27, 2022, 04:52:06 PM »
No.  But I am going to look into rebadging it as a Buick Skylark or something.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Hey, Congrats Sean
« on: April 22, 2022, 04:52:46 PM »
I really hate the saying that 80% of life is just showing up but I guess Hannity is a good example of it.  Even if you're kind of dim witted, just keep showing up and good things will happen.  Sort of like Forrest Gump.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Translations of the Bible
« on: April 13, 2022, 04:57:09 PM »

Some people don't think that is what they were writing:

https://www.fayobserver.com/entertainment/20170316/ruler-of-this-world-god-or-satan

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Ruler of This World: God or Satan?

Many people are surprised by the evil in this world. Do you ever wonder, “If God is good or even exists, why is there so much pain and suffering? Why is it that bad things happen to me even when I work hard and try to be a good person?” I’ll tell you why. The Bible records that while God gave Adam authority over the world, Adam gave it over to Satan.

That’s right; Satan is the temporary ruler of this world:

“Satan, the ruler of this world, will be cast out.” (John 12:31)

“Jesus said, ‘The ruler of this world approaches. He has no power over me.’” (John 14:30)

“Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe the Gospel.” (2 Corinthians 4:4)

“We are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil spiritual rulers and authorities, and against mighty powers in this dark world.” (Ephesians 6:12)

“We know that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.” (1 John 5:19) “Who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.” (1 John 5:5)

God is using Satan’s rebellion to reveal the hearts of men and women. Those who put their faith in God’s salvation will be raised from death and live for eternity with him.

“Jesus gave his life for our sins, just as God our Father planned, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.” (Galatians 1:4)

“The world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever.” (1 John 2:16-17)

Why do I say that Satan is the temporary ruler of this world? Because the Bible tells us that Satan’s end has already been determined: “The devil was thrown into the fiery lake of burning sulfur, joining the beast and the false prophet. There they will be tormented day and night forever and ever. This lake of fire is the second death. And anyone whose name was not found recorded in the Book of Life was thrown into the lake of fire.” (Revelation 20:10-15)

Rev. Dr. J. Robert Kretzu is pastor of Hope Mills United Methodist Church

Perhaps the Bible is saying that there is a good God somewhere, but the God of this world isn't it. When God, or the 'Lord', is present and doing things in our world in some passages it's possible that it's not the good one.

Here's where all this confusion comes from.  Most Christians assume that the Bible makes sense, that it's cohesive, that while not written by a single author directly that a supreme being directed it to be written the way it is.

The truth is, and this is not controversial, the Bible is a collection of stories crammed together over thousands of years that were often completely unrelated.  If it seems like the character of God shifts wildly over the course of the Bible its usually because its written about several different gods.

Most Christians can't handle this so they come up with a lot of stupid nonsense trying to reconcile all the contradictions.

I sometimes think that atheists are more interested in the Bible because once you see it's not a great holy book you realize it's a fantastic historical document.  A lot of religious scholars are starting to see it this way.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: GOP are petulant crybabies
« on: April 09, 2022, 06:03:21 AM »
I have an additional hot take.  They're aware of it but they don't care.  Trying to lead the country sucks.  It's way easier to be the minority party and bittch and mon about the other party.

It's like the baseball episode of South Park.  Where they both hate the game but they can't tell their parents.  So they get amazing at being bad at it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Losing_Edge

A great episode.  Definitely worth wtching.

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