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A doctor putting their personal beliefs above the medical needs of a patient is not fulfilling their oath as a doctor. It’s simple.

It's not a personal belief that fetuses are living. It's a medical fact. The doctor took an oath to protect life. The doctor refuses to give abortion pills. Why is he wrong?

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If doctors can refuse service because of what they think is a chance at increased survability, then they can refuse service to provide abortion pills for increased survivability of what they think as a baby.

Please explain why you are not an utter hypocrite for thinking otherwise. You are picking and choosing which doctor can choose what services he wants to ethically provide.

Nice strawman. You brought up abortion, no one else.

The article you linked says that the bill is advocating for doctors to choose to provide service based on their conscience:

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But what about their conscience?

"Another way that conscience has been defined is that inner voice that someone uses to distinguish between right and wrong," Republican Florida House Rep. John Snyder said.

You say this is wrong. So you need to defend that.

Why shouldn't they be able to decline providing abortion pills if they can decline to provide heart transplants for the unvaccinated?

Why should doctors be forced to provide services to do something they think is unethical?

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If doctors can refuse service because of what they think is a chance at increased survability, then they can refuse service to provide abortion pills for increased survivability of what they think as a baby.

Please explain why you are not an utter hypocrite for thinking otherwise. You are picking and choosing which doctor can choose what services he wants to ethically provide.

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Anyway, what the fuck does this have to do with what I posted? Refusing transplants to unvaccinated people is normal since they have to take immunosuppressants and they want the organ to go to person who will survive.

So you want doctors to favor transplants based on what they think as increased organ recipient survivability, but you don't want them to favor what they think are babies for increased survivability.

How incredibly hypocritical and flawed.

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I guess Florida hadn’t filled up that dumb shaped hole in their heart:

https://www.wesh.com/article/florida-bill-doctors-decline-service/38890098?fbclid=IwAR2Ab9VgHtfyOuBIFbbN5c-cL2KqS4jemL2xcb5_5sIegw4-9BJfIsnqhJ8#

This is such an unbelievably stupid bill no matter your political leanings.

 ::)

Yeah, here's over 10,000 liberals cheering on a hospital for refusing a heart transplant for an unvaccinated man.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 05:06:37 AM »
lol @ actually arguing that a bridge can have no weight restrictions. Incorrect.

Yeah, poor communication from Joe there, telling us that we just need to remove weight restriction on bridges to solve our supply chain woes.

I would say that it's also pretty funny that the leader of the nation thinks we need to fix bridge capacity when reading reports of empty store shelves and food shortages, but really it's pretty horrific.

I find that it's more likely that Biden is fulfilling his promise he made here of "I've done dumb things and I'll do dumb things again"


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 04:04:57 AM »
So he thinks that a bridge can be upgraded to have no weight restrictions in the tweet I posted? Sounds pretty idiotic to me.

This what happens when you elect a senile old president who plagiarized coursework in law school, managing to graduate at the bottom of his class.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: January 25, 2022, 12:16:00 AM »
The idiot Joe Biden thinks that bridges shouldn't have weight restrictions. His idea to solve supply chain issues is to bypass the bridge weight restrictions put in place by the engineers who designed the bridge.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 24, 2022, 02:23:15 AM »
Yep. So what?

If you don't have anything to contribute please refrain from posting.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 23, 2022, 11:21:44 PM »

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: January 23, 2022, 09:43:45 PM »
Dr. Fauci says you may need to get a fourth jab soon.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 02:13:14 AM »
No... its not.
mental illness is a styigma.  If someone has say... Bipolar disorder, and you tell them "Its not ok that you have bipolar.  You should stop being bipolar" well... that's terrible advice.  But accepting that they have Bipolar and that it's ok they have it, and encouraging them to get help is also good.

"It's okay to be bi-polar... but also... it's not, get help."

I'm sure you are an excellent authority figure for children.

Indeed you will find that it’s beneficial to one’s mental health not to shame them for things out of their control. Once your algorithm progresses you will understand.

I actually didn't say anything about shaming them.

Dave could simply say: "You're bi-polar? I grew up with several mental conditions myself, probably worse than you. Psychotherapy was a big help for me. You should ask your parents."

No need to lie to them.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 23, 2022, 12:52:38 AM »
No... its not.
mental illness is a styigma.  If someone has say... Bipolar disorder, and you tell them "Its not ok that you have bipolar.  You should stop being bipolar" well... that's terrible advice.  But accepting that they have Bipolar and that it's ok they have it, and encouraging them to get help is also good.

"It's okay to be bi-polar... but also... it's not, get help."

I'm sure you are an excellent authority figure for children.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Britain's Pedo Prince
« on: January 22, 2022, 10:33:31 PM »
How not surprising that the prince likes teddy bears as well.

https://people.com/royals/prince-andrew-teddy-bear-collection-routine/


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 08:58:41 PM »
Not "You don't need to get help" but "Its ok to be sick if you're sick."

That's terrible advice for people who are sick.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 07:52:38 PM »
LGBT+ includes a wide range of behaviors and is simply not settled science. Schoolteachers are not qualified to tell children that being asexual is normal. It may be related to health conditions, lack of nutrition, experience, or poor environment.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies
« on: January 22, 2022, 07:31:19 PM »
The constitution doesn't say anything about this. It leaves education up to the states to decide, and this one did.

Sex Ed is already optional in most public schools. Parents can choose to opt out on a form to approve sex ed for their children and they won't be put into those courses. I don't see how this LGBT+ education is any different than Sex Ed.

I would prefer that school teachers not try to brainwash children into thinking what may be an arguable mental disorder for some people is normal. Obviously their goal is to normalize it, not just to inform and educate. If their goal was really education they would save it for later years. But no, it needs to be forced onto young children as well.

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Listen to yourself. If the shoe were on the other foot you would be calling out the questionable nature of the Republican president's son. Don't even lie.

At least be honest and tell us that you don't care, that he's on your side so it's okay, or however you really feel. That's infinitely better than lying to yourself and everyone else by pretending to have morals.

I’m not so stupid as to think that the corruption of Trump’s children should be blamed on him. Stop projecting your weird North Korean mentality on to me. Instead think about how in 6+ years how you have never found any decision Trump has made to be lacking and how that shows a distinct flaw in your critical faculty.

Yeah, I am sure if Trump's son was corruptly receiving millions of dollars from foreign countries while Trump was president, you would jump up and down and insist that Trump being president had nothing to do with it.

"Who cares who the 'big guy' is. If foreign countries want to give a president's son money they have that right!" - Rama Set assuredly

If Trump's son then transitioned his career to artist and was selling artwork for hundreds of thousands of dollars while Trump was president you also would have no problem with it. People just really want to give a new crack addict artist large amounts of money.  ::)

You are just blatantly lying now.

Nancy Pelosi made millions while in Congress and makes better returns on stock trades than Warren Buffet. I don't see lefties calling her corrupt. The criticism for that comes from the right, not the left. The left generally ignores it.

literal lol. it's genuinely adorable that you think this is true.

Here's an economist saying it - https://www.independent.org/aboutus/person_detail.asp?id=383

https://www.foxbusiness.com/kudlow/kudlow-nancy-pelosi-trading

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I'm extremely worried this evening over a 1% drop in the tech-heavy NASDAQ Index. Why this sudden concern? Because it may do great damage to Nancy Pelosi's almost perfect investment track record.

You may have read that one website has already nominated her as the 2021 Wall Street trader of the year. In fact, reading jacobinmag.com – which I'm told is a left-wing outfit – nonetheless, they have a fabulous story about Ms. Pelosi and her trading acumen.

The Gordon Gekko of the New York Stock Exchange. The oracle of Omaha is dead. Long live the Queen of Stocks.  According to reports, she and her husband Paul Pelosi have traded over $50 million in assets over the past year with annualized returns at 69% as of October, according to an estimate from the Nancy Pelosi portfolio tracker.

That's higher than Buffett, George Soros, Cathy Wood, and other star investors. Apparently, the Pelosi portfolio beat the S&P 500 by 4.9 percent in 2019 and a big 14.3 percent gain in 2020, according to an outfit called FinePrint. Ms. Pelosi is becoming a cult figure among stock investors.

I'll wait for you to find an economist who says otherwise.

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Thanks for demonstrating my point. Now you are suggesting that Hunter was doing corrupt things with foreign countries, receiving large sums of money, and that it had nothing to do with his father who was running policy on those countries as VP at the time. Completely disingenuous.

So you literally want Biden to be guilty because of his son’s actions. Fascinating.

Listen to yourself. If the shoe were on the other foot you would be calling out the questionable nature of the Republican president's son. Don't even lie.

At least be honest and tell us that you don't care, that he's on your side so it's okay, or however you really feel. That's infinitely better than lying to yourself and everyone else by pretending to have morals.

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