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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Question about the Ice Wall
« on: January 30, 2020, 10:59:27 AM »
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Because the implication here is that the coast isn't stopping explorers getting onto the land and exploring it. The 'ice wall' isn't a blocker and people have gone beyond it.
Nobody is arguing against that. Why are you stating obvious things that we've already claimed and acting as if they were somehow insightful?

We aren't acting as if they were somehow insightful. We are asking for proof that this wall goes around the entire flat earth. Showing a section that looks like a wall, and appears to be around 200 feet long, is not showing us that this goes around the entirety of the world. Can you show us an explorer that has traversed the entire length of this wall, and shown the total number of miles or kilometers traveled? Can you show us photos taken from a plane of it? The one that was shown on a forum, the wall appeared to be less than 100 feet high, and it kept curving away from them, when it should have been curving toward them. They even showed a piece of video where they looked back at it, and it was curving away from them, as it would if it were a continent, not a wall encircling the world. Surely someone has navigated this wall, as it would be the ultimate proof that you are correct, and would be relatively easy to do.

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I'm new to this forum, so I'm not sure if this is the right spot. In the Northern Hemisphere, I can understand how everyone could see the same stars if the stars are on the dome, or whatever your theory is on it. But the flat earth model doesn't work in the Southern Hemisphere. Can you explain to me how people at the southern tip of South America can see the same stars as those in Australia? They are on opposite sides of the map, but they both see the same stars, at the same time, moving in the same direction, which makes no sense.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: A simple question about sunsets.
« on: January 29, 2020, 02:41:01 PM »
Pete,
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Not really, that would only be a problem if you ignored EA.

An Electromagnetic Mass Accelerator is not a force that exists in our universe. It is basically a catapult used to launch objects into space. If you have proof that there is a natural force in the universe that somehow causes shadows or light, please point me to the scientific proof of it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: A simple question about sunsets.
« on: January 29, 2020, 02:24:37 PM »
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I will quote it here: "Please assume in these examples that the mountain is sitting on an empty plain."

Where in the known world would this phenomena exist?

Lots of places have a mountain with a pretty flat plain area around it like this:

https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/big-empty-land-with-beautiful-mountain-background-in-mongolia-gm955711228-260936156

https://depositphotos.com/199534116/stock-photo-empty-land-sunrise-top-mountain.html

https://www.istockphoto.com/photo/empty-landscape-desert-mountains-and-flat-land-of-death-valley-national-park-gm1004021894-271209736

There are many places on earth with a large hill or mountain with flat plains around them. I grew up in Oregon, and Central Oregon has many, many places like that.


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: I'm a RE'r and have some questions!
« on: January 29, 2020, 01:30:25 PM »
One thing that no one has ever explained to me is why. Why would not only the United States, but the entire world participate in this "lie" that the earth is round. Why would the world spend untold billions of dollars to keep people believing it is round. What do they gain? No govt does anything for free. People don't give govts money because they believe the world is round. There is literally nothing to be gained by keeping the truth of the "flat earth" from the populous. In fact, thousands of years ago, most societies believed the world was flat, and it didn't cause anyone stress in any way. So why would they suddenly start lying and saying it is round? They can't control us any more than they already do by a lie like that. Why in the world would they suddenly, all together start telling a lie on this scale. Every country, even ones who are fighting with each other suddenly chose to lie? Why? When countries who are competing with each other would tell a different story, just to get one over on the country they are competing with. I've never received an answer to this question.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Question about the Ice Wall
« on: January 29, 2020, 12:43:30 PM »
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We know how tall the Ice Wall is because we've seen it. The composition of Antarctica had been studied by RE'ers and FE'ers alike.

I'm sorry, but you have not seen any ice wall, as it doesn't exist. If someone had seen it, they would have taken pictures or video, and it would have swept the world within a day. I am a person who needs proof to believe a claim. Please show your video or pictures of this ice wall that you and several other people have seen. I have several questions that I like to ask flat earth believers, and I've never received an answer for any of them, I'm always told "we haven't figured that out yet.

I have to say that this was a pretty bold statement for you to make, when you can't back it up with proof.

I did look at the video you have up. It shows part of the coast of Antarctica, and the thing is, it is curving the wrong way to be the outer wall around the entire globe? planet? plane? Whatever it is you call the earth. This can be circumnavigated in a short period of time by plane, and several days by boat. In fact there is a yearly boat race circumnavigating the south pole every year. My mother has been to Antarctica, and stood upon it, and was able to hike a bit of it. She has pictures as proof. This video would have to be months long, if not over a year, in order to follow it around the outer edge as you all claim. All your video proves is that there is a continent at the southern hemisphere of our globe.

So, tell me why the seasons are different in the southern hemisphere. Why do they see different stars? Why do they get 24 hours of sunlight in the summer and almost no sun in the winter, when the rest of the earth doesn't have this phenomenon. What holds the sun, or spotlight, or whatever you call it up? How does it travel? Why are other planets that we can see spherical? What causes the moons phases if it is nothing but a light? Please show pics of this "translucent" light that you guys keep claiming exists. What causes eclipses? There are so many things you guys deny or have no answers for, yet are unable to disprove our known science. Usually you just say things like "I can't believe that is how it works", or "that's just stupid". Not being able to understand something doesn't make it wrong.

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