[Michael320]

Every question about the science of a flat earth seems to get answered.  And though I don't believe the answers are valid, I don't know enough about math and science to debate a FE'er on that level.  Instead, I trust the work of thousands and thousands of scientists, mathematicians, astronauts, and other professionals who work at jobs that require intimate knowledge of the shape of the earth.

In order for this conspiracy to be real, someone has to answer the question of how it's possible that all those people, from all different countries, with vastly differing politics and economic priorities, could all be kept in line. 

It's just not enough to pin it on the government or some collection of powerful people.  How could EVERY country that has put a satellite in orbit (and all the people involved) be forced to keep the secret?  How and why would ALL the people involved in space exploration, all over the world, be compelled to go along with this lie?

IF I give you a pass on the science (which is a huge pass), I still have not heard ONE reasonable explanation of how this could be pulled off.

[TomInAustin]

Every question about the science of a flat earth seems to get answered.  And though I don't believe the answers are valid, I don't know enough about math and science to debate a FE'er on that level.  Instead, I trust the work of thousands and thousands of scientists, mathematicians, astronauts, and other professionals who work at jobs that require intimate knowledge of the shape of the earth.

In order for this conspiracy to be real, someone has to answer the question of how it's possible that all those people, from all different countries, with vastly differing politics and economic priorities, could all be kept in line. 

It's just not enough to pin it on the government or some collection of powerful people.  How could EVERY country that has put a satellite in orbit (and all the people involved) be forced to keep the secret?  How and why would ALL the people involved in space exploration, all over the world, be compelled to go along with this lie?

IF I give you a pass on the science (which is a huge pass), I still have not heard ONE reasonable explanation of how this could be pulled off.

The answer most often given is something along the lines of the scientists don't know.   i didn't say it was a good answer.

[Michael320]

They would have to know.  If their job is part of what it takes to get a satellite into orbit, or if they're involved in some part of the International Space Station, or if they're involved with flight plans for international air traffic, or every government's air force, they MUST know whether or not the earth is round.

Also, if this is real, there would have to be a team of people in different countries in charge of enforcing the no-fly zone near the edge.  They're all kept in line? 

There would be images of the edge, that those in power have, that would have to be kept secret successfully somehow…

It's just NOT possible.

[J-Man]

Every question about the science of a flat earth seems to get answered.  And though I don't believe the answers are valid, I don't know enough about math and science to debate a FE'er on that level.  Instead, I trust the work of thousands and thousands of scientists, mathematicians, astronauts, and other professionals who work at jobs that require intimate knowledge of the shape of the earth.

In order for this conspiracy to be real, someone has to answer the question of how it's possible that all those people, from all different countries, with vastly differing politics and economic priorities, could all be kept in line. 

It's just not enough to pin it on the government or some collection of powerful people.  How could EVERY country that has put a satellite in orbit (and all the people involved) be forced to keep the secret?  How and why would ALL the people involved in space exploration, all over the world, be compelled to go along with this lie?

IF I give you a pass on the science (which is a huge pass), I still have not heard ONE reasonable explanation of how this could be pulled off.

Do you trust the 1.5 Billion Muslims, that a good portion of pray 5 times a day?

You believe in the majority rules right and in Allah?

It's just silly to get on the globe nonsense. Read Job 38:4 where my God asked Job “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? . . . Who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted with joy?”

Again that doesn't sound like some spinning ball, circling the sun as it circles the milkyway candy bar.

[J-Man]

They would have to know.  If their job is part of what it takes to get a satellite into orbit, or if they're involved in some part of the International Space Station, or if they're involved with flight plans for international air traffic, or every government's air force, they MUST know whether or not the earth is round.

Also, if this is real, there would have to be a team of people in different countries in charge of enforcing the no-fly zone near the edge.  They're all kept in line? 

There would be images of the edge, that those in power have, that would have to be kept secret successfully somehow…

It's just NOT possible.

Dude you make no sense. So you put some piece of tin foil on a so called satellite that is dissembled and reassembled charging again on the sly. You don't see the satellite go up, you see a Russian rocket go up then tip over in flight hitting the ocean. You never see some satellite jettisoned into orbit. It's Disneyland stuff. None of these people do. They go to work, sit in their box and watch porno. The ISS is BS and flying to the edge of the ice wall ain't easy. It would take hours of flying over the ocean with no land and no fueling stations. What pilot is going to be able to steal an aircraft to do that? ZERO

You go up in a plane and the horizon is flat as a pancake. The horizon always comes up to meet you. No one see curvature, it doesn't exist only in the CGI and fish eye lens.

Hubble pics are cool though huh

[J-Man]

BTW greatest accomplishment of mankind, well pyramids I can touch, is us landing on the moon and they lost the records?

Give me a break, people this stupid can't land on the moon let alone wipe the smirk off their face fooling you.

[J-Man]

Punchline, it is super easy to fool stupid people.

Round earth.....Ball thingy

#####Adding some picture links of satellite jettisons from nasa/jpl all fakery nonsense.

https://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/orbiter/msp98launch.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=satellite+jettisoned+from+rocket&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj2peiS9vDVAhXkJ8AKHXAMCA0QsAQINA&biw=1280&bih=611#imgrc=7jFJ_E-kaPiBkM:

The people on this site for the most part seem of average intelligence and for the life of me I just can't understand how they buy this Bogus stuff.

Sorry Junker....

[juner]

Punchline, it is super easy to fool stupid people.

Round earth.....Ball thingy

There is a modify (edit) button. No need to quadruple post.

[Michael320]

Even if the lowliest positioned people don't know that they're not working on real satellites, etc...  THERE ARE STILL THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE who must keep this secret.  WHY?  WHY?  WHY?

On the more obvious side:  If the sun was a spotlight we'd be able to see, as the sun moves further away from us, that the light is shining down and not all around.

[StinkyOne]

J-man, we live in the real world. You're clearly driven by religion, which is fine, but isn't really the realm of logical thought or open exchange of ideas. The Bible does not say the Earth is flat. I know a lot of devote people, but I certainly don't know anyone who thinks the world is flat. For you to think it is all a hoax is to set aside the brain the good Lord gave you. Yes, the whole world has been tricked, but you, you have all the answers. Invisible domes, a flat Earth and fake stars and whatever other nutty stuff you want to toss out there. All to what end?

Shall we start stoning people who work on Sundays??

[CriticalThinker]

Every question about the science of a flat earth seems to get answered.  And though I don't believe the answers are valid, I don't know enough about math and science to debate a FE'er on that level.  Instead, I trust the work of thousands and thousands of scientists, mathematicians, astronauts, and other professionals who work at jobs that require intimate knowledge of the shape of the earth.

In order for this conspiracy to be real, someone has to answer the question of how it's possible that all those people, from all different countries, with vastly differing politics and economic priorities, could all be kept in line. 

It's just not enough to pin it on the government or some collection of powerful people.  How could EVERY country that has put a satellite in orbit (and all the people involved) be forced to keep the secret?  How and why would ALL the people involved in space exploration, all over the world, be compelled to go along with this lie?

IF I give you a pass on the science (which is a huge pass), I still have not heard ONE reasonable explanation of how this could be pulled off.

Do you trust the 1.5 Billion Muslims, that a good portion of pray 5 times a day?

You believe in the majority rules right and in Allah?

It's just silly to get on the globe nonsense. Read Job 38:4 where my God asked Job “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? . . . Who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted with joy?”

Again that doesn't sound like some spinning ball, circling the sun as it circles the milkyway candy bar.

Interesting appeal to authority that you have there.  Could you please provide support that the holy book to which you are referring has never been edited from its original meaning or that the grammar of the quote you are specifically referencing doesn't have multiple meanings in its translation from Ancient Hebrew to English?

Thank you,

CriticalThinker

[J-Man]

Every question about the science of a flat earth seems to get answered.  And though I don't believe the answers are valid, I don't know enough about math and science to debate a FE'er on that level.  Instead, I trust the work of thousands and thousands of scientists, mathematicians, astronauts, and other professionals who work at jobs that require intimate knowledge of the shape of the earth.

In order for this conspiracy to be real, someone has to answer the question of how it's possible that all those people, from all different countries, with vastly differing politics and economic priorities, could all be kept in line. 

It's just not enough to pin it on the government or some collection of powerful people.  How could EVERY country that has put a satellite in orbit (and all the people involved) be forced to keep the secret?  How and why would ALL the people involved in space exploration, all over the world, be compelled to go along with this lie?

IF I give you a pass on the science (which is a huge pass), I still have not heard ONE reasonable explanation of how this could be pulled off.

Do you trust the 1.5 Billion Muslims, that a good portion of pray 5 times a day?

You believe in the majority rules right and in Allah?

It's just silly to get on the globe nonsense. Read Job 38:4 where my God asked Job “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? . . . Who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted with joy?”

Again that doesn't sound like some spinning ball, circling the sun as it circles the milkyway candy bar.

Interesting appeal to authority that you have there.  Could you please provide support that the holy book to which you are referring has never been edited from its original meaning or that the grammar of the quote you are specifically referencing doesn't have multiple meanings in its translation from Ancient Hebrew to English?

Thank you,

CriticalThinker

Same as it ever was.
Mr. Thinker you're questioning the word of your creator. If that stethoscope has anything to do with DR.ing, they sold out to big pharma. We believers never sold out. If you did 8 years of education you missed the part where human body is so complex and refined it is impossible to be anything but created by GOD> Common sense speaking.

Read a few snippys'

http://www.chick.com/information/bibleversions/preserve.asp

[Rounder]

Do you trust the 1.5 Billion Muslims, that a good portion of pray 5 times a day?
You believe in the majority rules right and in Allah?

What are you talking about?  How do Muslims enter into this?

you put some piece of tin foil on a so called satellite that is dissembled and reassembled charging again on the sly.

What does this mean?  Who do you imagine is taking satellites apart and putting them back together?  Where are they doing this?  Why are they doing it?

The ISS is BS

You can see the ISS yourself, nearly every night, sometimes more than once a night.  I don’t know where you live, but you seem to be a fan of the Bible so I did a search for ISS sightings over Jerusalem.  Lots of sightings in the next week, including a pair of sightings 93 minutes apart on Friday 9/1 and another pair on Sunday 9/3.  Do a search over your own city, go outside and look, and ask yourself what other phenomenon could explain the week-ahead predictability of the little white dot you see.

and flying to the edge of the ice wall ain't easy. It would take hours of flying over the ocean with no land and no fueling stations. What pilot is going to be able to steal an aircraft to do that? ZERO

Don't need a pilot to steal anything, Qantas flies routes that should have been able to see the edge by now.

BTW greatest accomplishment of mankind, well pyramids I can touch, is us landing on the moon and they lost the records?
Give me a break, people this stupid can't land on the moon let alone wipe the smirk off their face fooling you.

"Lost the records?"  What records do you think are lost?  I’ve seen the video footage, haven’t you?  People who participated are still alive and conducting interviews.

You never see some satellite jettisoned into orbit. It's Disneyland stuff.

Adding some picture links of satellite jettisons from nasa/jpl all fakery nonsense.

Those aren't pictures, those are artist impressions.  Nobody is claiming those are actual photos.  If you want real imagery you have to go find real imagery.  You might start by checking out every Space X flight video, you will see satellite jettisons on most (all?) of those.  For example, jump to the 23:08 mark in the most recent launch:

[3DGeek]

You might start by checking out every Space X flight video, you will see satellite jettisons on most (all?) of those.  For example, jump to the 23:08 mark in the most recent launch:

It must be very sad to be an FE'er.   These truly remarkable achievements - astounding videos - people like Elon Musk actually putting together the hardware to take mankind to Mars within our lifetimes...and the FE'ers have to content themselves with this tiny corner of the universe and a bunch of little dots swimming around aimlessly in the sky.

Very sad.

Even for the religious nuts - to confine the "Great works of God" to this tiny 20,000 mile circle - when the entire, limitless universe is the reality of creation.    I don't believe in that hogwash - but if I did, I couldn't believe that He stopped at such a tiny puddle of dirt.

Oh well - not my problem I guess.

[J-Man]

Space X Elon Musk

Please.....

Astronuts to Mars

I like how the tin foil used for hats, flaps in the video with fans blowing on it.

Musk has taxpayer money of $5 billion or more. Losses $13,000 a car. His car company is worth more than Ford? I drive Fords.

[CriticalThinker]

Same as it ever was.
Mr. Thinker you're questioning the word of your creator. If that stethoscope has anything to do with DR.ing, they sold out to big pharma. We believers never sold out. If you did 8 years of education you missed the part where human body is so complex and refined it is impossible to be anything but created by GOD> Common sense speaking.

Read a few snippys'

http://www.chick.com/information/bibleversions/preserve.asp

I believe that you may have misinterpreted my question. I was specifically asking if you knew for a fact that no translation errors had ever occurred since the initial writings took place. The book of Job was not written in English and even in the relatively brief history of the English language, meanings for words have changed.  During the early years of the Holy Roman Empire when Christianity became the official religion of Rome, most people did not know how to read. How can you be sure that figures of speech common to the translator were not substituted to help with comprehension in the new and mostly illiterate congregation?

I also see your half hearted attempt to discredit the worthiness of my question by accusing me of selling out to pharmaceutical companies. While I am indeed a doctor, I am not a physician and have not ever prescribed medication.

I would appreciate no attempts at character assassination as I have made no untoward gestures against your character.

Thank You,

CriticalThinker

[J-Man]

Thinker, your question was silly and stupid.

[CriticalThinker]

Thinker, your question was silly and stupid.

You sir a clearly a troll.

By all means continue to ignore the teachings of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  Continue to look down upon the Gentiles and Jews, cast stones at those you deem sinners and usurp the right of your God to hold final judgement upon the words and deeds of His flock.  I am sure you will be most justly rewarded for your efforts upon meeting St. Peter.

CriticalThinker

[J-Man]

Thinker, your question was silly and stupid.

You sir a clearly a troll.

By all means continue to ignore the teachings of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  Continue to look down upon the Gentiles and Jews, cast stones at those you deem sinners and usurp the right of your God to hold final judgement upon the words and deeds of His flock.  I am sure you will be most justly rewarded for your efforts upon meeting St. Peter.

CriticalThinker

You should see my Bridge, I bought it from a guy who sells globes.

The Good Dr. took a hypocritical oath. He not only feeds the trolls, he longs for stimulating discussion with them. It's like taking the meds you prescribe, you get all dizzy and careless. Patients stop coming, pharma stops paying, the house forecloses, the benz gets repo'd, no more golf 3 days a week. You begin to imagine you're spinning on a ball, hurling though space and time toward the cosmos. Breathe deep, it's only a dream sequence.

[CriticalThinker]

Thinker, your question was silly and stupid.

You sir a clearly a troll.

By all means continue to ignore the teachings of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  Continue to look down upon the Gentiles and Jews, cast stones at those you deem sinners and usurp the right of your God to hold final judgement upon the words and deeds of His flock.  I am sure you will be most justly rewarded for your efforts upon meeting St. Peter.

CriticalThinker

You should see my Bridge, I bought it from a guy who sells globes.

Based on your assumption that globes are the result of the shoddy workmanship of unbelievers, I would have thought that you would buy your bridge from a faithful carpenter instead.  I do hope that your bridge doesn't collapse.  It would be a shame for you to end up homeless.  Your manners would likely make you unwelcome in most places.  Finding another Troll to share a bridge with may be risky.  If rumors are to be believed, Trolls eat their own during times of low feeding.

Have a blessed day.

CriticalThinker