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Explaining something cohesively is the thing you don't have to do when something is obvious. Your brain is obviously at war with your own senses. The photo doesn't look real. No matter how many reasons you can come up with for why it doesn't, but still might be. If you choose to accept it that's your choice, but it just goes to show the type of low quality shit you'll accept as long as it's from your favorite space bureaucracy.
Well to everyone but you this is not a obvious fake. We know the changed the contrast to make the picture clearer and that they added the color the earth to make it look pretty but it isn't like they didn't also offer up the unedited version of the picture for you too look at too. In the original the things you are having issues with are not there.

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1. The picture is taken from an old cell phone digital camera which obviously uses poor quality digital rendering software.
2. See above. Digital cameras must digitally render images so this is expected with homie's decrepit Obamaphone and it's low-quality image rendering. Also, sunlight has the same intensity as expected.
3. This is a fault of the camera software. Not ever picture can come out looking perfect you know.
4. You don't live in this area and have no idea what the ground looks like. It is possible for leaves and branches to be placed in the ground - homie might have stuck them in there like a poor man's lawn flamingo to give the scene a certain je ne sais quoi
5. No, clearly he had hopped in the air the moment the picture was taken, as a goof.
6. Homie has a cheap sub-megapixel cell camera. Obamaphones aren't your iPhone 6S you know.
I see what you are trying to do but the two do not equate.

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I don't see the issue, it just looks like dunes to me. Which would make sense as it is a layer of dust. Also, as someone near sighted I can attest to when there is a lot of bright, direct sunlight out I can see things much more clearly even with my corrective lenses on. Since it is unimpeded sunlight there is just a sharper contrast on very Hi-Res photo.

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I see that some of NASA trolls saying sometimes the around of the Antarctica has about 60.000 kms.

This test shows that is the earth is "globe" or not. But it is not a Conclusive evidence about the earth is flat or not because maybe it is possible there is another shape except globe.


Well good, since it is already known that M1 is < M2. And you are correct it isn't so much a globe as it is a oblate spheroid.

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It is hard to use the compass on Antarctica, because

The power affected the compass bar is so small.

F = K.Q1.Q2 / (R^2).  If R>> then the force is at minimum.
In an earlier post (in Posted by: rabinoz « on: May 02, 2016, 02:21:34 AM ») I showed the location of the South Magnetic Pole at 64.26°S and 136.59°E. That is south of Adelaide in Australia and a bit north of the Antarctic Circle.

A compass (with correct weighting) can be used over most of Antarctica. The references I gave are the organisation that actually works there!
They know a lot more about this than you and I!

don't more talking and do the experiment I suggested. send me the results. do a good job.  :)
We can't do you experiment because compasses are already properly WEIGHTED to COMPENSATE for the tilt so there is no experiment to do.

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sydney and South America are where is there. We FEs usually control ourselves the knowledge to see actually whats happened. I'm drawing a world map myself and yet did'nt come to Australia and south America. So i don't tell something matter that i haven't no idea.
Then by all means, tell us about all the flights you have taken between Taiwan and Shangai. You must have taken many to have such "extensive" knowledge of the subject!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Great NASA Conspiracy
« on: May 02, 2016, 11:50:22 PM »
I wouldn't quite call it a leak if the only place that information gets disseminated to is an obscure website that no one really visits, and of those that do, most don't take seriously.
I have no idea what website you're referring to. All you have to do is watch the videos put out by NASA and other space agencies and you can see for yourself the astronauts momentum when moving about is practically non-existent. You just have to look at it with your own eyes and use your brain.

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Also, you do realize that weightlessness means just that right?
Do you realize that weghtlessness is not masslessness? Do you even know what mass and momentum are? I guess you can be counted among the dimwitted hoi poilloi with no grasp of the concept of inertia.
Or you are just grasping at straws. If I can move my body without much effort here, then why would it suddenly become harder if weight was removed from the equation?

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You appear to have misunderstood something I said. Let me try to rephrase to make sure we're discussing the same subject.

İntikam says the following:
"These flight paths show that something strange is going on - likely to do with the shape of the Earth"

That is a purely speculative statement.

Your view on that statement is:
"This is a purely speculative statement. It is meaningless."

rabinoz then says the following:
"These flight paths have NOTHING to do with TFES!"

That, too, is purely a speculative statement.

I respond to it saying:
"That is a speculative statement. It is meaningless."

Yet you jump to rabinoz's defence.

You therefore defend speculative, meaningless statements when they suit you, but you attack them when they go against you. This is a double standard, and a clear sign of you having a vested interest in either defending rabinoz or attacking İntikam. My question is: which of the two is it, and what benefits do you receive from it?
Still failing to you see your issue. It isn't speculation that it has nothing to do with The Flat Earth Society unless you are saying that it somehow has something to do with planning airlines flight paths. It might having something to with Flat Earth Theory but that still has yet to be shown. Until then it has nothing to do with me, you, rab, or this forum.

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No I'm agreeing with him.
That's an interesting double standard. Pure unsubstantiated speculation on rabinoz's part is ok, but it's not ok when İntikam does it. The only possible explanation for such a distortion of intellectual integrity would be that you're somehow benefiting from supporting one, but not the other. Care to state your interests?
I actually fail to see why you are having an issues with this. The flight times and routes on their own mean nothing without some context. If we knew from the airlines themselves why they do it then we can could investigate and make sure they are telling the truth. Right now all inkitkam is doing is hand waving and so we offered possible answers to his dilemma that are very probable causes that don't even have to involve the shape of the planet. Since we do not have readily available information on why they do so then it is a moot point. No one is saying it is ok or not ok, just that EVERYTHING about this is pure speculation until he gets the airlines explanation. And since we are not the ones trying to prove something, none of us are going to go out of our way to find out and that is on him.

Now if he comes back with a response from them then I would have no issue with researching it to see if what they say lines up with reality.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Great NASA Conspiracy
« on: May 02, 2016, 07:21:48 PM »
One thing you seem to be completely unaware of is the compartmentalized nature of information, and how certain secrets are treated as the "holy of holies" which only a select few will ever be allowed to see the workings of.
All that would mean is that bits and pieces would have leaked out until enough was gathered that you could see the whole picture. We know from history that it is just impossible for something that big to remain completely secret.
But that is the point - bits and pieces have "leaked out", or rather bits and pieces are noticebly fraudulent.

If you watch the majority of the "onboard the ISS" videos with a critical eye, you'll notice there is something severely wrong with the way the astronauts move and change direction as though inertia was not a factor in their movement. Even in free-fall weightlessness a 80kg person still has 80kg of mass. Moving, turning, slowing, stopping would all take considerable exertion, yet the astronauts do it with without effort. Makes no sense in the context of a truly weightless environment, but makes lots of sense if they are simply in a green-screen room suspended by harnesses with most of the motion occuring with the camera and post-production editing instead of the (actor) actually reorienting himself.

The public at large unfortunately does not have an intuitive grasp of momentum and how it works, so feeble special effects is all it takes to fool them. Most of the time they don't even bother to use the simulated weightlessness of a "vomit comet". Composite video is far easier and has the added bonus of being able to have long sequences without edits, whereas the vomit comets only get around 30 seconds or so of time for weightless acrobatics.
I wouldn't quite call it a leak if the only place that information gets disseminated to is an obscure website that no one really visits, and of those that do, most don't take seriously. I'm talking we would have something in larger circles with a clear whistleblowers and some documented evidence. Snowden is the most common name known about our spying issues here but he was far from the first NSA whistleblower.

Also, you do realize that weightlessness means just that right? It would take as much effort to move there as it does for you move a feather here so it looks like fundamental understanding is flawed so you see issues where none exist. If anything, if they were faking it I would expect to see more force needed, like say, if you were pushing through water and not in space. With no one being in any kind of scuba gear then I would wonder how they would only appearing to be weightless for so long. Video editing can do a lot for sure, but it can only do so much.

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Because until we hear from the airlines themselves why they do it, (whether that explanation is legitimate or complete BS), then anything about these routes is pure speculation. Until we hear the reasoning form the airlines themselves there is no real way to debate why they do it.
It sounds like you agree with me. rabinoz's horrendously formatted statement about how this "has nothing to do with me, you or TFES" is bogus.
No I'm agreeing with him. Until this is taken up with the airlines themselves this has nothing to do with anyone but intikam and the airlines. We have a system to these things in our country. You cannot prosecute someone without giving them the opportunity to confront their accuser.

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Why don't you ask the airlines WHY they fly those routes, because it has nothing to do with me, you or TFES!
How do you know this for a fact?
Because until we hear from the airlines themselves why they do it, (whether that explanation is legitimate or complete BS), then anything about these routes is pure speculation. Until we hear the reasoning form the airlines themselves there is no real way to debate why they do it.

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Even better, after you ask and they give the answer post it here and then we can have a real debate.

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Today most of the pilots flown with the best fliying ever because most of them learned the wrong!

Yesterday the flown distances was about 900-1000 kms but with about same route today everybody flying with 811-880 kms. What is that? This is an excellent performance. Congratulations to all the Chinese  pilots get us out of here who read .

http://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CES5007/history/20160502/0415Z/ZSPD/RCTP

This pilot flown with the shortest route between Shangai and Taipei. Look all of the planes flyings. There is no fly about this flying as 811 kms. It's like impossible but this pylot got it. Congratilations!



Unbelievable!

The pilots are still drawing S when the opposite route from Taipei to Shangai and flying about 1.000 kms. I think we need to work to opposite route now.  :D

http://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/EVA712/history/20160502/0210Z/RCTP/ZSPD drawing S
http://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CAL501/history/20160502/0105Z/RCTP/ZSPD
http://tr.flightaware.com/live/flight/CES5006/history/20160501/1040Z/RCTP/ZSPD

Cmon pilots you can do it better.

No, the PILOTS cannot do better, they fly the routes they told to fly!

You say "The pilots are still drawing S when the opposite route from Taipei to Shangai and flying about 1.000 kms." Why ask US?

We gave you reasons why it might be. The most likely reason is there is a great deal of political tension between the PRC (mainland communist China) and the ROC (the Republic of China) and the airlins simple have to fly the routes dictated largely by PRC.

But, that is simply a matter between the airlines and the governments concerned. Nothing to do with us, the maps or the flat/globe earth,
So please just forget the whole issue - it proves nothing!

Are all of the political tensions working on when the planes going from Taipei to Shangai and causes to doing an S and don't working on Shangai to Taipei?

Good try but as you know that your tries never work on me. "the person you have called cannot be reached at the moment, please try another lie later. "
I've tried to be civil, but you are just strait up retarded. I don't even think you grasp the meaning of what he is saying. I don't even think you understand that planes basically fly themselves at this point and pilots are babysitters on these commercial flights. If a government says they don't want you flying in this specific area then they are going to go around it. For all we know that it where China is building one of their island bases and doesn't want the public flying over it. Even then, no matter what the cause is, it doesn't prove anything in this case. Not for Sphere Earth and not for a Flat Earth. It is such a short distance you are working with this time it is like saying because I took the 3 block route to the gas station instead of the 2 block route that the Earth must be flat.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Some perspective on perspective
« on: May 01, 2016, 11:26:38 PM »
The Greek model does not say they actually touch.  That is why I asked you to show us where it says they actually touch.  The important part is appearing to touch and actually touching.

If one looks at the scene, they do touch. It's a factual statement. "Appear" is implied.

According to the mathematical model of the Ancient Greeks, they should never touch.
Are you down with your Orwellian double-speak yet?

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Also, are these direct flights? This is a commercial airline trying to make money, I'm sure the roundabout routes are to make stops at other airports along the way. Pretty sure there isn't anyone getting on in the middle of a mountain range...

Yes, these are direct flights, not multi-hop routes.  And we have given the reasons and other reasons for the longer-than-minimum flight paths, it's just that İntikam does not accept those reasons.
Safety seems like the easiest to grasp, don't want to have an accident and people eating each other to survive again because they are crashed in a mountain somewhere.

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Also, are these direct flights? This is a commercial airline trying to make money, I'm sure the roundabout routes are to make stops at other airports along the way. Pretty sure there isn't anyone getting on in the middle of a mountain range...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Great NASA Conspiracy
« on: May 01, 2016, 06:57:29 PM »
We know how acrobats and magicians do what they do
"The Turk" fooled people for over a hundred years. The Fatima illusion (aka "miracle of the sun") also continues to beguile people. As do space agency rocket launches, whose setup is not unlike Copperfield's vanishing of the Statue of Liberty.

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What no one has explained is how a conspiracy with the size and scope of the alleged NASA conspiracy could plausibly be carried out. The Apollo program began over 50 years ago, and tens of thousands of people have been connected with NASA in one way or another as employees, contractors, family members of the above, etc.
Do you think they give all information to all people along with a pamphlet to take home to the fam? Does the guy working the popcorn stand in the theater also know how all the performing magician's tricks are done?

One thing you seem to be completely unaware of is the compartmentalized nature of information, and how certain secrets are treated as the "holy of holies" which only a select few will ever be allowed to see the workings of.
All that would mean is that bits and pieces would have leaked out until enough was gathered that you could see the whole picture. We know from history that it is just impossible for something that big to remain completely secret.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Great NASA Conspiracy
« on: May 01, 2016, 05:50:11 PM »
How are they "secretly running the entirety of civilization"?

Look at Setec's post again. He claims a conspiracy across all world governments (and Youtubers).

You mean this? "But back to NASA and the rest of the space agencies (that we commoners are meant to believe are different entities, just as we are meant to believe our governments are controlled by different entities... it's all part of maintaining a divide-and-conquer Hegelian dialectic) - they reveal themselves as frauds in their hoaxy astronaut videos all the time."

I don't see an issue with that statmente. Check out the Chinese space walk:


If you know anything about the Chinese government it is not at all surprising they would fake this to make themselves look good. And just because one crooked and dishonest government made a fake space video doesn't mean all of them do. China just sucks and wanted to play with the big boys.

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