Re: The Queen
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2022, 02:13:39 PM »
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2022, 03:14:31 AM »
At the Queen's funeral Joe Biden was made to sit towards the back.


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Re: The Queen
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2022, 03:55:00 AM »
oh man. How embarassing. At the social event of the season too. where was Trump sitting?
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2022, 03:56:05 AM »
oh man. How embarassing. At the social event of the season too. where was Trump sitting?

No former president was invited. This is also irrelevant to the fact that Joe Biden was made to sit near the back.
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2022, 03:58:47 AM »
oh man. How embarassing. At the social event of the season too. where was Trump sitting?

No former president was invited.

I guess Trump is less important than people made to sit at the back.

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This is also irrelevant to the fact that Joe Biden was made to sit near the back.

Yeah. Man. I wonder how he is doing after this great tragedy. Not being able to peacock at a funeral must be so very, very trying. I hope he lives through the night.
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2022, 04:10:57 AM »
It was a congregation of over 500 world leaders. Trump is obviously a former, and not a current, president.

This is embarassing for Joe Biden, though, to be made to sit towards the back in a room of world leaders. His being put in the back has nothing to do with Trump, only Joe Biden.

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« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2022, 04:32:46 AM »
It was a congregation of over 500 world leaders. Trump is obviously a former, and not a current, president.

Not according to Trump lol

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This is embarassing for Joe Biden, though, to be made to sit towards the back in a room of world leaders. His being put in the back has nothing to do with Trump, only Joe Biden.

Are you having trouble reading?  I’ve already agreed that this is a monumental tragedy and we should send thoughts and prayers to Joe.
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« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2022, 05:43:47 AM »
Tom is right. Biden should have just demanded a front row seat. It's important for the president to be able to show off how important they are at all times.
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2022, 05:51:46 AM »
This is very telling about Trump.
He clearly thinks, as he does about all things, that a funeral should be all be about himself and his own position.

Biden was in a section for world leaders, the front was for other royals and other people who knew the Queen more personally.

One could twist facts in another direction, Biden was allowed to use The Beast to get there, most other world leaders had to get on a bus.

But the day wasn’t about Biden, or Trump. How wearying and predictable that Trump has to try and hijack the day to score points. Narcissists gotta narcissist…
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2022, 08:30:39 AM »
At the Queen's funeral Joe Biden was made to sit towards the back

...with the front occupied by those related to the Queen, and with close connections to the Queen. As is standard practice for a funeral over here. Cannot imagine it being any different in the US.


No former president was invited. This is also irrelevant to the fact that Joe Biden was made to sit near the back.

That's great. So you agree Trump is a former President. Not the current President. He lost the 2020 election.

Yes, that's what happens when you visit someone else's country, at their invitation. You go where they tell you to go. You don't get to make your own rules, and decide where you sit. You're an invited guest.

This is embarassing for Joe Biden, though, to be made to sit towards the back in a room of world leaders. His being put in the back has nothing to do with Trump, only Joe Biden.

Are you REALLY trying to equate being placed behind the Queen's own family and friends, at her funeral, as being some form of "pecking order" slight or insult toward Biden, something which you can use to paint him as inferior to other world leaders?

It wasn't a "room" in the sense of a conference room or meeting space. It's an abbey.

Do you think this would be appropriate behaviour at a funeral ....?

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Re: The Queen
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2022, 11:17:14 AM »
I was mocking it because it makes me think that England is a land besot with wizards and knights who say "ni" and all manner of arthurian legend.
How dare you!
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The Lord Chamberlain kept tradition by breaking his wand of office on Queen Elizabeth's coffin during the committal service at St George's Chapel in Windsor on Monday.

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Re: The Queen
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2022, 12:28:04 PM »
This is embarassing for Joe Biden, though, to be made to sit towards the back in a room of world leaders.
They back was for world leaders.  The front rows of that section would be reserved for Commonwealth of Nations members.  As is usual in these tings, the very fornt rows were for closer relations.  Family, friends, royals, etc. of which there are many.  I'm sure Joe Biden understood all this.  It's obvious you don't, just like a great many things.
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« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2022, 05:58:40 PM »
As is usual in these tings, the very fornt rows were for closer relations.  Family, friends, royals, etc. of which there are many.

So Biden was in the back because he didn't have a good relationship with the Queen and he deserved to be in the back. That was the premise of the post you are trying to argue against.

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Re: The Queen
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2022, 06:03:14 PM »
As is usual in these tings, the very fornt rows were for closer relations.  Family, friends, royals, etc. of which there are many.

So Biden was in the back because he didn't have a good relationship with the Queen and he deserved to be in the back. That was the premise of the post you are trying to argue against.

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Re: The Queen
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2022, 06:05:28 PM »
being put in the back has nothing to do with Trump, only Joe Biden.

... but you introduced the topic with Trump's post bemoaning the fact, so ... it's suddenly nothing to do with Trump, because ... you say so?
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Re: The Queen
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2022, 06:14:03 PM »
So Biden was in the back because he didn't have a good relationship with the Queen and he deserved to be in the back. That was the premise of the post you are trying to argue against.

No, he was in the back because he is not in any of the following categories; family and close personal friends of the Queen; UK and Commonwealth heads of state and dignitaries.

It was a funeral, not a political assembly. You wouldn't even have mentioned it had Trump not posted about it. 
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« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2022, 07:37:39 PM »
First Lady Jill Biden was also seated directly next to Ignazio Cassis, the president of Switzerland.

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« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2022, 09:15:03 PM »
First Lady Jill Biden was also seated directly next to Ignazio Cassis, the president of Switzerland.
Another injustice that never would have happened under a Trump presidency! The disrespect is now being visited upon our key allies?! It's unconscionable.

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Re: The Queen
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2022, 10:12:55 PM »
If Trump were still president then Queen Elizabeth would still be alive.

There.  I said it.

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Re: The Queen
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2022, 10:36:40 PM »
If Trump were president, he wouldn't just get front row seats. He'd be sitting in the coffin. That, my friends, is the Art of the Deal.
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