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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New Report on WTC 7
« Last post by mahogany on February 23, 2024, 01:08:04 AM »
I am pointing out you chose to label the NIST computer modeling as valid, for the benefit of the readership here. That is a lie, as the NIST did not release their data sets to validate the model.

You know, the thing that scientists in pursuit of the truth are required to do.

So, you lied when you labeled the NIST computer modeling as valid.

Case closed.


You seem to continue to trip over yourself.

Had you bothered to carefully read the reply's posted within your own OP thread, you would know that I did not label the NIST report as Valid.

What you are referring to is a quote posting snippet (amongst many) from Tom that came from the NIST report. Tom says "Also, this is funny"...and then attaches a snippet portion of the NIST report which states "These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. THESE VALIDATED COMPUTER MODELS produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred."

All I did was reply with "Nothing really news-breaking or earth shattering Tom" and attached back the same quotes from the NIST. I wouldn't go so far as to call Tom a liar though.
Nothing earth shattering when the "validated computer models," do not reflect what was witnessed.

You are joking, right?

Or just lying.

Perhaps when the NIST said "these validated computer models" the validations they were referring to could have been from "the observations that confirmed what actually occurred" in their report. As I mentioned earlier, I did not do the computer modelling at the NIST and so I suggest that you reach out to them to get clarity on what they meant by "validated computer models."

I would also suggest that you do your own research and apply critical thought vs. uploading conspiracy theory video feeds and believing everything they say. You know, the thing that scientists do in pursuit of the truth that they are required to do.
I uploaded a video of an interview with Dr. Hulsey.

You have no critique of his model, just more of the same attack-the-messenger bullshit the rest of the liars have to offer in response.

Pathetic crap.

Dr. Hulsey's model does reflect what was seen that day.

And you reflect what was seen afterward by all the other infantile AI chatbots that were soon trotted out immediately after 9/11. You know, labeling people who were questioning the events as "truthers." Imagine, attempting to turn the word "truth," into an insult. Czar Bushy the II was a real slick one, uh...


You've got to stop watching video feeds that are steeped with conspiracy theory content. I believe it's turned you paranoid and has perhaps taken away your ability to apply good rationale critical thought.
"Conspiracy theory content" has nothing to do with it, yet, rather hypocritically, you choose to side with the CONSPIRACY THEORY (and that is exactly what it is, for the mainstream media and all government officials that day plainly stated the Arabs...CONSPIRED) that somehow, someway, Arabs with little to no flight training, were able to commandeer four US domestic airliners, armed with nothing more than boxcutters, and manage to achieve what has never before happened in all of human history; that is, manage to successfully bring down three buildings in a controlled demolition in New York, NY, punch a near perfect hole in the Pentagon through to the inner ring with an aluminum framed jet, and nose dive another into a field in PA, leaving hardly any scarred area on the ground.

Sorry, you should take your own advice and stop peddling clear, utter tripe on these boards.

I watched the video and provided a list of my observations with some critical thought questions as well; you kind of ignored it and continue to shout "liar."

My observation of you is that it seems like you watch said conspiracy video content and then kind of repeat what the people in the video are saying. For example -- in the Jimmy Dore video you uploaded, he says stuff about labelling people who were questioning events as "truthers". You watched his video and are simply repeating exactly what he said.

My other observation of you is that you set a very low bar or low standard of evidence for anything you believe in and set an impossibly high bar of evidence for anything that doesn't align to your world view. For example, in a previous thread you will say things like (paraphrasing): whenever I have looked around / wherever I have looked around the earth looks flat to me, therefore I conclude it must be flat. You say this as a declaration and then kind of close the books. But then, your expectation from "the other side" is impossibly high to such a degree that you resort to calling people liars if, for example, they forget to add units of measure to a sentence.           
You offered absolutely nothing regarding the models presented by Dr. Hulsey, because you have nothing to counter what they demonstrate. The official story regarding the collapse of WTC - 7 on 9/11 is bullshit, plain, pure, and simple. And you and the rest of the conspiracy theorists need to stop pushing your unfounded conspiracy theories. They are lies and when you push them, that makes you a liar.

I repeated what Jimmy Dore said because it is true. The ones pushing the "official story," which is in reality, "a conspiracy theory," are the ones who wanted to mock the people questioning those events as "truthers." Turning a quest for truth about that day into some sort of insult.

Ain't gonna happen here.

I cannot help it if you are unable to post coherent sentences here on the forum. If you do not enjoy having that inability pointed out, perhaps you need to find another sandbox.



If you believe WTC 7 was an inside demolition job, please provide the following so that we can have a good debate around it. These are my initial questions:

- based on your own research, what specific floors and what specific beams or support points were the pyrotechnic explosives placed?
- from the above question, what were the total number of pyrotechnic explosions placed and triggered?
- approximately how much pyrotechnic material (in pounds) was placed at each placement location?
- when do you believe all of these pyrotechnic explosives were placed and how long do you think it would have taken to place all of them?
- why didn't the "government" plant or place the pyrotechnic explosives so that the building fell in a more sideways manner. If they wanted to hide what they were doing, why wouldn't they have done so?
           
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Rushy on February 22, 2024, 08:09:31 PM »
I can't believe I missed out on the chance to own a pair of golden Trump sneakers! I hope he releases more, I'd gladly pay $1000 for a pair.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New Report on WTC 7
« Last post by Tom Bishop on February 22, 2024, 02:49:31 PM »
Odd how the WTC 7 building was seen to go into free fall - https://ic911.org/journal/articles/the-instantaneous-free-fall-of-world-trade-center-building-7-and-nists-attempt-to-hide-it/

All of these critiques are critiquing NIST, including the segment on the Jimmy Dore show. Referring to the NIST analysis again and again does nothing to contradict the analysis and critiques of NIST that are given.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New Report on WTC 7
« Last post by Action80 on February 22, 2024, 01:46:57 PM »
I am pointing out you chose to label the NIST computer modeling as valid, for the benefit of the readership here. That is a lie, as the NIST did not release their data sets to validate the model.

You know, the thing that scientists in pursuit of the truth are required to do.

So, you lied when you labeled the NIST computer modeling as valid.

Case closed.


You seem to continue to trip over yourself.

Had you bothered to carefully read the reply's posted within your own OP thread, you would know that I did not label the NIST report as Valid.

What you are referring to is a quote posting snippet (amongst many) from Tom that came from the NIST report. Tom says "Also, this is funny"...and then attaches a snippet portion of the NIST report which states "These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. THESE VALIDATED COMPUTER MODELS produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred."

All I did was reply with "Nothing really news-breaking or earth shattering Tom" and attached back the same quotes from the NIST. I wouldn't go so far as to call Tom a liar though.
Nothing earth shattering when the "validated computer models," do not reflect what was witnessed.

You are joking, right?

Or just lying.

Perhaps when the NIST said "these validated computer models" the validations they were referring to could have been from "the observations that confirmed what actually occurred" in their report. As I mentioned earlier, I did not do the computer modelling at the NIST and so I suggest that you reach out to them to get clarity on what they meant by "validated computer models."

I would also suggest that you do your own research and apply critical thought vs. uploading conspiracy theory video feeds and believing everything they say. You know, the thing that scientists do in pursuit of the truth that they are required to do.
I uploaded a video of an interview with Dr. Hulsey.

You have no critique of his model, just more of the same attack-the-messenger bullshit the rest of the liars have to offer in response.

Pathetic crap.

Dr. Hulsey's model does reflect what was seen that day.

And you reflect what was seen afterward by all the other infantile AI chatbots that were soon trotted out immediately after 9/11. You know, labeling people who were questioning the events as "truthers." Imagine, attempting to turn the word "truth," into an insult. Czar Bushy the II was a real slick one, uh...


You've got to stop watching video feeds that are steeped with conspiracy theory content. I believe it's turned you paranoid and has perhaps taken away your ability to apply good rationale critical thought.
"Conspiracy theory content" has nothing to do with it, yet, rather hypocritically, you choose to side with the CONSPIRACY THEORY (and that is exactly what it is, for the mainstream media and all government officials that day plainly stated the Arabs...CONSPIRED) that somehow, someway, Arabs with little to no flight training, were able to commandeer four US domestic airliners, armed with nothing more than boxcutters, and manage to achieve what has never before happened in all of human history; that is, manage to successfully bring down three buildings in a controlled demolition in New York, NY, punch a near perfect hole in the Pentagon through to the inner ring with an aluminum framed jet, and nose dive another into a field in PA, leaving hardly any scarred area on the ground.

Sorry, you should take your own advice and stop peddling clear, utter tripe on these boards.

I watched the video and provided a list of my observations with some critical thought questions as well; you kind of ignored it and continue to shout "liar."

My observation of you is that it seems like you watch said conspiracy video content and then kind of repeat what the people in the video are saying. For example -- in the Jimmy Dore video you uploaded, he says stuff about labelling people who were questioning events as "truthers". You watched his video and are simply repeating exactly what he said.

My other observation of you is that you set a very low bar or low standard of evidence for anything you believe in and set an impossibly high bar of evidence for anything that doesn't align to your world view. For example, in a previous thread you will say things like (paraphrasing): whenever I have looked around / wherever I have looked around the earth looks flat to me, therefore I conclude it must be flat. You say this as a declaration and then kind of close the books. But then, your expectation from "the other side" is impossibly high to such a degree that you resort to calling people liars if, for example, they forget to add units of measure to a sentence.           
You offered absolutely nothing regarding the models presented by Dr. Hulsey, because you have nothing to counter what they demonstrate. The official story regarding the collapse of WTC - 7 on 9/11 is bullshit, plain, pure, and simple. And you and the rest of the conspiracy theorists need to stop pushing your unfounded conspiracy theories. They are lies and when you push them, that makes you a liar.

I repeated what Jimmy Dore said because it is true. The ones pushing the "official story," which is in reality, "a conspiracy theory," are the ones who wanted to mock the people questioning those events as "truthers." Turning a quest for truth about that day into some sort of insult.

Ain't gonna happen here.

I cannot help it if you are unable to post coherent sentences here on the forum. If you do not enjoy having that inability pointed out, perhaps you need to find another sandbox.
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New Report on WTC 7
« Last post by mahogany on February 22, 2024, 10:44:52 AM »
I am pointing out you chose to label the NIST computer modeling as valid, for the benefit of the readership here. That is a lie, as the NIST did not release their data sets to validate the model.

You know, the thing that scientists in pursuit of the truth are required to do.

So, you lied when you labeled the NIST computer modeling as valid.

Case closed.


You seem to continue to trip over yourself.

Had you bothered to carefully read the reply's posted within your own OP thread, you would know that I did not label the NIST report as Valid.

What you are referring to is a quote posting snippet (amongst many) from Tom that came from the NIST report. Tom says "Also, this is funny"...and then attaches a snippet portion of the NIST report which states "These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. THESE VALIDATED COMPUTER MODELS produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred."

All I did was reply with "Nothing really news-breaking or earth shattering Tom" and attached back the same quotes from the NIST. I wouldn't go so far as to call Tom a liar though.
Nothing earth shattering when the "validated computer models," do not reflect what was witnessed.

You are joking, right?

Or just lying.

Perhaps when the NIST said "these validated computer models" the validations they were referring to could have been from "the observations that confirmed what actually occurred" in their report. As I mentioned earlier, I did not do the computer modelling at the NIST and so I suggest that you reach out to them to get clarity on what they meant by "validated computer models."

I would also suggest that you do your own research and apply critical thought vs. uploading conspiracy theory video feeds and believing everything they say. You know, the thing that scientists do in pursuit of the truth that they are required to do.
I uploaded a video of an interview with Dr. Hulsey.

You have no critique of his model, just more of the same attack-the-messenger bullshit the rest of the liars have to offer in response.

Pathetic crap.

Dr. Hulsey's model does reflect what was seen that day.

And you reflect what was seen afterward by all the other infantile AI chatbots that were soon trotted out immediately after 9/11. You know, labeling people who were questioning the events as "truthers." Imagine, attempting to turn the word "truth," into an insult. Czar Bushy the II was a real slick one, uh...


You've got to stop watching video feeds that are steeped with conspiracy theory content. I believe it's turned you paranoid and has perhaps taken away your ability to apply good rationale critical thought.

I watched the video and provided a list of my observations with some critical thought questions as well; you kind of ignored it and continue to shout "liar."

My observation of you is that it seems like you watch said conspiracy video content and then kind of repeat what the people in the video are saying. For example -- in the Jimmy Dore video you uploaded, he says stuff about labelling people who were questioning events as "truthers". You watched his video and are simply repeating exactly what he said.

My other observation of you is that you set a very low bar or low standard of evidence for anything you believe in and set an impossibly high bar of evidence for anything that doesn't align to your world view. For example, in a previous thread you will say things like (paraphrasing): whenever I have looked around / wherever I have looked around the earth looks flat to me, therefore I conclude it must be flat. You say this as a declaration and then kind of close the books. But then, your expectation from "the other side" is impossibly high to such a degree that you resort to calling people liars if, for example, they forget to add units of measure to a sentence.           
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New Report on WTC 7
« Last post by Action80 on February 22, 2024, 08:04:09 AM »
I am pointing out you chose to label the NIST computer modeling as valid, for the benefit of the readership here. That is a lie, as the NIST did not release their data sets to validate the model.

You know, the thing that scientists in pursuit of the truth are required to do.

So, you lied when you labeled the NIST computer modeling as valid.

Case closed.


You seem to continue to trip over yourself.

Had you bothered to carefully read the reply's posted within your own OP thread, you would know that I did not label the NIST report as Valid.

What you are referring to is a quote posting snippet (amongst many) from Tom that came from the NIST report. Tom says "Also, this is funny"...and then attaches a snippet portion of the NIST report which states "These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. THESE VALIDATED COMPUTER MODELS produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred."

All I did was reply with "Nothing really news-breaking or earth shattering Tom" and attached back the same quotes from the NIST. I wouldn't go so far as to call Tom a liar though.
Nothing earth shattering when the "validated computer models," do not reflect what was witnessed.

You are joking, right?

Or just lying.

Perhaps when the NIST said "these validated computer models" the validations they were referring to could have been from "the observations that confirmed what actually occurred" in their report. As I mentioned earlier, I did not do the computer modelling at the NIST and so I suggest that you reach out to them to get clarity on what they meant by "validated computer models."

I would also suggest that you do your own research and apply critical thought vs. uploading conspiracy theory video feeds and believing everything they say. You know, the thing that scientists do in pursuit of the truth that they are required to do.
I uploaded a video of an interview with Dr. Hulsey.

You have no critique of his model, just more of the same attack-the-messenger bullshit the rest of the liars have to offer in response.

Pathetic crap.

Dr. Hulsey's model does reflect what was seen that day.

And you reflect what was seen afterward by all the other infantile AI chatbots that were soon trotted out immediately after 9/11. You know, labeling people who were questioning the events as "truthers." Imagine, attempting to turn the word "truth," into an insult. Czar Bushy the II was a real slick one, uh...
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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New Report on WTC 7
« Last post by mahogany on February 22, 2024, 01:40:15 AM »
I am pointing out you chose to label the NIST computer modeling as valid, for the benefit of the readership here. That is a lie, as the NIST did not release their data sets to validate the model.

You know, the thing that scientists in pursuit of the truth are required to do.

So, you lied when you labeled the NIST computer modeling as valid.

Case closed.


You seem to continue to trip over yourself.

Had you bothered to carefully read the reply's posted within your own OP thread, you would know that I did not label the NIST report as Valid.

What you are referring to is a quote posting snippet (amongst many) from Tom that came from the NIST report. Tom says "Also, this is funny"...and then attaches a snippet portion of the NIST report which states "These data come from extensive research, interviews, and studies of the building, including audio and video recordings of the collapse. Rigorous state-of-the-art computer methods were designed to study and model the building's collapse. THESE VALIDATED COMPUTER MODELS produced a collapse sequence that was confirmed by observations of what actually occurred."

All I did was reply with "Nothing really news-breaking or earth shattering Tom" and attached back the same quotes from the NIST. I wouldn't go so far as to call Tom a liar though.

Perhaps when the NIST said "these validated computer models" the validations they were referring to could have been from "the observations that confirmed what actually occurred" in their report. As I mentioned earlier, I did not do the computer modelling at the NIST and so I suggest that you reach out to them to get clarity on what they meant by "validated computer models."

I would also suggest that you do your own research and apply critical thought vs. uploading conspiracy theory video feeds and believing everything they say. You know, the thing that scientists do in pursuit of the truth that they are required to do.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on February 21, 2024, 07:38:26 AM »
Well, it looks like you guys have missed out on another smart Trump investment.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=trump+sneakers&_sacat=0&_sop=16&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1




And did you buy yours, Tom?

Also, a markup of 500 to 1000% is unlikely.  Most likely its someone trying to cash in and inflating the bid himself or with other accounts.  I'd be ocked if most of these were sold.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by AATW on February 21, 2024, 06:58:11 AM »
Well, it looks like there are a lot of very stupid people out there
That was pretty much my point
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Tom Bishop on February 21, 2024, 06:21:03 AM »
Well, it looks like you guys have missed out on another smart Trump investment.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=trump+sneakers&_sacat=0&_sop=16&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1