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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 12, 2022, 06:25:09 PM »
This classified document affair is turning somewhat like Trump’s botched attempt to steal the 2020 election. We have people saying Trump had a standing order to classify documents, but none of their filings or arguements so far have positively asserted that the documents in Trump’s possession were unclassified, just that the DOJ purports them to be “classified” and that they are Trump’s presidential records. Pretty funny.

I heard the "special master" needs a Top Secret coearance level too.  Which Trump's team is saying.  And thst can take months to get.

The names put forth by both sides for the position might already have ts/sci.  Well the DOJ side would anyways.

This classified document affair is turning somewhat like Trump’s botched attempt to steal the 2020 election. We have people saying Trump had a standing order to classify documents, but none of their filings or arguements so far have positively asserted that the documents in Trump’s possession were unclassified, just that the DOJ purports them to be “classified” and that they are Trump’s presidential records. Pretty funny.

An invisible standing order from when he was president to declassify...

I wonder if he'll do the same thing for any pardons anyone needs in the future.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 11, 2022, 03:28:04 PM »
Well at least he has this guy:

One of his attorneys works at a firm that lists one of its specialties as RV law.

Yes, because only poor people have RVs.



You don’t want an RV lawyer when you are defending against espionage claims being brought by the DOJ.

What if the classified material is rv related?

Ever think of that?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 10, 2022, 06:33:30 PM »
Rudy Giuliani is in his own legal trouble with Georgia which I thi k will eventually involve trump. Not sure Rudy is allowed to represent trump at this time.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 09, 2022, 07:44:06 PM »
Actually, we don't need to assume anything. We have centuries of the monarch just letting Parliament get on with governing the country without interference, because starting a civil war that you are likely to lose for no reason is an absolutely insane idea.

You have to understand that this hypothetical of yours is comparable to the POTUS trying to pass an executive order declaring himself emperor for life. It is such an astoundingly absurd thing to do that, were it to receive even a modicum of support from anyone with the power to enforce it, the result would be a completely new regime and existing laws would be irrelevant anyway.

The point of what I said isn't that the system ensures victory for parliamentarians in a civil war. It is that a civil war is so obviously undesirable to all involved that it wouldn't even be contemplated. You are proposing radical, untested alterations to a system that has been working well for centuries in order to deal with an apocalyptic hypothetical that is extremely unlikely to ever occur.

It seems to me that the UK has had the good fortune of having a reasonable monarchy made up of reasonble people.  This is not the same thing as having a well designed government. The test of how well a government is designed is what happens when unreasonable people gain control. 

That is not an answer to the question I asked, given the context. We have just established that you don't think every member of a government needs to be democratically elected. What is it about a head of state that means that person specifically needs to be able to be fired by popular vote, while others don't?

We elect someone as the head state through a not so great electoral college process.  I believe it should be a direct vote but that's a discussion for a different time.  We also elect the legislative branch, mostly democratically some with caveats but that's also a discussion for another time.

So now we have a democratically elected government.  They need to appoint quite a subject matter experts to make this government function such as judges, cabinet members, heads of institutions etc.  These members of the government, while not directly elected, are accountable to the first two branches of the government which are.  If any of these appointed members does something the public finds egregious we can threaten the elected members of the government to remove them or we'll vote them out.  One only needs to look at the Trump presidency to see this system in action.

If the head of state was not accountable to the people in this country then our world would be very different today and probably not in a good way.

You could ask the same question about any political system. If any system changed to be less democratic, then it would become less democratic.

Fair point.
Yes, because the monarch exercising certain powers on the advice of the prime minister is an integral part of how the British political system works.

Do you mean ceremonial roles or actual decisions?  I only mean that question half rhetorically.  I can't actually find an article detailing any time that Queen Elizabeth intervened in government.

Of course not. If there is a problem to be solved, then we should solve the problem. My objection is to you claiming that we should solve a problem that doesn't exist.

I understand why it hasn't been fixed.  It takes expenditure of political capitol to change such things. 

The monarchy has very little power, in practical (as opposed to hypothetical) terms. The institution of the monarchy is an insurance policy against an executive presidency, which is demonstrably less democratic than a constitutional monarchy.

This is an interesting idea.  Is there some UK doctrine where this is stated explicitly or is this something that we hope they'll do in the event of a crisis?

Also, I have to say, if we're calling a president, who is elected, less democratic than a monarch who isn't then we're doing great violence to the English language.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 08, 2022, 11:24:18 PM »
"Monarchy" and "democracy" are not antonynms. It's a (constitutional) monarchy and a democracy. Also, it is highly questionable whether the military would remain loyal to a rogue monarch. Historical precedent is against you.

So the law says the monarchy controls the military but we assume in a conflict between the people and the crown that the military will ignore the law and side with the people.

It seems to me that the system should be restructured so that the military is explicitly accountable to the people and not the crown as opposed to hoping they'll defy their oaths.

That is because you are comparing having a monarch to simply not having a monarch, which makes no sense. You can't just remove a monarch from the system and leave everything else the same, because then you would have no head of state. You need a specific alternative for any meaningful comparison.

If you compare a constitutional monarchy to the most common democratic alternative, that being a presidential system, then meaningful statements can be made. For example, the US president is not accountable to Congress and routinely signs executive orders without needing the support of his party or the electorate. Is that what you mean by the "worst case scenario"?


I think a better comparison would be Israel.  They have a parliamentary system but without a monarchy.  Would Israel be better off if they added a monarch into the mix?

Also a worst case scenario would be a monarch asserting their power in a tyranical way sort of like Mohammed bin Salman.

Again, your question is meaningless because you are asking if I think it would be good or bad if the current system was replaced with something completely undefined. Some alternatives might be better, and some would certainly be worse.


Let me ask this a different way.  If Queen Elizabeth had no defined powers over the UK would it have had any impact over her country?

Why?

So you can fire them if you're unhapppy with their choices.

And the UK Parliament also chooses not to push legislation to abolish the monarchy, because it isn't getting in the way of democracy and there are far more important issues to be getting on with. So, that's alright then?

Practically speaking I suppose.  The monarchy has had a very corgi focused agenda for quite some time.  What if that changes?  What then?

If the monarchy somehow took a tyrannical turn and parliament stripped it of any authority would you oppose this?  And to the same point, what does the UK stand to gain by preserving the power of the monarchy?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 08, 2022, 10:22:39 PM »
If you read the law outside the context of the society in which it exists, that would be a perfectly reasonable interpretation. The fact is that any attempt by the monarch to impose their authority would be seen as hostile by the vast majority of the British population, and they would be faced with three options: back down and do nothing, try to seize only a little bit of power so that Parliament has enough time to pass legislation stripping it away, or start a civil war. None of them ends in the monarch actually ruling the UK.

So it's a monarchy which tolerates a democracy in law and in practice we're assuming that if push comes to shove the citizens can overcome the military which is another power that the monarch has sole control over.

I'm not sure what the monarchy adds here.  It seems like the best case scenario is that they don't assert any power over their empire and basically function as the Kardashians.  Whereas the worst case scenario is much darker.

If instead of assuming the throne, if Charles just decided somehow that Elizabeth was the UK's last monarch do you think that would be a good thing or a bad thing?


Nor did the American people vote for John Roberts as chief justice of the Supreme Court, or Christopher A. Wray as director of the FBI. Are you asserting that every member of a government must be democratically elected in order for the government, as a whole, to function democratically?

Well not every member of the government.  But ideally at least the head of state.

Additionally this is not an accurate comparison.  We elect the people that appoint these positions. Sort of like how the people elect the members of parliament who in turn elect a prime minister.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 08, 2022, 08:36:04 PM »
At the same time, big picture, the UK, a powerful and modern nation with strong protections for individual liberty, has a fucking monarchy?
That's not a contradiction at all — constitutional monarchies tend to reinforce democracy because the monarch cannot be given any real power without seriously damaging the nation's legitimacy as a democracy on the world stage. Furthermore, constitutional monarchs are usually apolitical, whereas presidents are very often politicians even in presidential systems where they do not wield executive authority, meaning they may not be seen as representing the entire population.

Just look at France or the United States to see how easily a presidential democracy can be corrupted by centralising executive authority in a single office that is not accountable to any legislature. That could never happen in a constitutional monarchy without strong pushback from society, to put it mildly.

The narrative that monarchs are undemocratic comes, quite frankly, from people who do not understand politics.

I admit I do have my biases as an American.  However I'm not seeing how a monarchy factors into the UK's success as a democracy.  Their status as a democracy exists at the pleasure of the queen, now the king.  The legal constraints on the monarchy appear too weak to really stop them dissolving parliament and nullifying any rule of law at their whim. 

The narrative that monarchs are undemocratic comes, quite frankly, from people who do not understand politics.

Oh.  I was confused.  I wasn't aware that England voted to install Elizabeth as the queen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 08, 2022, 06:27:17 PM »
I'm torn.

She seemed like a decent person.  I will miss her.

At the same time, big picture, the UK, a powerful and modern nation with strong protections for individual liberty, has a fucking monarchy?  Is there some sort of magic sword involved in all this?


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Liz Truss
« on: September 07, 2022, 10:44:00 PM »
The term "charisma" is a broad one.  Donald Trump I would describe as having a kind of charisma even though I personally find him to be a vile human being.  He sounds like an evil buffoon but he does effectively get a lot of attention and can hold an audience.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Liz Truss
« on: September 07, 2022, 06:19:52 PM »
Two thoughts.

I've never seen such an uncharismatic leader.

The UK is in for a very difficult next few years and she'll most likely get blamed for it.

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Sweet Jesus.  She's going all the way back to to the 1600s to justify their war.  Why don't they go all the way back to the times of Genghis Khan and use that as a justification to invade Mongolia?

Also, this whole NATO justification, this is just nonsense.  Finland and Sweden are about to join.  That's way more of an infringement on Russia.  You would think Russia would be making more noise about that but nope.  Not a peep.

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This video should really be on this thread as the groupies running this site wanted to blame Russia as the bad guy bully when it was obvious they were instigated ...wanna fight, f..k yeah

NOW freeze and die bitchez

https://rumble.com/v1ism72-they-finally-admitted-it.html

I was under the impression that Joe Biden, with his powerful intellect and sharp wit, tricked Putin into special military operationing Ukraine.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 06, 2022, 12:12:47 AM »
What they really should have done is pushed for plug in hybrids.  DC fast charging would have been a non issue.  Everyone charging when they get home from work would still be an issue though.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 05, 2022, 02:26:08 PM »
Ah. So a localized grid problem. That I can believe. Some states grids are better than others.

But like the good book says, all grids are upgradeable through christ Jesus.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 05, 2022, 07:12:48 AM »
My point being that the grid buckling under the weight of EVs is not something to be all that worried about.

It's almost like you just made this up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/10/13/electric-vehicles-grid-upgrade/

The only places saying the grid will be fine are, coincidentally, EV blogs where no one in the room has a degree in power engineering. Every time I watch power engineers talk about the grid at conferences, they look nervous as all hell and say the grid needs massive upgrades, then I hear politicians and environmental morons say "don't worry about it". Who do you think I'm going to believe? It's not coincidence that the same people saying it's "not something to be all that worried about" are the same people who know absolutely nothing about electrical power.

My goodness.  You act like the grid is some kind of otherworldly entity that has been gifted to us by aliens and as such as may never touch it or leave it as is.

I assure you this is not the case.  We regularly upgraded it for whatever need arises and I'm sure your power engineer friends will back me up on this, grumble as they might for having to do work.

FYI, I do know something about power.  And when I saw that, I'm being modest.

Rushy is right tho.
Its a massive undertaking that most electrical companies don't want to do unless they have to.  Not to mention building more power plants and that cost.

America has been dragging its feet on upgrades for decades because its not profitable to do so.  Instead of planning ahead and doing it before its needed.

Having alot of EVs at once is a big power need and will cause issues if the grid isn't ready.

I must disagree with the severity of the undertaking. 

There are about 2.32 million evs in the US.  The average distance they drive is 14263 miles in a year = 33,090,160,000.

At 330 wats per mision that's 10,919,752,800 kwh vs the grid's output of 4.12 trillion kwh. 

So currently EVs overall draw less than a percent of the grid.  Increase the number of EVs to 100% of passenger vehicles and the load would be 5%.

I think some of the confusion might be coming from comparing EV power draws to residential sources.  Residential makes up a relatively minor pie of the power grid.

I admit.  It is 1 in the morning and its easily possible that my numbers are wrong.  Feel free to correct me.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: September 05, 2022, 02:13:19 AM »
The first and third statutes are truly meaningless, because they require proof of malicious intent, and you're unlikely to get that with Trump. The fact that he's such a clueless idiot is going to be a major obstacle for the prosecution to prove malicious intent.

The second statute has legs, and could end up barring Trump from holding public office, despite the penalty itself (probably a fine, which won't hurt Trump) being kind of weak. I feel like it will be a lot easier to show that Trump removed the records intentionally than to show that he did it with malicious intent.

He's not going to jail, but maybe they can stop him from being able to run for President again.

Perhaps. But wouldn't it be hilarious to see trump try to defend himself in court by claiming he's too stupid to commit the crime.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 03, 2022, 06:33:34 AM »
My point being that the grid buckling under the weight of EVs is not something to be all that worried about.

It's almost like you just made this up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/10/13/electric-vehicles-grid-upgrade/

The only places saying the grid will be fine are, coincidentally, EV blogs where no one in the room has a degree in power engineering. Every time I watch power engineers talk about the grid at conferences, they look nervous as all hell and say the grid needs massive upgrades, then I hear politicians and environmental morons say "don't worry about it". Who do you think I'm going to believe? It's not coincidence that the same people saying it's "not something to be all that worried about" are the same people who know absolutely nothing about electrical power.

My goodness.  You act like the grid is some kind of otherworldly entity that has been gifted to us by aliens and as such as may never touch it or leave it as is.

I assure you this is not the case.  We regularly upgraded it for whatever need arises and I'm sure your power engineer friends will back me up on this, grumble as they might for having to do work.

FYI, I do know something about power.  And when I saw that, I'm being modest.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 02, 2022, 10:49:01 PM »
I'm seeing a variety of sources say the average commute is about 30 miles both ways.

It would be 30% if everyone sold their gas vehicles and went electric overnight.  The change is going to be gradual though as will the improvements to the grid to handle it.

My point being that the grid buckling under the weight of EVs is not something to be all that worried about.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 02, 2022, 05:37:37 AM »
Joe is an idiot with all the Dems..

Grid can't and will never handle electric vehicles.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/california-advises-slower-ev-charging-175627840.html

These people are just being alarmist.  California is recommending cutting back on all electrical use to avoid rolling blackouts.  EVs don't use anywhere near enough electricity to stress the grid under normal circumstances.

I charged two teslas on a 50 amp rv plug on my service pole. $120....Thats stress. Solar also doesn't do well at night :)

I call BS.  I own a Telsa it and it just doesn't take anywhere near that much electricity.

Also solar has nothing to do with this.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: September 02, 2022, 12:03:35 AM »
Joe is an idiot with all the Dems..

Grid can't and will never handle electric vehicles.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/california-advises-slower-ev-charging-175627840.html

These people are just being alarmist.  California is recommending cutting back on all electrical use to avoid rolling blackouts.  EVs don't use anywhere near enough electricity to stress the grid under normal circumstances.


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