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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: So Long Boris!
« on: July 09, 2022, 12:17:19 AM »
I read somewhere that he could still be in place for months while the party comes up with a successor. Is that how it works?
Yes.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: So Long Boris!
« on: July 08, 2022, 10:01:40 PM »
Hopefully his successor will at least cancel the plan to violate the UK's international treaty obligations and restore respect for the rule of law in Britain before it loses what little credibility it has left as a world power.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: July 07, 2022, 10:25:30 PM »
Meanwhile in Europe...

The European Parliament has asked for the right to "safe and legal abortion" be added to the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights and stressed denying the procedure amounted to a form of violence against women and girls.

"Women’s rights are inalienable, and they cannot be removed or watered down," they wrote.

Amending the charter would require a revision of the EU treaties.

The non-binding resolution, which passes with 324 votes in favour and 155 against, was a symbolic gesture of support for the millions of American women who stand to lose access to abortion after the recent ruling of the US Supreme Court that overturned the landmark Roe v Wade case and put an end to 50 years of a constitutional right to abortion there.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Attachments
« on: June 22, 2022, 07:13:24 PM »
If content presented or appearing here is hosted elsewhere, then it's not in your control and could disappear at any time.
That is, in many ways, preferable to the burden of moderating people's attachments for content that may be illegal to distribute.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Attachments
« on: June 19, 2022, 06:33:23 PM »
I've doubled the attachment directory size limit for now. Should be working again.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 19, 2022, 03:51:01 PM »

I can confirm this strategy works from a lifetime of experience with women who employ it.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 16, 2022, 10:35:51 AM »
you stated that if the man wants to get an abortion and the woman declines, the man should be off the hook for his child support obligations. i fail to see how such a system could possibly avoid the consequence of "any man who doesn't want to pay child support to a woman he has impregnated can simply request that she get an abortion."
That's not a consequence, it is the intended goal, but that's not what you said before. This is a bit like saying that allowing abortion has the consequence of "any woman who doesn't want to have a child can simply have an abortion".

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 15, 2022, 04:54:22 PM »
lol aside from the fact that this is absurdly illogical, you're just creating a legal loophole for literally every man to get out of having to pay any child support simply by saying he wanted to get an abortion.
Not necessarily. There are ways of implementing that idea which do not have such consequences. Assuming the least generous possible implementation of someone else's stated principle is not a very honest way to debate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 15, 2022, 08:30:49 AM »
Yes, it's the woman's body and therefore the woman's right to choose, not the man's.
No, Tom happens to be right on this particular issue. If the man wants the woman to get an abortion, and she declines, he should have no obligation (legal or social) to 18 years of financial support for a child he doesn't want.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: NATO Shenanigans
« on: May 13, 2022, 04:56:05 PM »
It might be time to create NATO 2.0 and not include countries like Hungary and Turkey.  Maybe a EU 2.0 while they're at it to kick those two countries out also.
Yes of course, Turkey is a notoriously troublesome EU member.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 10, 2022, 10:53:04 AM »
ITT Tom ascribes will and intent to a clump of cells. I suppose if that is what you believe, then being pro-life is consistent, but it does require you to ascribe will and intent to a clump of cells.
It also requires you to oppose cancer treatment.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2022 Northern Ireland election
« on: May 07, 2022, 06:51:59 PM »
Sinn Féin now definitively has the most seats, for the first time in 101 years. There are still 2 seats left to declare, but Sinn Féin has 27 and DUP has 24, so there is no way for them to catch up.

Unfortunately, they are still harping on about a border poll instead of dealing with the real issues people care about.

While unionists at some count centres were left visibly stunned by the scale of their defeat, there was jubilation among supporters of Sinn Féin, whose leader, Mary Lou McDonald, told TalkTV she believed a border poll on a united Ireland would be possible “within a five-year timeframe”.

Still a step up from the DUP, though.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 06, 2022, 05:02:00 PM »
Ironic that the side that's "more aware" of "crises" would prefer to castrate their own genealogical lines resulting in the "wrong" ideology proliferating over their own.
I wasn't aware political ideology was genetic.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 06, 2022, 04:05:23 PM »
I don't agree with this. People on the far left can have the nurturing urge just like anyone else. It's likely more correlation not causation.
Another factor is that people on the left tend to be more aware of the climate, housing and cost of living crises, which leads many to conclude that it is irresponsible to bring a child into today's world. Those who downplay climate change and believe that the market will fix the cost of living on its own tend to be more right-wing.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2022 Northern Ireland election
« on: May 06, 2022, 04:00:05 PM »
The election count is well underway. https://www.bbc.com/news/election/2022/northern-ireland/results

As predicted, Sinn Féin topped the first preferences and is (so far) topping the number of seats, although only 15 of 90 seats have been declared as yet.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 07:39:10 PM »
Because this country (the GOP and conservatives for clarity's sake) wants more white babies. We don't want to bring in immigrants to help our declining birth rate so the only fix is to force women to have babies. The boomers are getting older and there's not enough people to take care of them.
Sounds like they should fix the housing crisis so people can afford to buy a family home, then.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 07:01:42 PM »
Solve the other problems and you greatly diminish abortion.
I do agree with this. I can't understand how the anti-abortion crowd aren't campaigning for free birth control.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Bye Bye Abortion
« on: May 05, 2022, 06:41:10 PM »
Something that will eventually develop into a life is splitting hairs and irrelevant. Until it is a life then it does not supersede the life of the person carrying it.
You are making a distinction between when a foetus is a “life” and when it isn’t. That distinction doesn’t really exist or, at best, is a grey area which keeps changing as medicine does. I don’t think life begins at conception but I don’t think it’s clear when it becomes so.
Well, "life" began 4 billion years ago and has been around continuously since then. The question isn't when an embryo or fœtus becomes "alive", but when it qualifies as a human life.

To me, the important issue here isn't the definition of a "life", but rather the question of the mother-to-be's commitment. If the opportunity is presented to abort at, say, 5 weeks pregnancy, and the mother chooses to keep the baby, then it is unreasonable to say "I changed my mind" at 15 or 20 or 25 weeks, regardless of the state of the fœtus. Conversely, if the opportunity is not available (due to legal or circumstantial restrictions) at an early stage, then an abortion at 15 weeks may make more sense. But the decision to commit (or not) to pregnancy should be made as early as possible to avoid undue suffering on the part of the fœtus, and then once the commitment is made, it should be permanent (with obvious exceptions for life-threatening cases).

On the point about artificial wombs, I don't think that it makes sense to say that just because a zygote would eventually become a human baby, it is best to let it develop. Is bringing a child into an abusive family or an orphanage better than preventing it from ever existing? I know there are some who would say yes, but at the very least it should be clear that there are a variety of reasonable views on that question.

So, once again, we come to the issue being more complex than it first appears.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: 2022 Northern Ireland election
« on: May 05, 2022, 12:55:06 PM »
Not content to have created this situation, Westminster has decided to stoke it some more.

Brandon Lewis indicated on ITV’s Peston programme on Wednesday night that the government had pulled back from including plans in the Queen’s speech next week allowing it to suspend part of the protocol.

Coming just hours before polling stations opened for today’s Assembly election, his comments could spell serious trouble for DUP leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson.

There is no possible reason for them to make this announcement at this particular time, other than in the hope of rousing up anger on election day in Northern Ireland. This isn't about the Protocol, it's about propping up Boris's regime by creating problems that it can then purport to solve.

Boris needs to be ousted, and he needs to be ousted now.

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