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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: FL GOP are homophobic crybabies

« on: April 06, 2022, 10:19:54 AM »

"Oh my god! Teachers cannot talk about their sex lives to children!"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 06, 2022, 05:33:06 AM »

A voice so strong, you cannot help but listen.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 05, 2022, 03:19:10 PM »

... therefore children will instantly become gay if they hear about same-sex partnerships in school.

Who said kids will become gay if they talk to gay people?

My kids will just beat the hell out of a faggot if the faggot chooses to make it a topic of conversation out in public.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 05, 2022, 02:37:26 PM »

I can call to mind a number of occasions when my teachers stepped out from the standard curriculum to, you know, actually TEACH us something. Did me no harm.

Considering that you are here arguing in favor of sexual orientation and gender identity LGBTQ education for K-3, I question that.

Tumeni and AATW advocate starting with the wee little kids as early as possible.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 04, 2022, 04:53:35 PM »

The blog at study.com is nothing to rely on regarding the legality of such discussions and job responsibilities.

Someone will bring an EEOC complaint in the US or a lawsuit regarding sexual harassment regarding this entire situation and probably soon.

I agree, but Tom cited it as a source so I wanted to point out that his own source paints a more nuanced picture than he would like.

That source that you are nutpicking.

Tell us all how it negates the ethics clauses in the language concerning personal life information sharing in the multiple contracts that Tom also provided.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 04, 2022, 04:42:04 PM »

I do not need to ask myself anything at all.

If you have an issue with a male teacher telling a pupil that they have a husband, but don't have an issue with them telling the pupil they have a wife then I'd suggest it's you who has the problem. You may have grown up in a world where men couldn't marry men - my parents grew up in a world where it was actively illegal. But that's not the world we live in now.

Isn't this common sense? I wouldn't expect a teacher to be discussing the details of their sex life or marriage issues with kids, but just mentioning they have a husband is hardly going to start a discussion with a 6 year old about gay sex. What problem are we actually solving here?

If frogs had wings, then Clyde wouldn't be bumping his ass on the ground while moderating elsewhere either, but the issue here is not about what problems you may think I have or the problems that I KNOW you have.

The issue is about the legality of discussing things relative to sexuality with children pre-K through 3rd grade.

You are for it.

I am not.

End of story.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 04, 2022, 02:37:35 PM »

The blog at study.com is nothing to rely on regarding the legality of such discussions and job responsibilities.

Someone will bring an EEOC complaint in the US or a lawsuit regarding sexual harassment regarding this entire situation and probably soon.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 04, 2022, 02:31:16 PM »

What does the statement "Do not discuss your personal life with students," mean if it does not mean exactly what it states?

Well, it's open to interpretation isn't it? What do you regard as "personal life"?
One of the pieces of guidance Tom posted said something about not mentioning a hard divorce. And sure, that is quite personal.
But the fact that you're married - if someone asks you that are you seriously saying you're reticent to answer because it's personal? It's a pretty basic piece of information.

You need to ask yourself honestly - do you have an issue with a male teacher telling pupils they're married...or does it only become an issue for you if they're married to a man?

I do not need to ask myself anything at all.

Anyone wasting their time and my money not performing the job for which they are hired, within all designated guidelines and parameters, should be dismissed.

I don't give a shit what the topic is.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 04, 2022, 02:27:34 PM »

What does the statement "Do not discuss your personal life with students," mean if it does not mean exactly what it states?

When does a remark, or example become a discussion?  By any definition of the several I have just read, a teacher mentioning something about themselves would not constitute a discussion. A discussion requires parties to exchange ideas about the topic.

True, but discussions commence with the uttering of a remark by one party.

I fail to understand why a remark concerning one's personal sexual orientation is necessary in a public education institution.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: ECHOSTAR (Private Satellite) Earth footage?

« on: April 04, 2022, 02:25:05 PM »

You accept the evidence, I do not, for the reasons I presented.

What reasons were those? I don't remember seeing any.

This is obviously a statement regarding your memory, rather than my reasons.

At least I don't remember seeing any evidence to support your reasons if you had any to begin with.

The evidence is right outside my window.

Apparently, you just dismiss evidence for "reasons"? I hope you never get selected for a jury trial.

And apparently you just accept press releases as evidence.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: April 04, 2022, 11:15:25 AM »

A more positive spin on the concept is simply that it's people supporting laws, policies, or agendas that they feel benefit or protect those of the group or class of people which they identify with or belong to. Politicians of both parties have for decades made explicit calls for the support of members of various groups or classes, insisting that their election will be the best outcome for people of that group or class in particular. It's hardly a phenomenon unique to Democrats.

You think that's positive, uh?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 04, 2022, 11:13:00 AM »

If it's already in all of the ethics, code of conduct literature, why this new law?

Because none of this stuff means what the homophobic bigots want to pretend it means.
None of them have ever had a problem with a teacher mentioning their spouse. But suddenly when the spouse is the same sex as the teacher they need to protect little Johnny from knowing about this perversion. Although obviously it’s them who has the problem, not little Johnny. Kids don’t have this sort of bigotry, they learn it. Hopefully these sorts of attitudes will die out with the bigots.

What does the statement "Do not discuss your personal life with students," mean if it does not mean exactly what it states?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 03, 2022, 10:12:09 AM »

So the answer is no, you don't really understand what he was saying there since you can't use your own words to describe it.

He was pointing out your first-grade teacher wasn't talking to you about issues relating to his/her private life outside of the school and if they were, they were unjustified in doing so.

I understood perfectly well what the message was.

You don't.

Bye.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: ECHOSTAR (Private Satellite) Earth footage?

« on: April 02, 2022, 04:16:45 PM »

You seem awfully unhappy over rejection.

Nobody is "unhappy", we merely disagree with you, and are more persistent than you are comfortable with.

Persistent in answering for others is what you mean, right?

Or was this a prepared statement that you are following?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: ECHOSTAR (Private Satellite) Earth footage?

« on: April 02, 2022, 11:35:25 AM »

This thread is about photographs?

The video is a timelapse of individual frames, yes. So it could be regarded as such.

The original broadcast was a live stream, as far as I can gather.

Correct. Action80 would rather argue semantics than actually read what I said. It was a broadcast but they may as well be called “photographs” because it was every 5 minutes. Or call it footage. I don’t care.

Again:
All the POSSIBLE evidence that could exist for space travel and a globe… DOES exist. It doesn’t get much better than what we have: literal photographs, videos, jobs, engineering etc.

You have already decided that no evidence will make you happy, because all the possible evidence does in fact exist.

You accept the evidence, I do not, for the reasons I presented.

You seem awfully unhappy over rejection.

Hopefully, you can move on in your life.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 02, 2022, 06:26:13 AM »

I didn't ask you to quote what he said, I asked what you thought he meant.

Copying what someone else wrote is no replacement for actually answering a question. Try and use your own words.

He was pointing out your first-grade teacher wasn't talking to you about issues relating to his/her private life outside of the school and if they were, they were unjustified in doing so.

You got that, from this?  "Yes, I don't doubt you that your first grade teacher taught you all about your body."

It's pretty clear you are just paraphrasing what was discussed earlier in the conversation, as none of what you just said was mentioned in the quote above.  Try telling me what that quite means without copying bits of the conversation before it.

Yeah, that is what I got from it.

Try to learn to read using inference and stop quoting the goddamn post and use your own words rather than quoting, since those are the rules you like.

What's sick is you advocating for sex education in schools for pre-k through third grade students.

Maybe you should just go ahead and change your screen name to Aqualung and get it over with.

As a matter of fact, just dole out #1, #2, etc, to the lot of you.

You might think it's sick for a lesbian teacher to mention she's married, but I don't.  Just like it's not sick for a straight teacher to mention she's married.  Nothing wrong with either of those. People get married, do you think children shouldn't know this?

If you think one is sick, that's your problem.  Teaching children to be homophobic is sick.

Hyperbole is your best friend, I see.

Coming from you, that's pretty ironic.

Irony does not negate truthfulness.

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Arts & Entertainment / Will Smith does a good thing

« on: April 02, 2022, 06:22:34 AM »

Good first step.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: LGBT School Teachers

« on: April 01, 2022, 07:40:19 PM »

If what he said really went over your head, I'm not going to be the one to explain it to you.  Ask Tom what he meant.

I know exactly what he meant.

What was sick about it?

I said ask Tom, I'm not going to explain it to you.  Feel free to explain what you think he meant if you want to.

He stated, writing directly to you, and I quote:

I didn't ask you to quote what he said, I asked what you thought he meant.

Copying what someone else wrote is no replacement for actually answering a question. Try and use your own words.

He was pointing out your first-grade teacher wasn't talking to you about issues relating to his/her private life outside of the school and if they were, they were unjustified in doing so.

What's sick is you advocating for sex education in schools for pre-k through third grade students.

Maybe you should just go ahead and change your screen name to Aqualung and get it over with.

As a matter of fact, just dole out #1, #2, etc, to the lot of you.

You might think it's sick for a lesbian teacher to mention she's married, but I don't.  Just like it's not sick for a straight teacher to mention she's married.  Nothing wrong with either of those. People get married, do you think children shouldn't know this?

If you think one is sick, that's your problem.  Teaching children to be homophobic is sick.

Hyperbole is your best friend, I see.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: ECHOSTAR (Private Satellite) Earth footage?

« on: April 01, 2022, 07:34:43 PM »

Even if we had one, we wouldn't share with RE-adherents.

If you had the knowledge, you wouldn’t share it? Is that not completely antithetical to the point of science and knowledge?

Let’s be absolutely clear:
All the POSSIBLE evidence that could exist for space travel and a globe… DOES exist. It doesn’t get much better than what we have: literal photographs, videos, jobs, engineering etc.

There’s photographs in the OP. Your beliefs won’t stop the rest of humanity from living in reality.

In fact, your disbelief is exactly my point. You can’t lean on any inaccuracies in the footage, because there aren’t any. All you can do is disbelieve.

There is nothing they can do to make literal photographs more real. Nothing will make you happy here.

This thread is about photographs?

Oh, that's different.

You got bupkus there too.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: ECHOSTAR (Private Satellite) Earth footage?

« on: April 01, 2022, 05:17:47 PM »

That's what hypocrisy is, using one set of standards for your evidence, and another for everyone elses.  Is that more clear?

If I was doing that, then yeah...but I am not...so, it isn't.

So you do agree that multiple flat earth maps are a reason to dismiss them?

Why would I do that?

I happily agree that all RE maps are invalid. Unless you have just one you want to settle on.

Because you had an issue with two people giving you different ideas as to the source of noise, and claimed that meant it was invalid.

I never claimed one or the other was invalid.

Quit making stuff up.

You said "Turns out you RE have no solid, definitive explanation at all." as a response to those comments where you told them to make up their mind. 

I suppose that means you agree that "Turns out you FE have no solid, definitive explanation at all." as well?

Of course, that is what it means.

Even if we had one, we wouldn't share with RE-adherents.

That's the thing about you globulists. You think people owe you something.

We don't.

And from there, you just went on posting a bunch of other repetitious stuff, thinking "WOW, I really got em here! Look at me guys!!!"

Nah, you don't.