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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Evidence of the firmament

« on: September 19, 2022, 11:43:39 PM »

So it seems average strataspheroc temps are higher around the South Pole?  The temperature inversion beginning at the stratosphere from cold to warm as you move up in altitude may help explain a low troposphere and taller atmosphere on top. 

There's still some unexplained things though.  From 90N latitude the stratosphere is 4 miles high.  From 90S latitude the stratosphere or other top layers would begin to be much taller (on a South centered FE Map)- like  by 5 or 6 times to make a dome shape.   These kind of measurements I will look for.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Evidence of the firmament

« on: September 19, 2022, 02:35:39 PM »

I'm not arguing the height of the Troposphere.  its the height of taller atmospheric layers which I'm looking for...  I haven't found it in the paper you sent me yet..

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Evidence of the firmament

« on: September 19, 2022, 01:50:25 PM »

Bob, all of the data I use is 99% "science approved" or from reputable institutions which I think your referring to..  Look again at the data I provided..

I need to sort through the atmospheric data you sent me in more detail later.

And to your earlier question about FE Theory in contention with regular atmospheric layer structure.... its not a problem.  As the visual above says, space craft, satellites, and the sun and moon all have there own "atmospheric" layer they reside in or on top of.  The sun and moon may be "on top" of another layer like the exosphere, but also within there own layer like the Heliosphere. 

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: New! SUM Speclatron Universe Model

« on: September 19, 2022, 01:31:56 PM »

I can't pretend to understand some of this, but at least your trying to address some of the questions science has regarding space/matter...   Thanks!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Evidence of the firmament

« on: September 18, 2022, 10:05:01 PM »

Maybe a firmament or solid structure isn't necessary at the edges of a flat earth?  On a round earth, the layers of the atmosphere are lower in height at the Poles and higher at the Equator.  For example, the Troposphere is 4 miles high at the Poles and 12 miles high at the Equator.

The reason is that cold temperature makes liquids and gases more dense and sit closer to the ground. But if the atmosphere always seeks it level, why doesn't the higher and less dense air near the equator "spill over" into the Arctic areas?  I assume its the slow and gradual change in height, temp, and density that allows air to sit alongside itself like a load bearing Archway.

The same logic I think can apply to a flat earth.  The cold and more dense air at the edge of the disc help hold in the lesser dense air in the middle and it naturally creates a Dome.

I'm aware on a flat earth the altitude of the Atmosphere would have to be higher at one pole and lower at another pole to form a dome.  I can think of a few possibilities like air pressure but more investigation is needed.  Edit:. It's possible the lower atmosphere is condensed by cold temps in the center of a flat Earth but that the higher thinner air collects in the middle and maintains a domed shape.



Here's an explanation of Atmospheric layers on a Round Earth, but it doesn't address the height differences between the poles. 

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic

« on: September 14, 2022, 09:37:34 AM »

So far photographing objects in the distance are beginning to look unreliable as to whether its physical in nature or a refracted image.

Leaving waves and perspective aside, its clear that sometimes depending on the weather ships and other objects will sink beneath the horizon or in front of it as is the case with the Nat Geo experiment.
 Objects will also remain level with the horizon or even float above it as is the case with "Superior Mirages"!


https://www.oldsaltblog.com/2021/03/good-ship-fata-morgana-hovering-above-the-horizon/

When the air is hotter at the surface and cooler above it, it can bend images down and produce a sinking ship effect.  When the air is cool at the surface and gets hotter going up, then images can be bent upwards and appear to float above the horizon.

I suppose the real disagreement is about the nature and affects of refraction. 

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Evidence of the firmament

« on: September 13, 2022, 09:32:52 AM »

Hi Jonny,

Here's a few links to the Wiki which might help you get started....https://wiki.tfes.org/Atmolayer

Gernerally speaking, the atmosphere on a flat earth is made of the same layers of gases as seen on a round earth (troposphere, mesosphere, stratosphere) etc... These all stack on top of one another and form domes within domes as there edges curve towards the ground near the edges of earth.  Each of these domes has a "firmament" or boundry layer called Tropopause, Mesopause, Stratopause, etc...) 

I'm not sure what contains all of these layers to earth generally speaking, except perhaps ice.  Space is freezing cold, and that would naturally form a layer of Ice along the edge of the outer atmosphere to hold it in. 

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Technology & Information / Re: T minus 30 minutes - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: September 03, 2022, 06:42:24 PM »

   it'll happen

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Technology & Information / Re: T minus 30 minutes - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: August 29, 2022, 07:30:18 PM »

Lol, 

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Technology & Information / Re: T minus 30 minutes - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: August 29, 2022, 12:38:49 PM »

Nevermind... The launch was scrubbed because of cooling issues in the tank or something.  Friday might be the next window, i'll try to update.

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Technology & Information / T-minus 10 hours - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: August 29, 2022, 11:58:09 AM »

Edit:. This video explains the mission, flight path, and duration etc.  17,000mph and crazy altitude gains in the first few minutes.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Automatic Logout while submitting a post

« on: August 03, 2022, 04:40:35 PM »

Stack your right...  The Back button will retrieve your draft before and after you login again.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Automatic Logout while submitting a post

« on: August 03, 2022, 04:09:30 PM »

Edit:  I made sure spell checker is on for windows 10 by going to Settings - Devices - Typing - and clicking on the spell check options.  I can get a small box with recommended words but only if you scroll over each word and its not helpful. 

Stack - the back button doesn't help me either

It's okay though, I have other options as you guys pointed out.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Automatic Logout while submitting a post

« on: August 03, 2022, 11:12:31 AM »

 I do that to.  It also helps with spell check, which I don't think Is a feature here? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked..

« on: August 01, 2022, 07:46:17 PM »

I just read Job again after a few years.  The first time I read it was very comforting in a difficult time.  The friends that visit Job are very kind.  I would just take Gods original conversation with Satan at face value - the point that Job is faithful no matter what.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Re: Automatic Logout while submitting a post

« on: July 31, 2022, 09:04:11 PM »

Okay, that sounds good thank you.

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Suggestions & Concerns / Automatic Logout while submitting a post

« on: July 31, 2022, 08:51:01 PM »

Is there any way we can dely the sign-out process while someone is writing a post?   Or at least save the post as a draft once a person signs back in?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Theory that Black Holes are Land Mass

« on: July 31, 2022, 12:15:06 AM »

Stack I'll try to make a visual sometime later to clarify..

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Theory that Black Holes are Land Mass

« on: July 30, 2022, 08:31:41 PM »

When looking at earth from space, the southern hemisphere will look almost twice as big and the upper northern hemisphere small compared to the visual you'd have of earth if you removed the atmosphere.  But, because RE measurements add miles to the south and subtract them from the north, total area I don't think is too different so earth is still a reasonable reference point from space.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Theory that Black Holes are Land Mass

« on: July 30, 2022, 05:47:17 PM »

If an area is difficult to directly measure, then maps and everything that goes into making maps are the next best thing.   And earth itself is probably the best frame of reference from space because its dimensions are generally understood.