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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« on: September 28, 2022, 09:48:48 PM »
How did you account for air quality variables between yourself and the sun during your period of observation?
Air quality variables?  You mean like particulate matter, humidity and temperature?  These, under normal physics, would have a negligible effect on the apparent elevation of the sun.  I can only assume that MC Toon was using normal physics as there is very little offered from the FE perspective.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: $$$ inflation $$$ Say it ain't so Joe
« on: September 22, 2022, 05:32:28 PM »

(Inflation Costing Average American Family $11,500 This Year)

Opps I guess Joes a stupid liar.

Meanwhile, President Joe Biden insisted earlier this week in an interview on CBS’ “60 Minutes” that inflation “hasn’t spiked” in recent months and remains “basically even.”

Personally I've made some changes along the household expenses to prevent such financial instability. My guess is I couldn't dodge 5% of the increases on average. Social Security COLA and higher interest rates once the business turmoil slows will allow many of us to claw back the 5%

Well, to begin with I would not trust anything I read from that user contributed site without checking it out further.  It seems zero fact checking is done on the stories.

Secondly, even calculating past inflation is an extremely difficult thing to do and cannot be done with absolute certainty.  You can't just compare the price of an "item" 20 years ago to the price of the "item" today and substract one from the other, divide by the number of intervening years then declare an average inflation rate.  It just does not work that way.  The first and foremost reason is that the "item" you had 20 years ago will almost certainly NOT be the same "item" you have today.  There are many other considerations too .. hundreds of them.

Thirdly, predicating future inflation is just not possible.  You have a better chance of predicting the weather for January 31st 2022 than you do of predicting what the inflation rate will be then.

You can believe whatever you want to confirm your bias, that's on you, but don't you owe it to yourself to check stuff like this out before using it to denigrate someone?  Or is that the good, bible thumping, Christian way?  Make blind unsubstantiated accusations against your neighbors and spread possible lies about them?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 20, 2022, 10:51:39 PM »
So Biden was in the back because he didn't have a good relationship with the Queen and he deserved to be in the back. That was the premise of the post you are trying to argue against.
No.  Being the leader of a friendly foreign country does not entitle you to be considered related to the queen or being a close personal friend or another royal.  In your life it may be that if you pass within 50' of someone and war does not break out you are then BFF's or a future mate, but the rest of the world is not so alone.  I would guess Biden and the queen had no personal relationship at all.  They met briefly (total time measured in minutes) only twice their lives.  The first time Biden was a relatively young man.

Quit trolling Tom.

Science & Alternative Science / TED
« on: September 20, 2022, 12:35:08 PM »
Any of you watch TED talks?

This one is one of the best ever.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 20, 2022, 12:28:04 PM »
This is embarassing for Joe Biden, though, to be made to sit towards the back in a room of world leaders.
They back was for world leaders.  The front rows of that section would be reserved for Commonwealth of Nations members.  As is usual in these tings, the very fornt rows were for closer relations.  Family, friends, royals, etc. of which there are many.  I'm sure Joe Biden understood all this.  It's obvious you don't, just like a great many things.

Diversity is a good thing.

Maybe for investing and farming. But most diversity you see in the world is merely superficial. People will always segregate themselves by cultural background and social status.
You should visit Toronto sometime.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 14, 2022, 08:10:05 PM »
The wave in Alaska (Lituya Bay, I believe) was over 1700 feet high.
I am not making anything up.

You are.
You are misinterpreting the event.  Read the analysis.   The actual swell in the water (the wave) was about 100 feet however it's momentum drove it (run-up) over 1,700 up the head of the bay.  If there was nothing there to stop it it would never have reached over 100 feet.  It was also an unusual wave that was not traveling at the normal speed of waves in water for that depth.  It was in effect a shock wave that, had it propagated out to open sea, would have slowed dramatically.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 13, 2022, 03:17:29 PM »
I have no idea why any of you want to claim anyone here has written or claimed seas are flat. Seas are well noted for possessing waves and swells, frequently exceeding heights of 100 feet.
Action gets it wrong again and just makes shit up.  100 feet is the highest wave ever recorded, and that was the largest ever recorded tsunami and occurred in 1958 near Alaska.

Mid ocean waves during storms might reach 33-34 feet, normally they are 5-10 feet.  The earth's diameter is nearly 42 million feet.  So the big stormy mid ocean waves of 34 feet don't amount to a pinch of coon shit.  The ocean is smoother than anything you have ever seen.  Smoother than electropolished metal.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ultraprocessed Foods
« on: September 11, 2022, 03:11:13 PM »
So basically added sugar or high sugar content.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ultraprocessed Foods
« on: September 11, 2022, 02:54:20 PM »
Some examples of ultraprocessed foods it gives are "margarine", "candies" and "sweetened yogurt". Do you avoid these things too?
With every fiber of my being.  I wouldn't touch margarine with 10 foot pole and I don't consume sweets or anything that has sugar as a part of the list of ingredients.

How are you alive?
Sugars are essential for human life.  What, you don't even eat fruit?
My body will get all the sugar it needs from the foods I eat.   And I do eat fruit, but not sweet fruit.  I eat fruit like tomatoes, avocados, cucumbers, peppers, certain members of the squash family like zucchini and small quantities of wild berries when they are in season.  I don't eat bananas, apples, oranges, pears or other high sugar fruit.  I also eat large amounts of cruciferous vegetables, greens, onions, garlic, etc..  These all have some amount of carbohydrates which the body will break down into the all the sugar it needs.  In fact, much more than it needs.

However, if humans get no dietary carbohydrates at all, they can live quite nicely.  The main metabolic process in humans is supposed to be ketone based, not glucose.  Some processes in the human body need tiny amounts of glucose and it can produce all it needs through gluconeogenesis.

But, of course, what I meant by what I wrote above was that I read the list of ingredients for the small quantity of processed food I eat and if sugar is there, I don't buy it or eat it.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ultraprocessed Foods
« on: September 11, 2022, 02:22:06 PM »
Some examples of ultraprocessed foods it gives are "margarine", "candies" and "sweetened yogurt". Do you avoid these things too?
With every fiber of my being.  I wouldn't touch margarine with 10 foot pole and I don't consume sweets or anything that has sugar as a part of the list of ingredients.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Who the f**k is Pierre Poilievre?
« on: September 11, 2022, 02:11:36 AM »
I thought the nice hair thing was over… didn’t he get a wal mart bowl cut and looks like Lloyd Christmas now?
TBH, I try not to pay much attention to him.  I just thought the Conservatives should have done better.  They had a long friggin' time to get their asses in gear .. then this.

I like to think I'm not politically aligned, and I don't want folks to think I want a right-wing government (I guess we really don't have a right-wing in Canada per se, maybe just AB) but I do want some heavy hitters to come to the table.  So in the next election we will have 'who cares?' and 'who?' vying to lead one of the top 10 economies in the world.   ???

I'll go get that whiskey bottle Pete keeps harping about.  It is time.   ::)

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Who the f**k is Pierre Poilievre?
« on: September 11, 2022, 01:59:34 AM »
It looks like we'll be in for another 4 years of Justin with the nice hair.

And you Brits and Yanks think you have trouble.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Ultraprocessed Foods
« on: September 11, 2022, 01:26:26 AM »
Highly processed foods will kill you.

Sugars, preservatives (there are so many of them), emulsifiers, low grade carbs, gums, plasticizers, trans-fats - these are the killing ingredients that are found in great quantities in highly processed foods.

Saturated fats and dietary cholesterol have been found not to be the evil things we used to think they were.  Eggs, butter, cream and cheese (if you don't have dairy issues) won't kill you like sugar or starch will.  Body fat is created by the assimilation of triglycerides via insulin.  Triglycerides are created by the body in the processing of simple carbohydrates like sugars.  Starches are broken down into sugars very early in the digestive process.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Queen
« on: September 08, 2022, 11:10:31 PM »
The Queen is dead.  Long live the King!

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The Blatant Lies of National Geographic
« on: September 08, 2022, 07:33:30 PM »
That was one poorly done experiment.  It really is quite astonishing that National Geographic actually let this get published.

National Geographic has been declining over time, but I had no idea they had sunk to these depths.

Heck, I'll even get on the band wagon to have them pull this rubbish.  All it shows is there can be variable refraction over water.  It certainly does not demonstrate the earth's curvature.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Liz Truss
« on: September 08, 2022, 01:55:11 AM »
Yeah, charisma can take on many forms, lots of which are agressive, dangerous and malignant.  Hitler (bomb!!).

Yet it is not a requirement to be a competent world level leader.  Angela Merkel comes immediately to mind.

I hope Truss does not disappoint, or at least does not totally fuck up..   The UK needs a competent  leader for a while.  It has been without for some time.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Liz Truss
« on: September 07, 2022, 02:35:34 PM »
So, what the consensus on her?

It seems she has very little support from either the people of the UK or her party.  Given that it looks like she will have a rough ride.  Is she up to it?

Yeah, with all due respect, BillO, you're the one who's misinterpreting others' intentions here.
That's clearly not the case Pete.  I would say it is actually opposite to that.

Like I said.  This happened to me.  I lost my career due to a change in technology.  I know what this feels like personally.

Literally no one is saying this change is not going to happen.
Literally no one said that anyone said that either.
Apparently though it seems I'm the only one looking down the road.  Change is nigh.  It's gong to happen.  Saying that is not diminishing the issue, it's facing it.

holy shit, why does it feel like you're gaslighting me? WHERE IS THE READING COMPREHENSION

1. we know the change is going to happen. that was never the point anyone was making.
2. it sucks for people who will lose work over this; whether that's today, tomorrow, or five years from now

You keep disagreeing with me and saying I'm an idealist or that we're running and screaming for the hills. But it doesn't really seem like we're disagreeing about anything other than you having a sunny disposition about it likely because you don't understand the scope of what digital artists do. Literally all it takes is a little bit of empathy and seeing that artists are already upset about it.

Will people find new jobs? Yes, fucking obviously because like you mentioned this is happening to all of us. Hopefully one day we will be in a position to not have to rely on employment to survive like xasop said earlier. But can we still acknowledge it might suck for artists until that time? YES
You just have to be in disagreement with me, don't you.

I'm not gaslighting anyone.  When I said I'm the only one looking down the road I meant I don't see this as the immediate problem everyone else seems to see.  The only difference between what I'm saying and what you are saying is the the time scale.  I don't think this means graphic artists (digital or otherwise) are going to be marched out onto the street en masse.  As I already said, I think some will loose their jobs and of course it will suck for them (I never said otherwise), but it's not going to be everyone and certainly not the droves some seem to think it will be.  Others will continue in their jobs because they are valued by good employers, others will move on to something else (like I did) before being put out of work.  I also think there will be plenty of time for those that were considering going into graphic arts as a career to make the change to something else.

You are all so fond of reminding me of how old I am.  Well, again, like I already said I've real life experience with this.  Plus I have seen it happen many times in the past.   Yes, it sucks.  It will suck every time it happens and it will happen again, and again..

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