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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why earth is flat

« on: December 03, 2015, 10:31:49 PM »

  The fact so many "photos" of NASA are clearly photoshopped, pasted and fake or paintings is also more evidence they are hiding the true earth from us.

'Fact' & 'clearly' do not go together.
Go to NASA and read. When NASA originally started to release images, most found them confusing (all those greys and whites on a 2d plane), so they announced that they were enhancing the images prior to release to make them easier for others to understand. The originals are usually available as well. They also freely admit that they are enhancing images based on math and theory. They are showing what they think it is like. Anyone is free to grab the originals and enhance them themselves and see the results.

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Flat Earth Media / Re: Illustrations for Education Purposes

« on: December 03, 2015, 07:53:24 PM »

For any that are confused by findings like this, and rely only on observation, there is an easy way to see for yourself.
Go out and build something that has a foundation. Once you actually build things, you understand how structures are built. Then you will understand why there are no 'humps', 'hills', 'mountains', or anything else in the center.

For a bridge like this or any other, if you were to build it; would you measure from the seabed to the surface and start designing there? Or would you just jump in and start building willy-nilly?
Me? I would start with the height of the water, go into future projections, etc. As said above, a bridge is built piece by piece, not in one shot and put in place. The seabed is not uniform.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Oscar Pistorius

« on: December 03, 2015, 07:50:57 PM »

Just got overturned and is now convicted of murder and looking at min of 15 years

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: End of the earth

« on: December 03, 2015, 04:54:34 PM »

If you want to study, click the Home button up there, click the Library button and dive in.
When you head out to learn from someone on the internet, it often comes with a bigoted viewpoint, most are selling other theories at the same time and they get all wrapped up in each other.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Islam and Flat Earth

« on: December 03, 2015, 04:48:24 PM »

I think it will be difficult to find 'proof'. Like any other religion, the book is interpreted differently by different people. Some taught/teach & some don't, it depends on their belief system.
Did christianity ever 'actively' teach that the earth was/is flat? Some places, sure. But as a whole? No.
How many believe that 'the four corners of the earth' means a flat earth, or means the four points of the compass? 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Eric Dubay shot us down

« on: December 03, 2015, 04:44:03 AM »

He is crumbling. Most of his online haunts have either been deleted or highjacked from him. ProBoards will probably delete his forum in the next couple of months and Wordpress will probably follow.
Also goes by Eric Michael(s).

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Technology & Information / Re: Computers are a conspiracy

« on: December 02, 2015, 11:04:51 PM »

Well, good thing it was my opinion and not a sweeping generalization, and it is maybe a good thing that many engineers feel the same way. IBM's brain cell chipsets are moving away but not really.

I will bow out now, but leave this, maybe you can interpret and apply it elsewhere:

If you were to ask 100 people what the main thing is that their body needs to survive; 99% will answer either food or water. If asked again, 99% will switch to the other from the first answer. If you keep asking, eventually about 80% will answer air. Without breathing, food and water are a moot point.
A CPU that does not interpret, compile, and reinterpret, is a moot point in most computing systems. Most systems would never boot.

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Technology & Information / Re: Is TOR no longer anonymous?

« on: December 02, 2015, 10:15:00 PM »

http://www.wired.com/2014/08/operation_torpedo/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/11/07/how-did-law-enforcement-break-tor/
2 links from last year, but was originally done in a closed system years ago, then was tried in real, and was a little successful. Dread from Silk Road got lazy a second time and got caught, not much more than that. It can take up to 6 months to setup a TOR hidden service that will stay hidden. Most give up on the third step and release a partially hidden service.

I use TOR daily and it auto-updates since that is how to foil the feds at this point. Maybe you should read about correct downloading and usage of TOR. If used correctly, even your ISP will not know what browser you are using to connect to their network.

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Technology & Information / Re: Computers are a conspiracy

« on: December 02, 2015, 10:02:20 PM »

A CPU is made up of 3 parts.
A request is made. The CPU interprets the language and compiles the request, it then figures out what the wanted function is. (This is no longer discussed, but still works this way. We don't have magic. We are only 2 steps from BASiC, if that.)
Then the ALU computes and figures out if more is needed. If writing to memory is required, it is then sent to the CU to be written to memory. The CPU interprets every request coming in and reinterprets again on the way out.

You can use all types of interpreters; but if you know about languages you know that the outside interpreter does not end with the same language a CPU uses internally.
The number one and two functions of a CPU is 1-interpret, 2-compile.
A CPU is constantly compiling and interpreting. The interpreting is where the most inefficiency is on a board in my opinion.

As for multi-core processors; there is almost no consumer programs that take advantage of more than 2 processors, and very few that use 2. The 'need' for increasing speeds is a bit of a fallacy. The time it takes to get the info and display it is mostly nil. SSD takes care of needed increased speeds, since the HD is where speed is killed.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In the Name of Progression & Unity

« on: December 01, 2015, 11:11:56 PM »

I have to agree with some of the ways Eric Dubay runs his site. There's only one thing that stops me from posting over there, and that is his anti-religion protocol. As a long time dedicated study of theology for 30 years, I'm unable to make posts that don't occasionally quote God's Word - it's just the way I think. Hence I already know it would be pointless to begin an account there, only to be kicked out within the first week because it's not the Dubay-way.

You may want to do some research. ED quotes scripture quite often. He is all over the web taking opposite sides with different names. He is a hypocrite. All he is trying to do is make money as a 'alternative news writer', like his heroes. I seriously doubt he believes in FET.

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Technology & Information / Re: Computers are a conspiracy

« on: December 01, 2015, 06:32:41 PM »

Who says a rock is inanimate?
Computers don't 'think' or 'reason' unless they are programmed to mimic those actions.
Wizards at Intel?!? That must mean that Fairchild had Warlocks!

What do you mean computers don't think and reason?  My computer is clearly good enough at it that it can realize that I am pushing keys and use logic and reason to determine that what I am pressing should show up on screen based on a set of written instructions that are written in English albeit in a strange way.  We are supposed to believe that this is done because of a bunch of little 1's and 0's floating around in a silicon chip that nobody can seem to explain for the life of them.

I don't believe that there are wizards at Intel, but you clearly do since you dogmatically believe that they can produce a magical silicon chip that can think and reason.

Well, all the christians and whatnot of the world will surely thank you for figuring out 'spirits' talk in 1s and 0s

I'm guessing more of lack of oxygen in the womb

I'm guessing that where ever it is you live, it's the equivalent of the 1st of April, or someone swapped your meds for smarties.

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Technology & Information / Re: Computers are a conspiracy

« on: December 01, 2015, 02:04:03 AM »

Care to enlighten us about how a little silicon square locked away under a case can think and reason?

I'll quote myself to answer this.

Who says a rock is inanimate?
Computers don't 'think' or 'reason' unless they are programmed to mimic those actions.
Wizards at Intel?!? That must mean that Fairchild had Warlocks!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Why can't you see Great Britain from New York on a flat earth

« on: December 01, 2015, 01:35:52 AM »

You posed a question: can one see Great Britain from New York?

Why not increase the difficulty of the problem: can Tunguska be seen from London?

Of course it can.




JULY 1, 1908 LETTER SENT TO THE LONDON TIMES

http://www.nuforc.org/GNTungus.html

“TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES.”

“Sir,--I should be interested in hearing whether others of your readers observed the strange light in the sky which was seen here last night by my sister and myself. I do not know when it first appeared; we saw it between 12 o’clock (midnight) and 12:15 a.m.  It was in the northeast and of a bright flame-colour like the light of sunrise or sunset.  The sky, for some distance above the light, which appeared to be on the horizon, was blue as in the daytime, with bands of light cloud of a pinkish colour floating across it at intervals.  Only the brightest stars could be seen in any part of the sky, though it was an almost cloudless night.  It was possible to read large print indoors, and the hands of the clock in my room were quite distinct.  An hour later, at about 1:30 a.m., the room was quite light, as if it had been day; the light in the sky was then more dispersed and was a fainter yellow.  The whole effect was that of a night in Norway at about this time of year.  I am in the habit of watching the sky, and have noticed the amount of light indoors at different hours of the night several times in the last fortnight.  I have never at any time seen anything the least like this in England, and it would be interesting if any one would explain the cause of so unusual a sight.

Yours faithfully,
Katharine Stephen.
Godmanchester, Huntingdon, July 1.”


Let us remember that the first newspaper report about the explosion itself ONLY appeared on July 2, 1908 in the Sibir periodical.


A report from Berlin in the New York Times of July 3 stated: 'Remarkable lights were observed in the northern heavens on Tuesday and Wednesday nights, the bright diffused white and yellow illumination continuing through the night until it disappeared at dawn...'

On July 5, (1908) a New York Times story from Britain was entitled: 'Like Dawn at Midnight.' '...The northern sky at midnight became light blue, as if the dawn were breaking...people believed that a big fire was raging in the north of London...shortly after midnight, it was possible to read large print indoors...it would be interesting if anyone would explain the cause of so unusual a sight.'


The letter sent by Mrs. Katharine Stephen is absolutely genuine as it includes details NOBODY else knew at the time: not only the precise timing of the explosion itself (7:15 - 7:17 local time, 0:15 - 0:17 London time), BUT ALSO THE DURATION OF THE TRAJECTORY OF THE OBJECT, right before the explosion, a fact uncovered decades later only by the painstaking research of Dr. Felix Zigel, an aerodynamics professor at the Moscow Institute of Aviation:


The same opinion was reached by Felix Zigel, who as an aerodynamics professor at the Moscow Institute of Aviation has been involved in the training of many Soviet cosmonauts. His latest study of all the eyewitness and physical data convinced him that "before the blast the Tunguska body described in the atmosphere a tremendous arc of about 375 miles in extent (in azimuth)" - that is, it "carried out a maneuver." No natural object is capable of such a feat.



Manotskov decided that the 1908 object, on the other hand, had a far slower entry speed and that, nearing the earth, it reduced its speed to "0.7 kilometers per second, or 2,400 kilometers per hour" - less than half a mile per second.

375 miles = 600 km, or 15 minutes of flight time, given the speed exemplified above

I do not know when it first appeared; we saw it between 12 o’clock (midnight) and 12:15 a.m.


LeMaire maintains the "accident-explanation is untenable" because "the flaming object was being expertly navigated" using Lake Baikal as a reference point. Indeed, Lake Baikal is an ideal aerial navigation reference point being 400 miles long and about 35 miles wide. LeMaire's description of the course of the Tunguska object lends credence to the thought of expert navigation:

The body approached from the south, but when about 140 miles from the explosion point, while over Kezhma, it abruptly changed course to the east. Two hundred and fifty miles later, while above Preobrazhenka, it reversed its heading toward the west. It exploded above the taiga at 60º55' N, 101º57' E (LeMaire 1980).




The fight path of the cosmic object, as reconstructed from eyewitness testimony and ballistic wave evidence. Felix Zigel and other space experts agree that, prior to exploding, the object changed from an eastward to a westward direction over the Stony Tunguska region. The arc at the bottom of the map indicates the scope of the area where witnesses either saw the fiery object or heard the blast.


The information acquired by the Florensky and Zolotov expeditions about the ballistic shock effect on the trees provides a strong basis, in some scientists' view, for a reconstruction of an alteration in the object's line of flight. In the terminal phase of its descent, according to the most recent speculations, the object appears to have approached on an eastward course, then changed course westward over the region before exploding. The ballistic wave evidence, in fact, indicates that some type of flight correction was performed in the atmosphere.

UFOs/Jet aircrafts/V2 rockets were invented by the Vril society, only after 1936.


Tesla had a bold fantasy whereby he would use the principle of rarefied gas luminescence to light up the sky at night. High frequency electric energy would be transmitted, perhaps by an ionizing beam of ultraviolet radiation, into the upper atmosphere, where gases are at relatively low pressure, so that this layer would behave like a luminous tube. Sky lighting, he said, would reduce the need for street lighting, and facilitate the movement of ocean going vessels.



A photograph with an exposure time of 20 seconds taken at 10.50 p.m., July 1, 1908 by George Embrey of Gloucester.



The telluric currents/ether/subquark-magnetic monopoles strings transmitted the energy input from the Tesla ball lightning spheres which exploded over Siberia (Tunguska):  this is how the bright luminescence in the night skies of Europe and Central Asia was created.


If the light from the Sun could not reach London due to curvature and/or any light reflection phenomena, then certainly NO LIGHT from an explosion which occurred at some 7 km altitude in the atmosphere could have been seen at all, at the same time, on a spherical earth.


Tunguska file:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,59690.msg1537115.html#msg1537115

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=59690.msg1535846#msg1535846 (no comet, meteorite, or asteroid)


Tesla - Tunguska:

http://www.teslasociety.com/tunguska.htm
http://www.tfcbooks.com/articles/tunguska.htm

Geo-magnetic disturbances were already observed even before the explosion!!

Many years later, researchers from Tomsk came across a forgotten publication by a Professor Weber about a powerful geo-magnetic disturbance observed in a laboratory at Kiel University in Germany for three days before the intrusion of the Tunguska object, and which ended at the very hour when the gigantic bolide exploded above the Central Siberian Plateau.


Tesla experimented with the ball lightning ether for YEARS before the Tunguska event; from the Wardenclyffe tower he sent longitudinal waves for days BEFORE the event itself in order to carefully set up the experiment.

So if you actually read the letter to the London Times, it clearly states that they saw a light in the sky. It was caused by  a possible explosion in the sky. How could this possibly answer or even attempt to answer whether Tunguska can be seen from London?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: What if I applied to become an astronaut?

« on: November 30, 2015, 11:29:13 PM »

NASA is accepting applications to be an astronaut.  What do you flat earthers think would happen if someone with all the qualifications applied?  How would they know that you wouldn't blow the whistle?

NASA isn't really 'hiring astronauts'. They are gathering people to experiment a long time space travel.
You won't be coming back to whistle blow.

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Technology & Information / Re: On the notion of Ubuntu

« on: November 30, 2015, 11:26:38 PM »

is that a Linux distro' ?

Yes, it is a distro.

i'v been using UBUNTU....what is yr opinion of that?[/color][/font]

You are still an irrelevant racist dragging down the good name of a Linux distro.

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Technology & Information / Re: Is TOR no longer anonymous?

« on: November 30, 2015, 11:22:54 PM »

If used correctly from initial download through use, it will keep you anonymous. Even more so if Tails is used.
I think about 7 years ago the FBI was able to theoretically trace a connection if they could get a tracker installed before the jump to nodes. They got it to work in a closed system. TOR responded by making updates automatic, since the FBI had actually compromised an out of date version.
The FBI was still not able to actually 'track' the user, but could see where they began and where they ended.

To add something: Do not listen to those that also say PGP is compromised. There is no evidence of that; and if it had been compromised, why would the FBI and NSA make such a big deal about needing the keys? It will be cracked one day, but most non-free services have moved far beyond basic PGP.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Very interesting FE experiement

« on: November 30, 2015, 10:42:30 PM »

Has anybody heard of or been able to reproduce this experiment? The implications are staggering.

https://www.facebook.com/100008896901875/videos/1479554505684432/

Has anybody been able to figure out what this 'experiment' is supposed to prove?

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Very interesting FE experiement

« on: November 30, 2015, 10:34:44 PM »

Yes they have - https://youtu.be/9ZEdApyi9Vw

A bit more interesting than a balloon floating on the surface of a sink full of water...

Have you reproduced this yourself?

Why would you need to? Observing an experiment is not any less informative than performing the experiment.

Have you heard of YouTube? It is a website of videos. There are scores of videos featuring experiments which are then gotten utterly wrong by those that 'observe' the experiment.

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Technology & Information / Re: Computers are a conspiracy

« on: November 30, 2015, 10:11:23 PM »

This sounds a lot like something I put on the flat Earth society as a joke...  I am at a loss for words, I didn't know that this level of ignorence was possible.

Says shillman7918.  I bet you were secretly revealing the truth without your boss noticing.  Do you buy into the Intel propaganda mike?

Do you believe Intel invented the CPU?

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Technology & Information / Re: Computers are a conspiracy

« on: November 30, 2015, 10:02:37 PM »

A CPU is a compiler, there is a mountain of documents that explain how they work. [/quote]
No.  A CPU is a very sophisticated calculator that executes instructions to perform binary math and logic operations.

A compiler that interprets different languages, compiles the requests, either does the calculation or sends it off to another component to do the calculation(s). Then uncompiles and sends the information out in another language.

No.  A CPU is a very sophisticated calculator that executes instructions to perform binary math and logic operations.

But isn't a calculator a type of computer?  Are you telling me that the inside of the Intel mystery chip of magic is a tiny calculator, and inside of the calculator's CPU is another calculator?  Oh, this is priceless.

Do you really believe that Intel invented the CPU?
Is ya a dumby or just too young to know better?

And if 'spirits' run modern computers; what ran the Babbage machine?