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You also don't see Bush contending for the GOP nomination.Jeb had his prime, even if it didn't end so well. So, uh, yeah, you do see Bush contending for the GOP nomination.
going west on a flat earth would always be a STRAIGHT LINE going west foreverYour definition of "west" is bizarre, as it seems to imply a single, static direction. Your idea of "west" seems to suggest that, on a round Earth, you would have to lift off and eventually exit the Earth's gravity, since, after all, you would logically be walking in a straight line!
Oh but you really have. I find foreign names with weird strings of letters funny, sometimes hilarious (I laughed out loud when I saw your real name for the first time, for example) and I never realized until now what a horrible person that makes me. I see now, American comedy has firm roots in racism and John Oliver is no better than a 1940s minstrel show.Another victory for common sense and reason; although I feel like you're denigrating minstrel shows here by comparing them to John Oliver. You still have much to learn.
I've always found "Bush" kind of humourous, mainly because it sounds like it'd be a sound effect for punching in either the '60s Batman or the comics.And yet you don't see hashtag campaigns demanding that Bush changes his surname to something else to make it more or less "funny".
Can we just agree to disagree and move on?But calling liberals racist is hilarious.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/us/politics/donald-trump-losing-ground-tries-to-blame-the-system.htmlMeh. The two main parties in America are private entities and they can do whatever the heck they want. It was always an innate risk associated with that structure. However, as far as I understand, there's nothing stopping Trump/Sanders from running as independents, and if the system truly is rigged, they should stand a good chance to succeed (and perhaps change the system while they're at it)
For it to be -phobic, it must by definition, be driven by fear.You're being overly restrictive. While most -phobias are indeed defined by fear, words such as homophobia and xenophobia have clearly evolved past that constraint. A dislike or prejudice are sufficient, it doesn't have to be rooted in fear.
wouldn't the joke be just as funny/sensical if, hypothetically, the name 'drumpf' was an english name? how would the bit be any different?Hypothetically, yes; but that ignores like half of society. You wouldn't find an English name that sounds like something something being slapped across the face with wet money???, because you're already familiar with English names. The unfamiliarity is pretty much required for the joke to work. (And likely the reason why I'm not finding it funny no matter how hard I squint my eyes - I don't find German names to be unfamiliar or uncommon)
Onomatopoeia can easily be another explanation, which is the reason John Oliver offers, so why do you dismiss that out of hand?I don't dismiss it - I simply point out that it's completely irrelevant. The explanations of "German names are funny" and "German names are funny because they sound like farting noises or whatever" both share the same element of xenophobia.
You have to work really hard to assign racism to what Oliver said, really hard. But the master hair splitter has put in that work, and it’s a marvel. Missing/twisting the point is an art form only this boy has the motivation to master, or perhaps I am being ungenerous, and when he says “I don’t get it” maybe this is the case, humour (going on every post of his I’ve read) does seems an alien concept (racism?).Ah yes, another fantastic response of the "it's just a prank bro!!!!" variety. Thank you for your excellent contribution.
So, the site with a Zetetic council board cannot at all tell me anything about Zeteticism?Have you considered finding out what the Zetetic Council is before saying this? Because it's a very silly thing to say.
Yes, we find many foreign names humorous sounding. If you want to argue there's insidious racism motivating that you are entitled to your opinion
lol you're currently pretending to be offended by something just to stick it to someone.I'm not really offended. I'm just not a fan of making fun of people's nationalities, much less a fan of "haunting" someone with the nationality of their forefathers 4 centuries ago.
ok...i'll let oliver speak for himself:Okay, so he'd make another joke about how funny and German his name is. I don't see where you're going with this.
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i'm going to make up a name: boof. i've never heard this name before, and if it's real, then i have no idea where it comes from. the joke is exactly the same if you replace drumpf with boof:
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the origin of the name is irrelevant. drumpf, like boof, is an onomatopoeia. that's the joke. the joke doesn't work with any funny sounding name. it that's drumpf is an onomatopoeia. for example, bumgarner is a really funny sounding german name, but the joke wouldn't make sense at all using that name.
which people? people who aren't offended by the john oliver bit?People who pretend to care about discrimination, but are happy to discriminate when it suits them. As I said: pick a side.
if the clintons used to be the comptons, i would think that was p funny. would you not? that's a funny juxtaposition.I don't get it.
the problem here is that you're all bothered about things you just assume i must believe and not what i've actually said.Actually, I was criticising Saddam and Rushy. You just kind of rocked up and assumed I'm talking about you. It's probably because you're so easily offen-
you think liberals are too easily offended, and of course i must be liberal [...]oh
Of course I present good arguments or make sarcastic remarks about your cherry picked "proofs," I am a writer.Fantastic. What does your day job/hobby have to do with anything?
Your argument comes down to YOUR links are gold and everyone else's are at best unreliable.I said no such thing.
Wiki FE HAS been shredded. and your response is "LOL"lol
Online booking for lights from Sydney to Chile are declared fake.What? Whoever told you that was wrong.
And the fact that there are no online sites complaining about flight scams or Antartica trip scams are still not, in your La La Land, proof that such trips and flights are NOT scams?Correct. Just because something isn't on the Internet doesn't mean it's false. What on Earth made you think otherwise?
1. Online sites for booking Antartica Trips are scams, as anyone can build a website.I said no such thing.
2. The lack websites saying online booking of Antartica Trips are not proof that point 1 is false.Correct, see above.
3. You don't believe there would be an out cry over sites/organizations that promise a service but don't deliver. Me? If I wanted to run that Antarctic Half Marathon and saved up $12+ grand and couldn't get a booking, I be pissed off and start checking, then start talking to the media and posting every place I could. And I would NOT be alone, every runner I know would join me. It'd be all over the news in DAYS.Can you at least find some people who managed to make a booking? If not, how do you know anyone got scammed to begin with?
I understand, you need to believe even if it means ignoring all common sense and math and geometry and history and well everything that is real.I have yet to state my beliefs to you - please refrain from assuming, especially if you're trying to pull off the "I'm not a blind believer" argument.
change 'germay' to any other country and the joke is exactly as funny. change 'drumpf' to 'muller' and the joke doesn't make any sense at all.Look, this may make super perfect sense to you, but I'm not a xenophobe, so you may have to spell it out for me. The name "Drumpf" sounds like any other German name. The joke doesn't make any sense at all regardless of what name or country you pick1 -- unless you accept the axiom that foreign names are somehow funny.
it's not about germany. it's about the name 'drumpf' sounding dumb.Explain how it sounds dumb without invoking nationalities or native languages. In other words, explain it without invoking xenophobia.
he even uses the word onomatopoeia to describe why it's funny.Damn, he must be so educated and smart. Too bad he's still a bigoted asshole.
the ABSENCE of complaints about fake websites is not proof that links for booking trips to Antartica is real.Correct.
You understand you are not real. Someone has hacked your unreality to fake the unreal unyou online. So all your post are all unreal and unbelievable.Aaand now you're babbling. Congratuations!
Yet you believe FET Wiki. You need help.Are you capable of presenting an argument that isn't a fallacy?
There are ways to validate the voracity of a website. Snopes for one. Another is to Google Antartica Trip Scams. ZERO hits.So your idea to validate a website is to look for another website that confirms it. What's there to stop me from launching two websites? Do things become true once I wrote about them on two websites? No? How about three? A hundred?
It sounds like you are saying context and intention have no effect on the meaning of a communication.No, I'm saying that xenophobic jokes are still xenophobic, regardless of being jokes. "It's just a joke lol!" is a very poor excuse if you're trying to criticise someone else for their (alleged) xenophobia.
Nope FE Wiki has, on these boards been shredded, with math and geometry and science.lol
You on the other hand made a blanket statement about the links I posted without one shred of evidence that they are fake.I didn't say they're fake, I said they're worthless. They are of no value to the argument, since they provide no testable content. They merely state that things exist - whether or not they actually do is a completely separate matter.
Guess ya'll better quit sending us to the Wiki then.Please, at least get your y'alls right. You'll look ever so slightly less idiotic.
But hey they are in on the secret too, and that makes them liars. Got it. All Physicist, all surveyors, all pilots, all ship navigators and captains, all sailboat owners, all math and science teachers in every country on the planet. They are ALL in on it. Got it.Nah, you're just lying because you think people on the Internet will take you seriously if you do. You'll grow out of it in a few years.
the USGov kills people attempting to get Antartica?You realise that anyone can make a website about virtually anything they want, and that "I saw it on the Internet!!!" is not an acceptable piece of evidence, right?
Well someone better tell this group http://www.marathontours.com/index.cfm?pid=10734
And this company http://www.expeditions.com/destinations/antarctica/
John Oliver is a comedian.That's a rather generous description.
The Drumpf thing was a joke. I wouldn't be the least surprised if it was intended to be a riff on the Donald's xenophobic attitude. It is funny to me that a conservative columnist , not to mention some people here, are taking it so seriously.What conservative columnist?
Yes, we find many foreign names humorous sounding. If you want to argue there's insidious racism motivating that you are entitled to your opinion, but I rather doubt it's something that is specific to Americans.I mean, given Americans' general level of awareness regarding the outside world, there's plenty of reason to suspect that you finding German names funny is rooted in xenophobia, and that it's specific to Americans.
i'm only suggesting that americans are even dumber than you give us credit.Fair enough.
To the fickle American electorate, "Drumpf" does sound silly, just as "Trump" sounds impressive. Even if you disagree, that was Oliver's argument.I'm seeing a trend here. "Ratzinger" sounds funny, as is "Drumpf". Are you sure you (or the fickle American electorate) don't just find German names hilarious? If so, how can you argue that this stems from anything other than blatant xenophobia? Dummköpfe.
americans arent well versed in 19th century german surnamesYou're looking at the 17th century here. Yes, it's that petty. John Oliver is making fun of someone for changing their surname nearly 400 years ago.
Please elaborate on the concept of a parachute... If someone uses a parachute to drop from a plain, what actually should happen is that the fall would remain the same speed regardless of the fraction and "push" force generated on the parachute.The air does indeed accelerate together with the Earth, being pushed up by it. The effect of the parachute is generated by the air resistance or drag.
I Thought maybe the concept here might be the the inertia of earth is pushing air up thus making the parachute to be pushed up making the illusion of "falling" slowly.. but i'm not quite convinced with this theory
Please elaborate on the concept of two objects tied one to another with a rope while the rope is fixed to something in the middle. if indded the gravity was the movement of earth up, still the two object will create the illusion of falling down in parallel lines yet the reality is that both object will be pulled to one another by the rope which physically proves that there is a force pulling the object down rather than being pushed towards the objects.I'm not sure how you reached this conclusion. Perhaps you could elaborate further so we can try and find the error? The observed effect would be identical both in a gravity and a universal acceleration scenario.