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Flat Earth Projects / Re: Untrustworthy quotation in the wiki
« on: December 01, 2021, 12:08:25 AM »
This is a better documented sample of flat earth believers, in Brazil.

of 2,086 respondents, 7% held flat earth belief. 3% said they didn't know. Extrapolated to the whole country that's still 11 million flat earthers. According to Brazilian articles it's because of strict religious fundamentalism.

The whole reason they believe that the Earth is flat is because the bible says:
1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”
Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”
Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

The belief that gravity is caused by a universal upwards acceleration at 1g or 5.8m/s would probably be rejected by religion-based flat earthers.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is beyond the south pole?
« on: November 30, 2021, 09:39:22 PM »
Here is some ample evidence against the claim that nobody has been to Antarctica, and should be easily disproven if a flat earther could find the 'real' Mount Vinson (highest peak in Antarctica). Too many people on social media have climbed this mountain recently enough for it to be fake. How do you fake a whole mountain? The footage (and there are dozens and dozens more videos I haven't linked) clearly show how transit to central Antarctica is achieved.

What I don't get is that given all the fascinating and ground breaking investigations that science in general and modern astronomy is now working on, there are people in this world who would rather spend their time role playing as if they are people who lived generations ago by arguing about what shape the Earth is. Something that we actually worked out a long, long time ago.  Time to move on!

It's people who think they are much more clever than career scientists and academics, ironically despite knowing less than a learning impaired child. 

Plus, believing that the world is flat gives you the chance to feel persecuted for your beliefs every time someone calls you an idiot. A victim-complex can paradoxically feel empowering, fringe conspiracy beliefs are perfectly situated to exploit this funny part of our psychology.

Flat Earth Community / Re: If you could go to space, would you?
« on: October 14, 2021, 02:11:05 PM »
I think it's imperative that we begin space resource extraction as quickly as possible. Natural resources on Earth will become depleted, and the ecosystem destroyed unless we find another way.

We should establish O'Neill Cylinder colonies adjacent to 16-Psyche to manage mining and manufacturing operations. Another Cylinder colony adjacent to Titan basically serving as the solar system's gas station.

Well, he wanted to be in the control group for the grand vaccine 'experiment', I hope he's content with the results.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: October 04, 2021, 11:30:43 PM »


Flat Earth Theory / Re: Will Inspiration4 convince Flat Earth believers?
« on: October 04, 2021, 08:12:46 PM »
If Flat Earthers don't even believe in the loooooong history of rocket launches to space, and think the whole thing is a hoax, then why would Inspiration4 mission change their mind? People could be living on Mars and there would still be Flat Earthers who claim Mars is not real and that space is fake.

Inspiration4 is just another blip on this graph that is denied wholesale by Flat Earthers.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Civilians in Space
« on: September 20, 2021, 06:33:16 PM »
There is no more proof that humans flew on this SpaceX flight than there is any evidence supporting the concept of humans travelling via airplane.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: The Taliban Won
« on: August 16, 2021, 02:36:33 PM »
Seems like this is a good thing to me. The problem with 9/11 was that the US couldn't just bomb Afganistan infrastructure because the terrorists who did it weren't actually running the country. Now that they are, they can deal with the terrorists on a national war-like level.

This is the worst take I have ever heard and it could only have come from a flat earther. I suppose anti-intellectualism thinks alike.

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 30, 2021, 08:45:05 PM »

If an authority is giving you instructions to do something, you are being pressured to do it.

Do you wear a seatbelt, because the government is pressuring you into doing it, or do you wear a seatbelt because it might save your life?

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 30, 2021, 06:51:56 PM »
Considering the pandemic is now almost exclusively ripping through the unvaccinated crowd, we're literally watching Darwinism happen in real time. People who are so low-IQ that they continue to be anti-vaxx or even vaxx-skeptical to this day are being systematically pruned from the gene pool.

If natural disasters are acts of god, then mRNA biotechnology innovations being invented in the short time before COVID hit is nothing short of divine intervention as far as I am concerned. It allowed for a vaccine to be developed in record time and measurably prevented a war's worth of death and suffering. For anti-vaxxers, anti-maskers, and COVID deniers to get sick from a disease they have constantly underplayed, despite 4.2 million global deaths, and rejecting what could very well have been an olive branch from God himself - dying of COVID and then being mocked for your tweets seems like a fitting hell.

Doesn't the Bible explicitly warn Christians of false prophets, in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves? How else do you explain fervent and vocal anti-vaxx activists whose rhetoric is leading people on a straight shot path to illness, disability, death and suffering??

Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Coronavirus Vaccine and You
« on: July 23, 2021, 11:05:06 PM »
If you've ever eaten fast food, it's hypocritical to be anti-vax, since that burger patty contains just as much animal vaccine, growth hormone, and antibiotic substances than you could ever fit in half a milliliter of vaccine.

Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon size. Calculation and confirmation.
« on: July 23, 2021, 06:10:40 PM »

The moon is 2,159.2 miles across.

I see that you've marked some of the Antarctic points of interest, like McMurdo and Casey Station. Where would you mark the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station on your map?

To get there typically you'd fly from New Zealand, going from Christchurch -> McMurdo Station -> Amundsen-Scott.

However, there are also flights that go from Punta Arenas, Chile -> Union Glacier Camp -> Amundsen-Scott.

Flat Earth Community / Re: Religion for flat earthers
« on: July 14, 2021, 05:11:10 PM »
Prominent and powerful Flat Earthers have typically been motivated by the Bible. For example, this guy:
Rowbotham was a super Christian and was motivated by proving the Bible true by proving Flat Earth true.

Christianity and Flat Earth theory are pretty much intrinsically connected, athiest Flat Earthers are probably in the minority.

If you're an athiest and if you have any formal education at all, you likely believe in the natural, emergentist structure of reality (ie. quarks < atoms < molecules < proteins < cells < complex life < psychology < sociology < ...) and of the cosmos (moons < planets < stars < solar neighborhoods < galaxies < galaxy clusters < supercluster filaments)

Flat Earth doesn't exactly fit in with the emergentist view of the universe at all.

that was incredible...   electric universe, lol.

It's kind of cool when you realize.. it's exactly the same thing happening on the inside of a neon sign, which is basically electrified gas, except in our case, it's electricity from the sun energizing high altitude oxygen and nitrogen! If the atmosphere were full of neon instead, the aurora would be an epic bright red, if Xenon or Krypton, a cool white/grey.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 10, 2021, 08:15:46 PM »
One of the original "Rocket hits the Dome" YT posters, after some research, posted a follow-up way back when that shows the yoyo de-spin tech employed and the recovered rocket, without and dents, damage or any evidence of smacking into a dome.

Love the use of footage from cameras strapped to weak hobby rockets being proof of a dome, when there is plenty of rocket-cam footage out there showing no such dome-impact. The creator of that video seriously suggests that rocket is the highest and fastest amateur rocket ever launched? That's hilarious.

Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !
« on: July 10, 2021, 08:08:52 PM »
Virgin Galactic is a glorified high-altitude plane. A marginally less suicidal version of what Mike Hughes died doing.

Aurora Borealis from the ISS is also stunning

Technology & Information / China Space Station
« on: July 07, 2021, 08:36:12 AM »
China's independent space station is finally up and running, and they are releasing a ton of interesting youtube content to go with it.

How does the conspiracy theory evolve with the fact that, in spite of being blackballed by NASA at every step of participation, has caught up to the space-station building stage of its space program? Who is the Chinese visionary filmmaker who is spearheading this hoax?

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