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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do sunsets work in a flat earth?
« on: December 23, 2015, 06:17:31 AM »
The earth is flat.
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G+ isn't for close friends. Well, it turned out to not be for that. It turned out to be for connecting to people with like minded interests.That's exactly the type of thing that would make me think they wouldn't want to do this with Facebook.And why would they want to use G+? It's literally the same thing, only less popular.
Incorrect. Hangouts is backed by a large corporation that can put funds into making hangouts a big deal. Its the default messaging app on android and google voice integration is coming with carrier deals.I already did. Parsifal thinks that xmpp has the potential to become a standard. Which is wrong.I don't think you quite understand what "substantiation" is. Nonetheless, what you said is also wrong. GoogleTalkHangouts already had its chance and failed, therefore it clearly can't become popular again. Right? Wrong. The fact that it dipped in popularity means nothing.
Also, given the prominence of Facebook Chat, I would strongly suggest reconsidering your claims about XMPP, even if you intend to leave them unsubstantiated as you did.
I already did. Parsifal thinks that xmpp has the potential to become a standard. Which is wrong.Its no surprise that you think that when someone is right they are wrong and vice versa. I mean you think the earth is flat.And you think e-mails can't be spoofed. Now that we've dealt with random irrelevant crap, would you like to substantiate your point, or are you done?
No I'm not. You are out of your mind. I am right again. Just as the Facebook thread.You're a fool.rofl
ITT: rottingroom is wrong again, doesn't know how to handle it again.
You're a fool.The fact that it had its chance. If you were talking about some new potential standard then you might have a point. We aren't talking about a new standard though. We are talking about an attempt at a standard that the world said bye bye to.
Yes, we've established that. Do you know what a logical connection is?
The fact that it had its chance. If you were talking about some new potential standard then you might have a point. We aren't talking about a new standard though. We are talking about an attempt at a standard that the world said bye bye to.I know what a standard is. If a messaging standard ever comes about it won't be xmpp. Not because it isn't any good but because we tried it, it had its chance and it failed. People are not adopting it, its numbers are dwindling. What you consider good won't ever be much without people using it. You sort of need people to use it for it to be worth anything.
What is the logical connection between "we tried it and it failed" and "it won't become a standard"?
I know what a standard is. If a messaging standard ever comes about it won't be xmpp. Not because it isn't any good but because we tried it, it had its chance and it failed. People are not adopting it, its numbers are dwindling. What you consider good won't ever be much without people using it. You sort of need people to use it for it to be worth anything.Well it doesn't sound like we are having the same conversation then. It'd be nice if there was a standard, you may wish all you want.
I think we are, you just seem to assume that standards come about because someone, somewhere decides that there shall be a standard. No, standards come about because people use them, and the best way to improve the adoption of a standard is to adopt that standard.
You can wish for one thing and do something that achieves the polar opposite if you like. Meanwhile, I will use the things that I think are good.
Yes, I'm well aware that XMPP isn't widely accepted as a standard. That's irrelevant to my claim that it would be a far better standard than anything we have currently. Pointing out that specific apps which implement XMPP aren't popular is missing the point.Well it doesn't sound like we are having the same conversation then. It'd be nice if there was a standard, you may wish all you want.
Sounds like you are trying to have a debate. I'm sorry that I don't care.All the services that were plugging into it have been slowly ditching it for years. I mean, you can use what you want. It's not like I have any interest at all in participating in whatever it is you are doing. I'm just offering an opinion and I like hangouts because it is fast, reliable and easy to access. The video service is second to none and every hangout can be published into a YouTube video as well.Hangouts is on iPhone and Android and you can use it from any computer. It also has hangout video chats which allows up to 10 people to all be videochatting at the same time. The videochat functionality uses Web RTC too which means that nobody has to install any software for it to work.So, in what way is it a more appropriate text messaging platform than XMPP?
That doesn't answer pizaaplanet's question.The messaging in general across the whole internet is getting annoying though. There are too many competing standards and stubborn users who think everyone else should be using the messaging app that they like. Myself included. It's only getting worse too.
Which XMPP solves, since it isn't a "messaging app", but a protocol that any app can implement.
Can you please answer the question now?
All the services that were plugging into it have been slowly ditching it for years. I mean, you can use what you want. It's not like I have any interest at all in participating in whatever it is you are doing. I'm just offering an opinion and I like hangouts because it is fast, reliable and easy to access. The video service is second to none and every hangout can be published into a YouTube video as well.Hangouts is on iPhone and Android and you can use it from any computer. It also has hangout video chats which allows up to 10 people to all be videochatting at the same time. The videochat functionality uses Web RTC too which means that nobody has to install any software for it to work.So, in what way is it a more appropriate text messaging platform than XMPP?
YesThe messaging platform that everyone should be using is hangouts.
No.