But I provided evidence too.
I have repeated your experiment but got very different results. I couldn’t see the beach at all, much less people on it or playing right down the shoreline.
You don’t think we should discuss my evidence and try to understand why I got such different results?
That is nice that you went to the effort to do that. It sounds like the circumstance of your evidence speaks for itself.
That's rich considering how you seem to think all evidence against FET is faked.
I consider NASA's photos of a globe to be evidence. I also consider the evidence that NASA is faking space footage to be evidence.
I see that you didn't even bring that up in your rant. It sounds like only one of us is ignoring evidence here.
You misunderstand me, I'm not ranting and I don't appreciate you claiming as such to diminish my argument. Apologies for the slightly off topic tangent but NASA faking space footage isn't evidence, it's a claim and it's speculation. There are no witnesses, no whistle blowers. Just some people thinking it's not real with silly claims like "where were the stars?" or "shadows are all wrong" the latter being proven a false claim by Nvidia, professionals who analysed and recreated the moon landings using CG recently. A technology I happen to understand well, as I'm also a professional in CGI.
So then why should I believe you, a random person with no credentials making wild claims and speculative accusations based on a preconceived notion that the earth is 'definitely flat' and 'space travel doesn't exist' over professionals who've studied and proven themselves? Your 'evidence' is simply claims, it's not evidence. It's not unfounded, I know you've looked into things and I don't think you're trying to trick anyone, I don't think you're lying. I just think you're incorrect and don't seem realise. I assume you know the Dunning–Kruger effect, basically the less you know, the more you think you know and the more confident you are about your own knowledge. The more you know, the less you think you know and you aren't confident in your own knowledge. I became part of this forum because the more I saw people questioning spheroid earth, the more I realised I didn't know about it and so I set out for answers under the assumption that anything I know or think I know could be wrong. I am trying to learn and understand rather than trying to prove anything but I also find it important to call people out when they spout opinions and incorrect information as correct facts.
You seem extremely sure of yourself and yet time and time again you've shown to be wrong about a lot of things but refuse to acknowledge it. With such an obvious bias, with something to prove, I can't take your speculation as fact or evidence until you prove your findings and publish the data for everyone else to analyse and when you finally do that, you must be able to accept the constructive criticism and feedback you receive from other people who know what they're talking about which is the basic scientific way. Always assume you could be wrong, always try to correct your own bias. Always strive for all knowledge and not just the select information that helps your agenda.
So I say this, you have no proof that will hold up in a court as to whether the earth is flat or round, and you have no proof that NASA faked the moon landings or space travel in general. You have your speculative opinion on the matter which has no standing. On the other hand space agencies have their proof backed up with actual evidence, witnesses and photographic proof. If a fair and unbiased person was presented evidence from you and evidence from an astronaut, they'd win and you'd lose.
I want you to be able to prove yourself because I'm interested in the idea, I'll say again if the earth turned out to be flat, I would have no problem with that. So far though, all real evidence is saying otherwise. You can't just say "but nasa are liars" because that only proves your bias. And it doesn't prove anything against other space agencies, especially when theres footage from Japanese technology like this;
Anyway, again sorry for the off-topic tangent but you just don't seem see it from your perspective Tom. Please show us actual, flawless proof of the flat earth without trying to avoid or ignore everything that proves otherwise. I would like to see your evidence.