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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Tron on December 07, 2022, 07:05:36 PM »
Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side.

So ... when people travel to the South Pole, they go BENEATH the flat earth? On the "other" side?

This isn't hard...  The opposite poles of a flat or spherical earth are located at the opposite ends of there axis of rotation....  There right beneath one another, seperated by earth of course.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Tumeni on December 07, 2022, 06:42:22 PM »
Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side.

So ... when people travel to the South Pole, they go BENEATH the flat earth? On the "other" side?
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Magicalus on December 07, 2022, 04:17:29 PM »
Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side. 

So a compass will only respond to the polarity of a magnet near your location.

No. A compass is attracted to both the north and south pole, because it's a magnet. If these poles are both in the same place, then it will be attracted to both equally.

Here's why: take a look at this image.


The compass in the middle is pointing both ways, with the north pole of the compass facing the south pole of the bar magnet. Now, if we rotate the magnet 90 degrees to be vertical, the compass will change direction unpredictably; it might follow the north pole or the south pole. But once the magnet is vertical, the compass is equally attracted to both poles again, so it balances back out to pointing east-west.

There is a much simpler problem though; if you buy an unweighted compass(they weight them for accuracy reason to due with latitude) and hold it vertically in the southern hemisphere, the southern end points down. In your model, we would expect the opposite, because the North pole is upwards. This happens in RE because the magnetic pole is technically through the earth.

(Edited after confirmation of south pole map from Tron, also to add clarity)
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Tron on December 07, 2022, 03:07:10 PM »
Okay, so when you go to the south pole, you are not also going to north pole because that is located beneath Earth on the other side. 

So a compass will only respond to the polarity of a magnet near your location.

And I understand why you think the bar magnet is upside down but it's not.  When we say "magnetic" north or south pole it can mean two different things.  The location  of vertical magnetic field lines that is near the geographic north and south pole OR

The actual polarity of the south pole's location which is north.  Magnetic field lines always exit from the north end of a magnet and enter at the south Pole.  So you see why the bar magnet is flipped on the FE and RE pictures above?  It's unfair how confusing it is but below is a swift article explaining the situation.

https://wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/11/15/why-does-a-magnetic-compass-point-to-the-geographic-north-pole/
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Magicalus on December 07, 2022, 02:43:31 PM »
I think the earth is an Axial Disc Magnet...  Here is a picture...    I can't really speak about a Ring Magnet setup..



But in the left model, a compass wouldn't work, because both poles of the compass' magnets would be pulled towards the (geographic) north pole, thus resulting in a compass that points east-west (or vice versa) when you face north. I assume the right one is meant to be the round earth version.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Tumeni on December 07, 2022, 02:38:43 PM »
So ... when someone on this disc travels to the North Pole, they're also travelling to the South Pole as well?
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Tron on December 07, 2022, 02:29:41 PM »
I think the earth is an Axial Disc Magnet...  Here is a picture...    I can't really speak about a Ring Magnet setup..

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Magicalus on December 07, 2022, 02:26:49 PM »
Here's a source for that previous post:
https://www.magnet-sdm.com/radially-magnetized-magnet/
This is from a magnet manufacturer.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Magicalus on December 07, 2022, 02:15:19 PM »
I don't fully understand how magnetism is generated in this way, but I think the Earth spins the same as in RE anyway so..  Am I off the hook?
No, because there's another problem at play here: you can't radially magnetize a disc, cylinder, or any other solid circular magnet. It can only be diametric (along the diameter), or axial (through the center). The wiki claims that the earth is, but that's not possible, unless we've all missed a giant hole at the north pole. Neither the mono or bipolar models work because of this.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: In FE, why do the magnetic poles exist?
« Last post by Tron on December 07, 2022, 02:05:31 PM »
I don't fully understand how magnetism is generated in this way, but I think the Earth spins the same as in RE anyway so..  Am I off the hook?