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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« Last post by Tumeni on Today at 07:44:53 AM »
I am not going to engage in any of your research projects.
To my mind, the next step would be for you to engage with my "project", and demonstrate how the "atmoplane" has affected it. But you won't. Vague hints in the direction of "mirages" do not make for a sound basis.
What project? You have no project.

I never claimed to have something named as a project. I invited you to examine my observations and conclusions, all on YouTube (here and in other threads), and you declined, referring to this here as my "research project". I put it in quotes because I was quoting you. You were the first to refer to me having a "project".

Again, I invite you to view my observations and conclusions, and indicate what I should be looking for in terms of these "atmoplane" effects that would have any significant effect on either.

If you're not going to engage in review of my work, and you refuse to engage with others, and you provide no observations, projects or experimentation of your own, then ... why are you here?
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I'm very curious about the winter situation. I guess a lot depends on how prepared their armies are for it.

Russia is used to dealing with the cold. I would think their equipment is made for it. Then again Russias army is in complete shambles so it might be an opportunity for Ukraine.

It'll be tragic irony:
Russia will lose due to the winter cold, like so many others who attacked Russia.
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https://www.avclub.com/kevin-sorbo-hercules-christian-conservative-1849591197

Yes, so many actors in recent years have won Oscars for playing pedophile terrorists, but kudos to Kevin Sorbo for refusing those roles even though they'd be guaranteed to win him a statue. Stick to your principles, Kev.

So what he really means is...

"To won an Oscar, I need a role I can really connect with."
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I'm very curious about the winter situation. I guess a lot depends on how prepared their armies are for it.

Russia is used to dealing with the cold. I would think their equipment is made for it. Then again Russias army is in complete shambles so it might be an opportunity for Ukraine.
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It doesn’t imply that at all. You’re being more absurd than normal. Do you really expect people to say, “98% of people who voted voted in favor of…”??? How does someone vote in favor of something without voting???

Hey, give Tom a break.  For all we know, a total of 100 people voted and 98 of them voted to join Russia. 

Russia isn't looking for a peace deal. They're looking for a cease fire so they can rearm and try again.
They'll get that opportunity once winter sets in.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« Last post by GoldCashew on September 30, 2022, 09:55:06 PM »
MCToon,

You've pushed your original OP question off the rails by engaging with flat earthers in a way that they are not going to want to engage with you. Stick to the dialogue and try and take emotion out of it if you want a fruitful debate. (yes, I've learned my lesson on approach and am trying to do better)


Action80     

In terms of perspective, mirages, and the atmoplane being a variable affecting the appearance of objects to individual viewers located at various distances from the object(s) in question:

1) What are the physics or science behind these three variables that cause a ship to appear to sink towards the surface of the Earth (whether the surface be land or water)?
2) When a ship moves away from an observer, why does a ship always appear to "sink down" towards Earth's surface but never appear to "sink up" towards Earth's atmosphere?

- Round Earthers would say that because the Earth is a globe, you are seeing the ship move about Earth's curvature and thus the bottom of the ship begins to "disappear" first.
- I think MCToon is asking you to explain the physics or science regarding why/how perspective, mirages, and the atmoplane cause the sun to appear to "sink down" on a flat plane.
This thread is about explanations of sunsets, not about ships.

MCToon claims sunsets cannot happen on a flat earth, based on an extremely comprehensive analyis he performed regarding two issues, those being perspective and refraction.

Quiet please, while he gathers the data as to provide the particulars...


My above post included the sun (i.e. sun setting) and a question as to why the sun always sets "down" but never sets "up" on a flat earth.

As MCToon is gathering his data would you be able to provide some clarity as to how perspective, mirages, and the atmoplane cause a sun to set down vs. up?
It only included the word sun after I pointed out your off-topic contribution.

I am not going to entertain your off-topic original contribution/only to later revise game.


I indeed sent my original post out and noticed it did not include mention of the sun. When I noticed this, I was in the process of editing my post just as you sent your reply.

The timestamp of my edit shows this.

Anyways, in good faith and now with sun added, would you be able to answer the question as to how mirages, perspective, and atmoplane always cause the sun to appear to set down vs. set up on a flat earth?
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Comprehensive explanation for sunsets
« Last post by Action80 on September 30, 2022, 09:38:46 PM »
MCToon,

You've pushed your original OP question off the rails by engaging with flat earthers in a way that they are not going to want to engage with you. Stick to the dialogue and try and take emotion out of it if you want a fruitful debate. (yes, I've learned my lesson on approach and am trying to do better)


Action80     

In terms of perspective, mirages, and the atmoplane being a variable affecting the appearance of objects to individual viewers located at various distances from the object(s) in question:

1) What are the physics or science behind these three variables that cause a ship to appear to sink towards the surface of the Earth (whether the surface be land or water)?
2) When a ship moves away from an observer, why does a ship always appear to "sink down" towards Earth's surface but never appear to "sink up" towards Earth's atmosphere?

- Round Earthers would say that because the Earth is a globe, you are seeing the ship move about Earth's curvature and thus the bottom of the ship begins to "disappear" first.
- I think MCToon is asking you to explain the physics or science regarding why/how perspective, mirages, and the atmoplane cause the sun to appear to "sink down" on a flat plane.
This thread is about explanations of sunsets, not about ships.

MCToon claims sunsets cannot happen on a flat earth, based on an extremely comprehensive analyis he performed regarding two issues, those being perspective and refraction.

Quiet please, while he gathers the data as to provide the particulars...


My above post included the sun (i.e. sun setting) and a question as to why the sun always sets "down" but never sets "up" on a flat earth.

As MCToon is gathering his data would you be able to provide some clarity as to how perspective, mirages, and the atmoplane cause a sun to set down vs. up?
It only included the word sun after I pointed out your off-topic contribution.

I am not going to entertain your off-topic original contribution/only to later revise game.
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Russia isn't looking for a peace deal. They're looking for a cease fire so they can rearm and try again.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« Last post by Tom Bishop on September 30, 2022, 08:34:28 PM »
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Conservatives being snowflakes... again.
« Last post by Roundy on September 30, 2022, 08:17:09 PM »
https://www.avclub.com/kevin-sorbo-hercules-christian-conservative-1849591197

Yes, so many actors in recent years have won Oscars for playing pedophile terrorists, but kudos to Kevin Sorbo for refusing those roles even though they'd be guaranteed to win him a statue. Stick to your principles, Kev.