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Flat Earth Projects / Re: greenolive's Flat Earth model
« on: May 29, 2020, 08:33:08 PM »
Tom, the only reason you did that is because posthuman is a part of you. I recognized that immediately when he returned my map to me with his highlighting on it. He was doing the same thing with his ramblings as you are doing on here - everything you can to get this to go away. I already said it is a rough draft, but since you want to talk about the size of the United States, please tell everyone here, what is the official size of the United States, is it from the February 8, 2002, or the January 25, 2012 NASA composite image of the whole "Earth"? Also, I was just watching a video the other day "The Oil Block Party SW250 Research Flat Earth" by Mark Sargent, where you can see many different sizes of the United States at 6:40 - 6:51 minutes. They are all lies. And I am telling you, the size of the longitude lines increase as you go east and west of Longitude 144.76525423276297250197728245962° W, as they begin to fan out toward the southeast and southwest. That is why Colin O'Brady (November - December 2018 Antarctica "crossing") only took 14 days to walk from the north geographic South Pole to the tip of the Ross Ice Shelf, on the last leg of his journey - a distance claimed to be over 360 statute miles, because it was so close to that longitude line. And it is why Rune Gjeldnes called his November 2005 - February 2006 Antarctica "crossing" "The Longest March", and the reason why he and Mike Horn (December 2016 - February 2017 Antarctica "crossing") both went on a lengthy radio silence - to move their gear from the south to the north, as they both started their journies from Cape Town, South Africa. My map is correct.

Glory to God.

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JSS, that passage you quoted from the book of Mormon is a lie from the pit of hell, and is not the word of God. It is the devil who wrote that, because it obviously goes against the word of God. The word of God is the King James Bible, and further the original Hebrew manuscripts that made the old testament and the Greek manuscripts that made the new testament, that is it.

And Code-Beta Jupiter does not have moons, as first of all Jupiter is the size of a fig, and is the light inside of what would be the rib cage area of a heavenly body, just like humans have bodies, but as my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ tells us flesh is of no use, we as humans have a soul the size of a fig floating (habitating) inside of our rib cage that is either black, on it's way to hell, or white, like a star, in Jesus Christ, on it's way to heaven.

This goes the same for all of the planets - they are all the size of figs. And all of the moons you think you see are also stars, also the size of figs, only giving off much less light.

And BRrollin, the word of God is not fallible. That is blasphemous to say that. The word of God is living. And his name is Jesus Christ. And he is able to save your soul for eternity, if you believe him.

I have told you exactly how the flat world is, and I know what I am dealing with here. But you either believe the word of God or you do not.

And AllAroundTheWorld, in that scripture from the word of God you quoted, 2 Timothy 3:16,17, "thoroughly furnished unto all good works." includes teaching about the flat world, and all of God's creation we live in as it is only history and tradition that has caused you to put science against "religion" as you quote it, and vice versa, and is the reason those weak in the faith in the past have tried to merge the two together, giving concessions to the word of God instead of standing strong and firm in it - through everything.

I gave my life to Jesus Christ four years ago. And just as sure as I am about the scriptures that save my soul forever, in my belief in Jesus Christ, glory to God, I am sure about planets being the size of figs. And I will not back down, because it is the truth.

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But not necessarily scientific truth.

"The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go" - Galileo

That's not what American Scientist has to say about Galileo's thoughts of scriptural support for astronomical beliefs:

Quote from: American Scientist
Galileo set out his own views of Scripture and science, offering an ingenious interpretation of Joshua’s making the Sun stand still to show that not only does Holy Scripture not oppose Copernican theory, it actually supports it.

Also:

Quote from: American Scientist
much of Galileo’s own work is defective

Tom, in Joshua 10:12,13, you either believe "Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon" and "And the sun stood still" and "So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day", or you do not. It is written very plainly for you to see. I don't care what anybody said in the past, or in the future, about what their interpretation of that is, because you are talking about elementary, simple right/wrong logic. Those two verses, simply, clearly, mean the sun and the moon are physically moving above us. They mean the sun clearly was already starting to go down, as Gibeon is slightly to the northwest of Jerusalem, meaning that it is west of the longitude line of Jerusalem, one of only four longitude lines that are perfectly straight, in the lying system of Latitude and Longitude that is used today.

But not necessarily scientific truth.

"The Bible shows the way to go to heaven, not the way the heavens go" - Galileo

That's not what American Scientist has to say about Galileo's thoughts of scriptural support for astronomical beliefs:

Quote from: American Scientist
Galileo set out his own views of Scripture and science, offering an ingenious interpretation of Joshua’s making the Sun stand still to show that not only does Holy Scripture not oppose Copernican theory, it actually supports it.

Your quote was from 1613 when he was trying to fit his discoveries into the Bible, and the quote above from "Letter to Christina" was after he had given up (partially due to the Church's threats) but also as he decided that the Bible was not meant to be taken literally, that it was a spiritual instruction guide, not literal view of how the universe works.

Either way, the Bible (whichever version you choose to believe) has little to do with the math of comets and Jupiters orbits and can't be used to support or refute those calculations.

And JSS, when you talk about comets and Jupiter, the word of God is the only thing that supports or refutes anything, because it is the word of God. Glory to God.

The word of God says:

There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 1 Corinthians 15:41

That is why when you think you are looking "so deep" into the universe, what you are seeing is a star that is giving off far less light than the others, that are all basically on the same level, inside of the firmament where God placed them (from Genesis 1:17), at the creation of the world around 6,000 years ago.

There is no universe. And those calculations that are made are "for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" - exactly what it says in the word of God in Genesis 1:14. Glory to God.

And remember what you are seeing when you look up at the heaven above, the firmament, depends on where you are in the world, as it is like one gigantic kaleidoscope above us, a "molten lookingglass" (from Job 37:18), a mirror than bends the view of the sun, the moon, and the stars as we see them, constantly causing them to be presented at a high elevation angle, up from the horizon, to be magnified, so that we can see them, and to appear in a direction that makes it appear as if we were on a globe. That is why all of the bending lines of longitude above South America, New Zealand, and Australia will bring you to the north geographic South Pole, and most of the lines of longitude above Africa will bring you to the south geographic South Pole (all except those above far west Africa).

Glory to God.

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ChrisTP, Bible verses are the only solid evidence for anything, because the word of God is truth.

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17

And we should all be worshipping Jesus Christ who is God, all of the time, because He is the only truth.

Code-Beta is talking about the stars, moon, and sun, as if they were gigantic, and far, far away. The truth is in the word of God. All of these experiments, and all of this information people think they know are nothing but lies leading them to hell. Read Romans 10:9, do what it says, and remain in that salvation forever, that is Jesus Christ.

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Code-Beta,

     The word planets comes from the Greek "planetes asteres", that literally means wandering stars. All stars were created by God around 6,000 years ago (from Genesis 1:16).

This world is flat, with Antarctica slightly rising toward the four corners of the earth from it's circular coast (from Ecclesiastes 1:7). The word universe is not in the King James Bible, as there is no universe, and the word planets is only in there once, in 2 Kings 23:5. That verse means that the idolatrous priests burnt incense to wandering stars, along with other things, that were correctly known to be the lights of heavenly bodies.

Code-Beta, stars are the size of figs (Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 6:13, 12:1, Isaiah 34:4). And they are lights, inside of what would be the rib cage of heavenly bodies (Job 38:7, Genesis 37:9 (Genesis 15:5), Judges 5:20, Revelation 1:20, 9:1, Daniel 8:10).

The sun and the moon are both around 6 feet wide (Genesis 37:9,10, Revelation 12:1), a few inches thick (Isaiah 3:18, Revelation 12:1), and are equal in size as they are both "great lights" (from Genesis 1:16).

Jerusalem is the center of the world (Ezekiel 5:5, Revelation 20:9), and the stars, along with the sun and the moon rise in the firmament (from Genesis 1:17), where God placed them at the creation of the world, as they pass over the world - being the highest they will ever be, due south of the geographic North Pole, on the longitude line of Jerusalem. From there they go down in the west (except for a few stars that do not rise or go down), being the lowest they will ever be as they pass over the north (Ecclesiastes 1:5, Joshua 10:12,13, Judges 5:20).

Glory to God.

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Matt, I am a Christian as I gave my life to Jesus Christ four years ago, glory to God. The world is flat. The map of the world is the yellow and blue parts of the Brazilian flag. The circle of the earth, from Isaiah 40:22, is the white stripe on the flag, drawn around the world from the center of the flag. The 14 by 20 flag stretched out to 20 by 20, including the circle of the earth, is the square shaped base of the pyramid shaped heavens above the world. We are in the lowest level of heaven.

Jerusalem is the center of the world (from Ezekiel 5:5), glory to God. The around six feet wide, few inches thick sun rises in the east near Japan (Ecclesiastes 1:5), being around 73 miles up when it begins to rise, to around 100 miles up when it gets the highest it will ever be it's daily course, exactly due south of Jerusalem. Then it goes down in the west.

There are two geographic South Poles in the world. One in the north, and one in the south. Leaving Punta Arenas, Chile and New Zealand will take you to the north South Pole. Leaving Cape Town, South Africa will take you to the south South Pole. The Equator is 7,912 miles in diameter, and equally divides the distance between the north and south South Poles, 15,824 miles.

Glory to God.

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