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Re: Trump
« Reply #6801 on: November 12, 2020, 08:55:25 PM »
"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
- An excerpt from the account of the Bishop Experiment. My emphasis

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« Reply #6802 on: November 13, 2020, 06:37:13 AM »
How humiliating would it be ti have Trump's vote for himself be disgarded?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6803 on: November 13, 2020, 06:58:23 AM »
Sky News: Supreme Court will decide next US President



Lots of fraud, questions, Supreme Court will likely decide.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6804 on: November 13, 2020, 07:01:36 AM »
Sky News: Supreme Court will decide next US President



Lots of fraud, questions, Supreme Court will likely decide.

Petty sure it has to go througb lower courts first.  Which it isn't.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6805 on: November 13, 2020, 07:12:56 AM »

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6806 on: November 13, 2020, 07:45:59 AM »
Sky News: Supreme Court will decide next US President


Does an Australian senator get to decide how the American elections play out? Does he even have any particular insight?
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« Reply #6807 on: November 13, 2020, 08:46:10 AM »
Petty sure



Nice try.
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The Court's Jurisdiction
Article III, Section II of the Constitution establishes the jurisdiction (legal ability to hear a case) of the Supreme Court. The Court has original jurisdiction (a case is tried before the Court) over certain cases, e.g., suits between two or more states and/or cases involving ambassadors and other public ministers. The Court has appellate jurisdiction (the Court can hear the case on appeal) on almost any other case that involves a point of constitutional and/or federal law. Some examples include cases to which the United States is a party, cases involving Treaties, and cases involving ships on the high seas and navigable waterways (admiralty cases).
https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/about

Google harder next time. 

And since this is not a matter between two states but a matter between the Trump CAMPAIGN and an individual state, SCOTUS does not have Original Jurisdiction.
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« Reply #6808 on: November 13, 2020, 09:04:33 AM »
It's not when the matter is between two states. It's when a state is involved. The eg. is just an example.

http://constitutionallawreporter.com/article-03-section-02/

"If an Ambassador or Minister from another country, or if a state is involved, the Supreme Court can hear the case first. In all the other cases, the smaller courts will hear the cases first, and the loser can appeal their case."

http://www.leonschools.net/cms/lib7/FL01903265/Centricity/Domain/3038/15-16%20The%20Supreme%20Court%20and%20Deciding%20Cases%20in%20the%20Supreme%20Court.pptx



The Hill says a 2020 election challenge could be heard by the Supreme Court via original jurisdiction:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/524572-how-does-a-case-reach-the-supreme-court

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How does a case reach the Supreme Court?

11/05/20

As a notably long Election Day has now come and gone, the prediction of many experts that there may be legal challenges to multiple aspects of the vote have already come true. So what better time to review how a legal challenge to the election can make its way to the highest court in the land?

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3. Through the Court's original jurisdiction.

While this is by far the last common way for a case to reach the Supreme Court, there are election-related scenarios that could come into play in the next days and weeks.

The concept of original jurisdiction means that rather than a case coming to the court via other courts (state supreme court or federal appellate court) the case begins at the Supreme Court.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2020, 09:35:17 AM by Tom Bishop »

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« Reply #6809 on: November 13, 2020, 09:34:46 AM »
I don't think it really matters at which level this all gets laughed out of court.



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"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
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« Reply #6810 on: November 13, 2020, 11:11:16 AM »
It's not when the matter is between two states. It's when a state is involved. The eg. is just an example.

http://constitutionallawreporter.com/article-03-section-02/

"If an Ambassador or Minister from another country, or if a state is involved, the Supreme Court can hear the case first. In all the other cases, the smaller courts will hear the cases first, and the loser can appeal their case."

http://www.leonschools.net/cms/lib7/FL01903265/Centricity/Domain/3038/15-16%20The%20Supreme%20Court%20and%20Deciding%20Cases%20in%20the%20Supreme%20Court.pptx



The Hill says a 2020 election challenge could be heard by the Supreme Court via original jurisdiction:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/524572-how-does-a-case-reach-the-supreme-court

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How does a case reach the Supreme Court?

11/05/20

As a notably long Election Day has now come and gone, the prediction of many experts that there may be legal challenges to multiple aspects of the vote have already come true. So what better time to review how a legal challenge to the election can make its way to the highest court in the land?

...

3. Through the Court's original jurisdiction.

While this is by far the last common way for a case to reach the Supreme Court, there are election-related scenarios that could come into play in the next days and weeks.

The concept of original jurisdiction means that rather than a case coming to the court via other courts (state supreme court or federal appellate court) the case begins at the Supreme Court.

Not sure I trust those links.  If thst was the case, why hasn't Trump's lawyers taken it there already? 
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6811 on: November 13, 2020, 12:56:54 PM »
I mean there was a better argument for striking down ACA than over-ruling an election in which no massive fraud has been detected. So far there hasn’t been evidence provided to come remotely close to overturning a single state. Trump’s big victory yesterday was that a dozen or so mail-in ballots couldn’t be cured. That’s it.

Trump pretty obviously doesn’t even want to win. He wants to start a news network so he can get back in the media game. A place he is comfortable and competent. This is all theatre to raise profile for that and to pay off his campaign debt/raise money for his PAC. He is playing his base like the shills they are.
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« Reply #6812 on: November 13, 2020, 01:32:44 PM »
Trump pretty obviously doesn’t even want to win. He wants to start a news network so he can get back in the media game. A place he is comfortable and competent. This is all theatre to raise profile for that and to pay off his campaign debt/raise money for his PAC. He is playing his base like the shills they are.

His Trump News network is going to end up just like Trump vodka, Trump Taj Mahal casino, Trump University, Trump Airlines, Trump Taj Mahal casino and every other business that he crashed into the ground. It will collapse and everyone that invested in him will lose.

As soon as he leaves the White House he will be served for a dozen civil complaints and three or four criminal complaints. The IRS will take him apart for for tax fraud. Deutschesbank has announced that they will recall all his debt when he leaves office, a third of a billion dollars.

But just like Nixon, there will still be some dumbass who wants to tattoo Trump's face on his body.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6813 on: November 13, 2020, 02:31:49 PM »
Yeah I dont know if Donnie actually wants another 4 years.

You can almost see the moment he decided to run for president in the first place, when he was getting roasted by Obama at that charity dinner... he said fuck all these people, announced his run and blew everybody else out of the water. Really was impressive when you think about it.

Tough to say if hes made enough money while being president to warrant wanting to stay there for another 4 years, but I imagine that hell sorely miss the constant attention the world gave him since then. The only pragmatic reason i can see for him wanting to keep the job, as you've said, it the insulation it provides him from the wrath of the justice system...and financiers coming after his debts.

Interesting times ahead!

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Re: Trump
« Reply #6814 on: November 13, 2020, 02:35:46 PM »
Here is the DNCs well reasoned motion to dismiss the Trump campaigns suit to block certification of PA’s results:

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/dnc-asks-judge-to-reject-trumps-attempt-to-nullify-6-5-million-pennsylvania-votes-that-is-not-how-democracy-works/

Link to the actual document at the bottom of the linked page.
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« Reply #6815 on: November 13, 2020, 03:20:50 PM »
"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
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Re: Trump
« Reply #6816 on: November 13, 2020, 03:28:14 PM »
Sky News: Supreme Court will decide next US President



Lots of fraud, questions, Supreme Court will likely decide.

You had to run to Australia to find a news story that fits your narrative now? Pickings getting so slim there that you're actually depending on foreigners to support your argument? But you're always disparaging foreigners who give their opinions on American politics here!

I fear DDS has broken you, Tom. Just accept that the election wasn't rigged and Joe Biden will be your President come January 20th. I can't guarantee that you'll feel better but at the very least you'll be somewhat tethered to reality rather than freewheeling it in Fantasyland.
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« Reply #6817 on: November 13, 2020, 04:25:51 PM »
There are reporters who have that same opinion here too. You would just screech with your lungs that they are conservatives. Like it says in the video, US liberal media is still pretending that there is no fraud.

"Just accept" that "Joe Biden will be your president". That comes off as more scared than confident to me.
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« Reply #6818 on: November 13, 2020, 04:29:14 PM »
I fear DDS has broken you, Tom. Just accept that the election wasn't rigged and Joe Biden will be your President come January 20th. I can't guarantee that you'll feel better but at the very least you'll be somewhat tethered to reality rather than freewheeling it in Fantasyland.

Tom is just arguing in favor of the less popular position. You know this isn't some kind of personal commitment from him. In other news:

https://www.axios.com/cisa-election-security-trump-a385868b-512a-4449-addd-4591829a4aef.html

Can't wait to see who gets fired for this. Also:



This is one of the most absurd cases of "bOTh sIDes" I've ever seen, and so couldn't resist posting it here. On the one hand, a government agency is refusing to cooperate with the incoming administration for the sake of their delusional boss's ego. On the other hand, Whoopi Goldberg was mean to Trump supporters. Totally equivalent!
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« Reply #6819 on: November 13, 2020, 04:40:00 PM »
There are reporters who have that same opinion here too. You would just screech with your lungs that they are conservatives. Like it says in the video, US liberal media is still pretending that there is no fraud.
No fraud seems unlikely, in a country with 300 million people I'm sure there will be instances.
But where's the evidence of fraud widespread enough to completely change the election result?
Trump's frivolous law suits keep getting thrown out because he's got nothing.

We have a woman who says she saw a van but she doesn't know what was in it.
We have the USPS dude who Trump got very excited about. Actual quote from that dude:
"I didn't specifically hear the whole story, I just heard a part of it. And I could have missed a lot of it. My mind probably added the rest. I understand that...I was like, I don't know how much of the conversation I heard. I just know I heard this and it freaked me out"
And we have a bunch of affidavits from people who don't understand how elections work.

Where's the actual evidence?
"On a very clear and chilly day it is possible to see Lighthouse Beach from Lovers Point and vice versa...Upon looking into the telescope I can see children running in and out of the water, splashing and playing. I can see people sun bathing at the shore
- An excerpt from the account of the Bishop Experiment. My emphasis