It is fine to bring these things up here in threads. The first argument you made was that there are pictures of the unpacked Rover before the packed rover. This argument was bad because the point of the section in the Wiki is that there are continuity errors.
Your second argument was that the package was not the Rover at all, and the rover-looking package was likely something else. This is a more valid argument, and I agree with it. I agree that the Wiki should be corrected.
Thank you.
Edit: I have now edited that portion out. Any further comments are welcome.
wow, thank you, Tom. Glad to help out. I'll go back and see if there's any more errors that could be corrected.
Edit: Ok, I think I found something:
https://wiki.tfes.org/A_Close_Look_at_the_Lunar_LanderWhile this isn't exactly wrong, it isn't right. For starters, no real evidence is given to suggest that the lander was faked, or couldn't work, etc. The entire argument is "look at it, it doesn't SEEM right, which means it can't be right. right?"
Well, I would like to argue this. That, isn't the actual part of the LM that held the people. YES, it is on the ascent module, but inside the LM is a rather solid, strong aluminum frame:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/misc/apmisc-LM-noID-06.jpg and:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/misc/apmisc-LM-noID-11.jpg and:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6785.0;attach=18404;image and:
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-1db85cf4b2cd44e5e0e4d4eaf864bd79-c and:
https://history.msfc.nasa.gov/saturn_apollo/photos/images/apollo17_GRIN-000640.jpgQuite like the command module, the LM that you see is just its outside covering. The CM inside its cover, when stripped down, looks like this:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-4009/images/1-158b.gif and:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-4205/images/c095b.jpg and then this:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/SP-4205/images/c095b.jpg and then this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/View_of_Spacecraft_012_Command_Module_during_installation_of_heat_shield_%28small_image%29.jpg and finally this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Seattle_Apollo_command_module.jpg and this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Apollo_CSM_lunar_orbit.jpgEssentially, you're ignoring the framing of the LM. The outer covering was the layers of mylar foil used for heat and thermal control, as well as partial micrometeorite shielding. This isn't exactly the most scientific, or reliable argument, for flat earthers. I'm not saying this has to be taken down, but it isn't exactly necessary.
EDIT 2:
I have spotted another in this page, at the bottom "floating moonbuggy" section:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Apollo_Moonbuggy_ProblemsWhile it may look like the buggy is floating, this isn't the case. In another photo of the same scene (AS15-86-11659):
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-86-11659HR.jpg it is clearly seen the front left wheel is on the rock that the photo is being taken from, causing the back left to be lifted as well
You also say that a photo taken of the rover off the ground may be evidence that it was lowered onto set. To this, I ask: why release these photos to the public? There are multiple photos of the rover off the ground. Why would NASA allow this to occur? Where's the shadow, or any evidence, of some crane lowering the rover?
Additionally, I've spotted another error. Same page, but "missing tracks" section.
While it is reasonable that some photos of missing tracks are suspicious, it doesn't mean hoax. In fact, it's easily answerable. The rover covers it's tracks sometimes. If moving slow, the dust propelled out the back of the wheels hits the back dust flap on the wheel frame, falling down behind the wheel. In fact, there's a photo showing this in action:
https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/static.ddmcdn.com_gif_lunar_rover_11_130731.jpg look at very backs of each wheel. See the dust falling?
Also, there are a plethora of photos of the tracks as well, yet no evidence that it was lowered on a crane. And yes, it would be possible for the astronauts to cover SOME of the tracks. Not all, of course, but for many close to the rover, not in the far surrounding land. But, here are many photos of the tracks there:
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11055HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11060HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11063HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11069HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11091HR.jpg (for this one, notice how the tracks right behind the rover are covered, but the ones further back aren't? this could be evidence to the above arguments)
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11092HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11108HR.jpg (hard to see, but they're there)
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11120HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11169HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11170HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-82-11195HR.jpg (wow!)
https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11402HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11403HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11413HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11422HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11423HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11430HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11431HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11437HR.jpghttps://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a15/AS15-85-11438HR.jpgand there are many, many more. These are all from just Apollo 15, too. There's yet more from A15, and then 16 and 17. There'd be too many links for this thread if I was to post them all, but feel free to check the ALSJ if you'd like to see the rest.
EDIT 4:
Another one. The link is listed as "NASA sends Neil and Buzz around to give foreign heads of states fake moon rocks":
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/offbeat/2009-08-27-moon-rock-museum_N.htmThis has been greatly debunked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHALUGcEEiQ and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGQhArtFqIMEssentially, the moon rock was never actually claimed to be a rock, nor did it match any of the other samples given to the other countries on the tour. I suggest watching both videos, they're very informative.