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Re: Trump
« Reply #7040 on: November 20, 2020, 10:50:50 AM »
And about 5 lawyers quit. Shows what they really think of Trumps BS 'evidence'. If Trump was really on a winner you'd think they'd stay
Perhaps they're just getting tired of winning.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7041 on: November 20, 2020, 12:12:47 PM »
And Biden’s win confirmed by the recount

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55006188

Trump Team says that's it's false that it has been officially decided.
Trump’s team say a lot of things in public.
But when they get into court, are under oath and are dealing in facts then time after time the judges are telling them to stop wasting the court’s time.
Weird, isn’t it? What with all this evidence that they definitely have.

It's not weird that cases are working themselves through the state court systems, who are reluctant to police themselves or admit wrongdoing, and are being appealed to higher courts, like it was expected to happen.

Is the lowest tier of judge going to overturn a state election? Not happening. Actions by the lower courts would just get appealed by the other side to the higher courts regardless.

You said that Trump could just file with SCOTUS.

I'm shocked he hasn't.  He has so little time left. 

Also, what about other states like New York, California, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, etc...?  Surely they have wide spread voter fraud too.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7042 on: November 20, 2020, 12:19:51 PM »
Prior to the election they kicked up about the stink about drive through voting in Texas and the ballets that got sent with the wrong return addresses on them in Ohio or something. But he won those states anyway

If Trump was really concerned about widespread voter fraud shouldn't he look into these states too? Or because he won he doesn't give a damn.

In Trumps America, any vote not for him is considered fraud ::)

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7043 on: November 20, 2020, 06:04:18 PM »
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-lawyers-pennsylvania-motion-only-block-certifying-presidential-election-results-2020-11

Anyone who believes Trump isn’t acting completely out of self-interest is a moron or delusional.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7044 on: November 20, 2020, 06:45:31 PM »
And Biden’s win confirmed by the recount

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55006188

Trump Team says that's it's false that it has been officially decided.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55006188

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US President-elect Joe Biden's narrow victory in Georgia will be officially certified by Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

It comes as legal efforts by Donald Trump's allies to challenge his defeat were dismissed in three other states.

The Democrat beat his Republican rival in Georgia by 12,284 votes, according to the audit required by state law.

Mr Raffensperger on Friday said he was disappointed that his party lost but that "numbers don't lie".

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Tom: "Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument. Calling it "insane" or "ridiculous" is not a good argument at all."

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7045 on: November 20, 2020, 07:16:51 PM »
Dominion 'Lawyers Up' Before Abruptly Backing Out Of Pennsylvania Fact-Finding Hearing

Yes folks it was fraud, the whole damn election. Trump won by a landslide AGAIN,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing

"State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”
What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7046 on: November 20, 2020, 07:27:43 PM »
Another ever so reliable source
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/zero-hedge/
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7047 on: November 20, 2020, 07:51:47 PM »
Dominion 'Lawyers Up' Before Abruptly Backing Out Of Pennsylvania Fact-Finding Hearing

Yes folks it was fraud, the whole damn election. Trump won by a landslide AGAIN,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing

"State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

Amazing that no malfeasance by Dominion was found in the hand recount in Georgia. It’s just so, super duper weird.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7048 on: November 20, 2020, 08:15:42 PM »
Dominion 'Lawyers Up' Before Abruptly Backing Out Of Pennsylvania Fact-Finding Hearing

Yes folks it was fraud, the whole damn election. Trump won by a landslide AGAIN,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing

"State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

How?
See here's what I don't get.  How are they responsible?  Did they implant an update that switched votes?  If so, it should still be on the harddrive.  Or at least the original update file.   Easy enough to prove.

Or did someone modify it afterwards?  If so, they are no more responsible than a gun manufacturer.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7049 on: November 20, 2020, 08:28:21 PM »
Dominion 'Lawyers Up' Before Abruptly Backing Out Of Pennsylvania Fact-Finding Hearing

Yes folks it was fraud, the whole damn election. Trump won by a landslide AGAIN,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing

"State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

Amazing that no malfeasance by Dominion was found in the hand recount in Georgia. It’s just so, super duper weird.

They didn't recount at all the votes and compare them with the computer's total tally. They only picked out a small percentage of paper ballots that they had and counted them, extrapolating that everything else would be the same. They just selected from the pile of ballots that they had, ignoring that some may have been added or removed to the total tally. Quite flawed.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7050 on: November 20, 2020, 08:29:40 PM »
Dominion 'Lawyers Up' Before Abruptly Backing Out Of Pennsylvania Fact-Finding Hearing

Yes folks it was fraud, the whole damn election. Trump won by a landslide AGAIN,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing

"State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

I hate to tell you this but that's all fake. Everything about Trump is as fake as his fake orange suntan.

He's not rich, he's a half billion dollars in debt.

He is not successful, he's had more businesses fail than succeed. The businesses that did not fail are just barely profitable. He's been keeping his lifestyle afloat with a 300 million-dollar credit card from Deutsche Bank.

He's not a conservative and doesn't give a crap about conservative values. He was a New York Democrat donating money to Hillary Clinton to defeat conservatives.

He's not a patriot. He will destroy America to get what he wants.

He's not intelligent. He asked a top doctor about injecting people with hand sanitizer.

He didn't fix the economy. The economy was starting to recover from the last time the Republicans were in the White House when he crashed into into the ground with a giant tax break for billionaires.

Trump University was a scam just like his get rich quick videos that he sold on infomercials late at night.


Anything that Donald Trump is, is fake.  He survives on on gullible people who are dumb enough to believe his shtick.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7051 on: November 20, 2020, 08:41:27 PM »
He's not rich, he's a half billion dollars in debt.
What is being rich?

Trump has a huge line of credit. He can buy things you could only ever dream of. He lives a life you could never afford ... despite you claiming to be half a billion dollars richer than him.

Trump understands taxes. You don't want to be making profits and handing it over to Uncle Sam. So make a half billion dollar loss ... borrow at nearly zero percent and then never pay tax again as you offset your loss over the next 20 years. The guy is a genius.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7052 on: November 20, 2020, 08:52:09 PM »
Trump is pretty smart for using his large line of credit to make more money.

MSM is too financially illiterate to understand that it's a bad thing for a regular person to be in debt, but it's a good thing for Trump to be in investment debt.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7053 on: November 20, 2020, 08:57:11 PM »
Trump is pretty smart for using his large line of credit to make more money.

MSM is too financially illiterate to understand that it's a bad thing for a regular person to be in debt, but it's a good thing for Trump to be in investment debt.

Every person who invested money in Trump lost.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7054 on: November 20, 2020, 09:06:53 PM »
Trump is pretty smart for using his large line of credit to make more money.

MSM is too financially illiterate to understand that it's a bad thing for a regular person to be in debt, but it's a good thing for Trump to be in investment debt.

Its not if the investments keep failing.  Right now he owns alot of propery and land, which is valuable and likely gives him some line of credit but if you keep making business ventures that fail, eventually you start selling off your property to make money.

Like, how much money did Trump inc pull in, as profit, in 2015?
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« Reply #7055 on: November 20, 2020, 09:15:17 PM »
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Its not if the investments keep failing.

Real estate is one of the safest investments. Property tends to always retain the bulk of its value, even if the market is low.

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« Reply #7056 on: November 20, 2020, 09:19:47 PM »
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Its not if the investments keep failing.

Real estate is one of the safest investments. Property tends to always retain the bulk of its value, even if the market is low.

Yep, that's why he's about to lose all his real estate. It was the only value he had.

https://www.newsweek.com/deutsche-bank-trump-loans-debt-election-1544334
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Re: Trump
« Reply #7057 on: November 20, 2020, 09:41:33 PM »
Dominion 'Lawyers Up' Before Abruptly Backing Out Of Pennsylvania Fact-Finding Hearing

Yes folks it was fraud, the whole damn election. Trump won by a landslide AGAIN,,,

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dominion-voting-lawyers-abruptly-backing-out-pennsylvania-fact-finding-hearing

"State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

Amazing that no malfeasance by Dominion was found in the hand recount in Georgia. It’s just so, super duper weird.

They didn't recount at all the votes and compare them with the computer's total tally. They only picked out a small percentage of paper ballots that they had and counted them, extrapolating that everything else would be the same. They just selected from the pile of ballots that they had, ignoring that some may have been added or removed to the total tally. Quite flawed.

Source? I have only seen they recounted all 5M ballots by hand.

Also, GA has been certified. Biden won. Trump lost.

Also Trump leverage is problematic unless he has $1B in cash to pay his outstanding principals over the next 4 years. I imagine he will just refinance which will just punt the liquidity issue to a later date. Problem is that fewer and fewer banks seem willing to deal with him.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #7058 on: November 20, 2020, 10:03:42 PM »
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Its not if the investments keep failing.

Real estate is one of the safest investments. Property tends to always retain the bulk of its value, even if the market is low.

Tell that to 2008.

Re: Trump
« Reply #7059 on: November 20, 2020, 10:26:16 PM »
They didn't recount at all the votes and compare them with the computer's total tally. They only picked out a small percentage of paper ballots that they had and counted them, extrapolating that everything else would be the same. They just selected from the pile of ballots that they had, ignoring that some may have been added or removed to the total tally. Quite flawed.

patently false.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/georgia-election-recount-audit-pace-deadline/
"The hand recount of nearly 5 million votes stems from an audit required by a new state law and wasn't in response to any suspected problems with the state's results or an official recount request. The law requires the audit to be done before the counties' certified results can be certified by the state.

Sterling said counties are on a "good pace" for completing the audit in its scheduled time and stressed that elections officials who have become a target of Mr. Trump's ire on Twitter are "diligently following the law." More than 4.9 million ballots have been hand audited so far, with "tens of thousands" left, he said."
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