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Because all of the scientists in the world are concerned with the shape of the earth.  ::)

Very few would be, and, even then, they probably don't think about verifying the shape. They're told it's a sphere and they just go with it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Issue with the horizon arguement
« on: February 06, 2016, 12:36:09 AM »
I imagine the argument is less about the horizon itself looking flat, but more-so that, in the area around us that we can perceive, the earth appears flat.

Therefore, in trusting our own senses and observations, we can logically conclude we are on a flat surface, and thus a flat earth.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 06, 2016, 12:07:18 AM »


... and onto their last album (excluding Jupiter).

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: New to flat Earth theory
« on: February 05, 2016, 12:50:09 PM »
Alright, I came here to have a sensible conversation with people trying to explain their theory of the flat Earth but instead I found out that as soon as start asking certain question, like "why would the elite make all of this up?", members seem to ignore my questions, which seems to me that you only want to answer questions that does not outright disprove your theory. That is very telling to me in the sense that many of you are deep conspiracy theorists who denies all information the governments of Earth and governmental agencies put out simply because it is from the government. You should be critical, ofcourse you should, but to deny everything seems like ignorance and naivety.

Well thanks for the giggle, because this topic did make me giggle. A lot more than it should have.

Most flat earth believers have been at this for years, so I imagine many of them are tired of answering the same question for hundredth time (hence why they haven't bothered posting in this thread). Besides, your question isn't anything new, and I think it's answered on the wiki.

But, I'll answer it anyway: the suspects of greed, money, and power are likely at play.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Greed
« on: February 05, 2016, 12:45:27 PM »
Not really. I don't consider myself to be a greedy person. I'm not a fan of money and try to avoid acquiring new things I don't really need.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 05, 2016, 12:09:37 AM »


Checking out some of their other stuff.

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That model is a simple GIF merely designed to illustrate a concept. It doesn't accurately reflect the movements of the sun and the moon.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Sun and Moon shape
« on: February 04, 2016, 03:10:51 PM »
I believe the sun and moon are spherical.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: TheFineBros
« on: February 04, 2016, 11:50:20 AM »
Only another 13 million left then. I don't think they are going to starve.

You have to wonder how many of those accounts are actually active, though.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: TheFineBros
« on: February 04, 2016, 12:25:45 AM »
I just checked, and TheFineBros have lost 500,000 subscribers in the span of four or five days.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:49:35 PM »
I'm listening to their Unquestionable Presence album, and it's pretty solid.

It has an almost jazz-y feel, interesting rhythms, and a vocalist that reminds me of Zetro from Exodus with a bit more grit and growl. Also, the technicality is plenty impressive.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 03, 2016, 11:24:23 PM »
It reminded me of the band Atheist. Check them out if you haven't already.

I haven't checked them out, so thanks for the recommendation.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 03, 2016, 10:48:33 PM »
I'm listening to A Sceptic's Universe now. Not what I expected, but p. good.

I'm glad you're enjoying it. To me, it's such a fascinating record. It doesn't get any more prog-y than this album: the aesthetics of metal, the unpredictability of jazz, the technicality of classical.

It's a shame the band hasn't done anything else.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: TheFineBros
« on: February 03, 2016, 03:45:34 PM »
They make videos for literal 12 year old girls. Most of them won't care or even notice.

Regardless, they've got a sizeable amount of subscribers who give a shit, and over 300,000 of them have abandoned the channel.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Now Playing
« on: February 03, 2016, 03:42:39 PM »
I've been listening to the Spiral Architect album A Skeptic's Universe.


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: A few genuine questions from a "round earther "
« on: February 03, 2016, 12:07:25 PM »
Sexwarrior; you refer to "the ice wall" am i right in assuming that the general belief is that there is a large ice wall that prevents anyone actually getting to the edge? And for it to be generally un heard of to speculate what is beyond it seems a little ignorant in regards of the natural human instinct of knowledge.

And I actually feel that question number 4 was very important. There are many conspiracy theory behind many different aspects of the world. And behind every conspiracy theory there is always an advantage into successfully hiding the truth.
For example; aliens. The world leaders would have a lot to gain by successfully hiding the fact they do exists.

9/11, the world leaders need the public to believe this act was committed by extreme Islamic terrorists to keep support against the war on terror.

In contrast. There is no benefit (as far as I can see) of covering up the space travel fantasy. The knowledge we can gain from space travel and possibilities of being able to maintain life in space or even find another planet for humans to survive on is hugely advantageous.

My point being that it is would take a lot of resources and time to successfully mask the "illusion" of space travel without any real benefit. Whereas there is a lot to gain from genuine space travel.

It's not that we don't speculate what is beyond the ice wall, but that, as the sun only reaches so far, it is more-or-less impossible for humans to travel that far. So, while it is interesting to consider what may lie out there, it's just not something many of us consider all that important.

There are a few key reasons for faking space travel: money, greed, and power. For example, Lyndon B. Johnson, a former president of the United States, said this on outer space in his memoirs:

"Control of space means control of the world, far more certainly, far more totally than any control that has ever or could ever be achieved by weapons, or by troops of occupation."

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon Landing
« on: February 02, 2016, 11:45:40 PM »
Why would NASA have photos of the underside of the earth, though? The moon and the sun can't really travel underneath the earth in a flat model.

As for the possibility of a moon landing, I suppose it is possible. I doubt that anyone has actually gone to the moon, though. I guess it depends on a few factors such as whether you believe the celestial bodies are spherical or flat, and other things like that.

I say yes and they realized the couldn't escape the dome.

I am a dome believer. I do not belive man has ever or will ever escape the dome ALIVE...

Where would a dome have come from, anyway? I've personally seen little evidence for a dome, and most of it seems to be religious in nature.

Where would the "dust" come from that created the big bang?

I hear and read the word dust so many times it's laughable..

Science=nothing+nothing=something.

I can't say I've heard the term "dust" before. Is that in reference to the supposed singularity that allowed for the big bang?

Also, as you mention the existence of "powerful entities", would you say that you subscribe to somewhat of a deist position?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Do other planets exist?
« on: February 02, 2016, 11:30:40 PM »
I'd like to believe that you are all trolling about man never going to space and that all the planets are flat and such, because I refuse to believe that people liing in this day and age can be as stupid as you people are being on this thread.

There are a few trolls, but I don't think it's too hard to point them out. I, for one, am a legitimate flat earth believer. However, I tend towards believing the other planets are spherical; though, I don't believe man has been to space (at least not to the extent we've been led to believe).

As for other planets existing, I repeat myself - yes, and I imagine they are spherical.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Moon Landing
« on: February 02, 2016, 11:25:24 PM »
Why would NASA have photos of the underside of the earth, though? The moon and the sun can't really travel underneath the earth in a flat model.

As for the possibility of a moon landing, I suppose it is possible. I doubt that anyone has actually gone to the moon, though. I guess it depends on a few factors such as whether you believe the celestial bodies are spherical or flat, and other things like that.

I say yes and they realized the couldn't escape the dome.

I am a dome believer. I do not belive man has ever or will ever escape the dome ALIVE...

Where would a dome have come from, anyway? I've personally seen little evidence for a dome, and most of it seems to be religious in nature.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Argument via Empericism
« on: February 02, 2016, 10:00:58 PM »
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microgravity variations as evidence against universal acceleration.

Could such variations be caused by slight flaws in the equipment used for measuring purposes? Or, perhaps Universal Acceleration is slightly negated depending on the thickness of the Earth in certain areas? Something along those lines, anyway.

And, of course, Universal Acceleration is just one possibility.

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