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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2018, 09:00:02 AM »


This is a projection from the round earth, called the "Azimuthal equidistant projection" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projection).

Yeah, you read it right. It's made FROM the ROUND earth. So, no ROUND EARTH, no FLAT EARTH map (at least not this one).

Please do some research before posting.

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2018, 12:56:39 PM »


You sure you want to stick with this map? If so, can you explain to everyone why the Sun doesn't race across the sky in the southern hemisphere. The Sun supposedly orbits the north pole and just like the rim of a wheel moves faster than the axle, the Sun would have to move faster the further south you go.

You also stated the sun is 700 miles up. You're going to need to explain how the sun can appear overhead in Sydney, Australia. And while on the subject of Australia, do you want to claim that it is 3x the size of Canada.
I saw a video where a pilot was flying above the sun.
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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2018, 01:59:42 PM »
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.

Well then, please provide us an accurate flat Earth map.




So this is what you call an accurate map?   Care to debate it?
Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2018, 02:01:53 PM »
Dr Rowbotham or a blogger? Yeah, I'm going with Dr Rowbotham.

Also it is less than 700 miles.
Prove it. Shouldn't take long.

It appears that Parallax is a troll.
Do you have a citation for this sweeping generalisation?

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2018, 04:41:13 PM »
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.

Haha he can give the distance to the sun and moon but not the one between Paris and New York.....

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2018, 04:48:15 PM »
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.

Well then, please provide us an accurate flat Earth map.




So this is what you call an accurate map?   Care to debate it?

It seems fine to me. I mean, we all know that the quickest route from Japan to Chile is via Alaska.

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2018, 03:00:08 PM »
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.
True but Theories have facts supporting it, we don't actually know, because a flat-earther hasn't gone into space, but yes I agree with you.

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2018, 03:07:43 PM »
we have a much better theory when it comes to flat or round debates, we have more facts, more knowledge of how the Earth actually works.
Can you explain how flat earth THEORY has more facts and knowledge of how the earth works?
JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE EARTH ON THE INSIDE, IT'S LIKE SOMEONE SHOVING YOU INSIDE OF A BOX, AND THEN YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE YOU'RE IN A BOX. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND YOU'RE IN A FLAT CIRCLE.

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2018, 04:21:01 PM »
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.
True but Theories have facts supporting it, we don't actually know, because a flat-earther hasn't gone into space, but yes I agree with you.

A flat Earther can go into space, but a flat Earther can't come back down.

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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2018, 04:28:07 PM »
we have a much better theory when it comes to flat or round debates, we have more facts, more knowledge of how the Earth actually works.
Can you explain how flat earth THEORY has more facts and knowledge of how the earth works?
JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE EARTH ON THE INSIDE, IT'S LIKE SOMEONE SHOVING YOU INSIDE OF A BOX, AND THEN YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE YOU'RE IN A BOX. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND YOU'RE IN A FLAT CIRCLE.
WOah there whippersnapper, hold your horses.
JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE EARTH ON THE OUTSIDE, IT'S LIKE SOMEONE PUTTING YOU ON A SHELF, THEN YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE YOU'RE ON A SHELF. IT'S NOT HARD TO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND YOU'RE ON A ROUND GLOBE.
Not the most comprelling argument?
That's what you're sounding like.
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.
True but Theories have facts supporting it, we don't actually know, because a flat-earther hasn't gone into space, but yes I agree with you.
Theories have facts.
If your flat earth is well-off in that department, care to present some?
As for the round home team, we have numerous photos from space, amature balloon footage, retroreflectors on the moon, if you'd care to disute them feel free, but they are indeed factual.
We don't have theories, we have solid facts. Dr Rowbotham was able to prove how flat earth works. His experiments were solid and this is proved in calculating the true distance of the sun and moon.
True but Theories have facts supporting it, we don't actually know, because a flat-earther hasn't gone into space, but yes I agree with you.

A flat Earther can go into space, but a flat Earther can't come back down.

They can't go up in the first place. They'll be stopped by a dome ;)
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Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2018, 05:49:03 PM »
we have a much better theory when it comes to flat or round debates, we have more facts, more knowledge of how the Earth actually works.
Can you explain how flat earth THEORY has more facts and knowledge of how the earth works?
JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE EARTH ON THE INSIDE, IT'S LIKE SOMEONE SHOVING YOU INSIDE OF A BOX, AND THEN YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE YOU'RE IN A BOX. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND YOU'RE IN A FLAT CIRCLE.

It's certainly possible to go by the idea that you just go by what you can see, and apply common sense. In that case, you believe that you're on a disc about sixty miles across.

If you accept this, then you'll pretty much discount all the stuff about other continents and planets and the rotation of the Earth and so on as being all a big fake. If, however, youdo accept the existence of Australia and Saturn and Southern constellations, then you have to accept that the Earth isn't how it looks. It's much, much bigger than we can see, even from the highest vantage point. So it's then a matter of looking for the best theory that explains all the observations.

The flat Earth theories we get nowadays are bizarre and exotic. They have nothing to do with common-sense observations. They involve magic Suns that stay the same size as they recede into the distance, ships half disappearing according to mystical rules of "perspective" that nobody can explain or, indeed, understand. Flat Earth theory involves denying the evidence of our own eyes, and taking experiments performed hundreds of years ago on faith.

Re: Theories is all we have
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2018, 06:35:01 PM »
we have a much better theory when it comes to flat or round debates, we have more facts, more knowledge of how the Earth actually works.
Can you explain how flat earth THEORY has more facts and knowledge of how the earth works?
JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT THE EARTH ON THE INSIDE, IT'S LIKE SOMEONE SHOVING YOU INSIDE OF A BOX, AND THEN YOU WAKE UP AND REALIZE YOU'RE IN A BOX. IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND YOU'RE IN A FLAT CIRCLE.
Look at the Earth on the inside? I don't think going in a cave will help determine the shape of the earth. Can you please answer the original question.
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