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« Reply #140 on: May 26, 2021, 04:51:10 PM »
Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
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« Reply #141 on: May 26, 2021, 06:05:44 PM »
Overall I think our vaccine rollout has been one of the few things our idiot government have got right.
BUT...I agree that this obsession with vaccinating every single person is wrong.

Only if you think herd immunity isn't worth achieving.  You won't need ubiquitous vaccination for that, but much larger numbers than you are seeing so far.

Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
Sorry for your loss.

Man, you sound like identitarian victim-crying SJW.  Can you cite a specific law or ordinance that precluded essential healthcare?  Sounds like bullshit.
Th*rk is the worst person on this website.

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« Reply #142 on: May 26, 2021, 06:08:36 PM »
Overall I think our vaccine rollout has been one of the few things our idiot government have got right.
BUT...I agree that this obsession with vaccinating every single person is wrong.

Only if you think herd immunity isn't worth achieving.  You won't need ubiquitous vaccination for that, but much larger numbers than you are seeing so far.

Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
Sorry for your loss.

Man, you sound like identitarian victim-crying SJW.  Can you cite a specific law or ordinance that precluded essential healthcare?  Sounds like bullshit.
One, we know you are sorry.

Two, meaningless apologies are just that.

You know damn well you were proponent of lockdowns and you know damn well that routine doctor visits and routine medical care visits were suspended in the US.

Just more BS on your part.
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« Reply #143 on: May 26, 2021, 06:24:45 PM »
UAB Medicine News
 
Is it okay to postpone regular appointments, wellness checks, treatments, and surgeries recommended by my health care professional because of COVID-19?

It is important to continue taking care of your health and medical conditions during the COVID-19 pandemic. Please do not delay getting emergency care for any health condition. For specific medical concerns, we recommend calling and discussing them with your health care provider. Additionally, one may ask about alternative ways to access medical care during this time, such as telehealth visits.


Were they on Medicare? Trump did this, which was a good thing:

President Trump Expands Telehealth Benefits for Medicare Beneficiaries During COVID-19 Outbreak
Mar 17, 2020

https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/president-trump-expands-telehealth-benefits-medicare-beneficiaries-during-covid-19-outbreak

I had a routine telehealth visit last year. It wasn't ideal, but it led to a positive resolution.

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« Reply #144 on: May 26, 2021, 09:07:27 PM »
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This just proves that the "vaccine" is working and doing it's intended purpose.

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    For 70 years they talked about 'The Great Culling' and bragged about how they were going to kill off 5/6 ths of the worlds population through 'Vaccines'... Now it's all just a coincidence.
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        Chuck Farly FiaT__LuX • a day ago • edited

The "vaccine" reprograms the mRNA in your cells to produce SPIKE PROTEINS , these toxic proteins will eventually kill you by stroke, blood clot, pulmonary embolism, respiratory illness or mad cow disease! That is how all the animal test subjects died!


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/first-man-get-covid-19-vaccine-uk-dies-unrelated-illness/
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What kind of person would devote endless hours posting scientific facts trying to correct the few retards who believe in the FE? I slay shitty little demons.

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« Reply #145 on: May 26, 2021, 09:16:20 PM »
The "vaccine" reprograms the mRNA in your cells to produce SPIKE PROTEINS , these toxic proteins will eventually kill you by stroke, blood clot, pulmonary embolism, respiratory illness or mad cow disease! That is how all the animal test subjects died!


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/first-man-get-covid-19-vaccine-uk-dies-unrelated-illness/

Yes, let's all follow J-Man's lead, and trust the words of gateway pundit or just draw out own conclusions based on whatever else we feel like regarding complex medical and cellular biology topics! Medical experts are stupid!

It's actually a complex form of eugenics, where they're thinning the herd by eliminating those with weak health and other genetic deficiencies. The powers that be (not the puppet governments they have us elect) are developing a genetically superior human race  so that our future fighters in the upcoming alien conflicts will be more resilient and we wont have to worry as much about biological collateral damage, given that they will be much more technologically superior to us, we will be forced to defend ourselves using augmented biological weapons.

Theyve effectively catered an efficient us against them narrative throughout this plandemic so that eyes will be away from the real story.

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« Reply #146 on: May 26, 2021, 09:41:46 PM »
Overall I think our vaccine rollout has been one of the few things our idiot government have got right.
BUT...I agree that this obsession with vaccinating every single person is wrong.

Only if you think herd immunity isn't worth achieving.  You won't need ubiquitous vaccination for that, but much larger numbers than you are seeing so far.

Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
Sorry for your loss.

Man, you sound like identitarian victim-crying SJW.  Can you cite a specific law or ordinance that precluded essential healthcare?  Sounds like bullshit.
One, we know you are sorry.

Two, meaningless apologies are just that.

You know damn well you were proponent of lockdowns and you know damn well that routine doctor visits and routine medical care visits were suspended in the US.

Just more BS on your part.

Your sister and brother-in-law died because they didn't go to a doctor's regular visit?
What is it that killed them?  Cancer? 
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2021, 10:21:47 AM »
Overall I think our vaccine rollout has been one of the few things our idiot government have got right.
BUT...I agree that this obsession with vaccinating every single person is wrong.

Only if you think herd immunity isn't worth achieving.  You won't need ubiquitous vaccination for that, but much larger numbers than you are seeing so far.

Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
Sorry for your loss.

Man, you sound like identitarian victim-crying SJW.  Can you cite a specific law or ordinance that precluded essential healthcare?  Sounds like bullshit.
One, we know you are sorry.

Two, meaningless apologies are just that.

You know damn well you were proponent of lockdowns and you know damn well that routine doctor visits and routine medical care visits were suspended in the US.

Just more BS on your part.

Your sister and brother-in-law died because they didn't go to a doctor's regular visit?
What is it that killed them?  Cancer?
They didn't get to go to regular, required visits because of the lockdowns.

A telehealth visit isn't going to give a doctor or other type of provider a chance to perform a physical examination of the patient.

In my brother-in-law's case, cancer.

In my sister's case, a combination of pneumonia (doctor stated bacterial, likely due to the issue of MASK BS) and undiagnosed (due to no regular screenings) spreading of prior breast cancer.

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« Reply #148 on: May 27, 2021, 10:37:39 AM »
Overall I think our vaccine rollout has been one of the few things our idiot government have got right.
BUT...I agree that this obsession with vaccinating every single person is wrong.

Only if you think herd immunity isn't worth achieving.  You won't need ubiquitous vaccination for that, but much larger numbers than you are seeing so far.

Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
Sorry for your loss.

Man, you sound like identitarian victim-crying SJW.  Can you cite a specific law or ordinance that precluded essential healthcare?  Sounds like bullshit.
One, we know you are sorry.

Two, meaningless apologies are just that.

You know damn well you were proponent of lockdowns and you know damn well that routine doctor visits and routine medical care visits were suspended in the US.

Just more BS on your part.

Your sister and brother-in-law died because they didn't go to a doctor's regular visit?
What is it that killed them?  Cancer?
They didn't get to go to regular, required visits because of the lockdowns.

A telehealth visit isn't going to give a doctor or other type of provider a chance to perform a physical examination of the patient.

In my brother-in-law's case, cancer.

In my sister's case, a combination of pneumonia (doctor stated bacterial, likely due to the issue of MASK BS) and undiagnosed (due to no regular screenings) spreading of prior breast cancer.

Masks can't create bacteria and unless you don't wash your mask for days, you aren't gonna get any bacteria growth enough to make ya sick.

Also: Cancer takes years to kill.  How the hell did it not get detected in 2019?  And when they went to the hospital, what, was it stage 4 for both?  Because two people, dying of cancer at the same time... Sounds like an issue with where they lived, like if their water or soil was radioactive or toxic.
If you are going to DebOOonK an expert then you have to at least provide a source with credentials of equal or greater relevance. Even then, it merely shows that some experts disagree with each other.

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« Reply #149 on: May 27, 2021, 10:48:21 AM »
Overall I think our vaccine rollout has been one of the few things our idiot government have got right.
BUT...I agree that this obsession with vaccinating every single person is wrong.

Only if you think herd immunity isn't worth achieving.  You won't need ubiquitous vaccination for that, but much larger numbers than you are seeing so far.

Yep. I think you got it.

People die all the time.

Covid did indeed kill my brother-in-law and my sister this past year, but not the disease itself.

Both died because of the bullshit peddled by the likes of you, like the mask BS and advocating for lockdowns, precluding performance of routine medical care and regular doctor visits, which they both needed.

You people killed them both.
Sorry for your loss.

Man, you sound like identitarian victim-crying SJW.  Can you cite a specific law or ordinance that precluded essential healthcare?  Sounds like bullshit.
One, we know you are sorry.

Two, meaningless apologies are just that.

You know damn well you were proponent of lockdowns and you know damn well that routine doctor visits and routine medical care visits were suspended in the US.

Just more BS on your part.

Your sister and brother-in-law died because they didn't go to a doctor's regular visit?
What is it that killed them?  Cancer?
They didn't get to go to regular, required visits because of the lockdowns.

A telehealth visit isn't going to give a doctor or other type of provider a chance to perform a physical examination of the patient.

In my brother-in-law's case, cancer.

In my sister's case, a combination of pneumonia (doctor stated bacterial, likely due to the issue of MASK BS) and undiagnosed (due to no regular screenings) spreading of prior breast cancer.

Masks can't create bacteria and unless you don't wash your mask for days, you aren't gonna get any bacteria growth enough to make ya sick.

Also: Cancer takes years to kill.  How the hell did it not get detected in 2019?  And when they went to the hospital, what, was it stage 4 for both?  Because two people, dying of cancer at the same time... Sounds like an issue with where they lived, like if their water or soil was radioactive or toxic.
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

When can we expect to be able to visit your licensed practicing office for regular checkups?

My sister and brother-in-law were living as cancer patients for years.

In both cases, the ability to have regular physical examinations was curtailed due to LOCKDOWN restrictions enacted by the BS peddlers of doom porn, such as you and the rest here, thus hastening their deaths.

I realize you and the others here didn't actually sign such orders, but you are of the same mindset of those that did. Personally, I have no problem classifying all of you as vicious killers.
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« Reply #150 on: May 27, 2021, 12:04:35 PM »
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

When can we expect to be able to visit your licensed practicing office for regular checkups?

It's hilarious that this is your take considering the number of MDs you have disagreed with during the pandemic.

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I realize you and the others here didn't actually sign such orders, but you are of the same mindset of those that did. Personally, I have no problem classifying all of you as vicious killers.

That's because you lack basic reasoning skills and are fueled by a dark hole in your heart.
Th*rk is the worst person on this website.

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« Reply #151 on: May 27, 2021, 12:09:19 PM »
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

Says the man who thinks he knows more than scientists...

Sorry for your loss, and all that. But it sounds like your relatives had ongoing health conditions which would have got them in the end.
It's possible that certain appointments being missed sped that up, and I do think the pandemic will cause deaths because of things like that or missed diagnoses. But the pandemic is a real situation which required a response - according to MDs, the people you are claiming know better than us. Whether it was the right response...probably not, but doing nothing wasn't really an option.
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« Reply #152 on: May 27, 2021, 05:39:59 PM »
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

Says the man who thinks he knows more than scientists...

Sorry for your loss, and all that. But it sounds like your relatives had ongoing health conditions which would have got them in the end.
It's possible that certain appointments being missed sped that up, and I do think the pandemic will cause deaths because of things like that or missed diagnoses. But the pandemic is a real situation which required a response - according to MDs, the people you are claiming know better than us. Whether it was the right response...probably not, but doing nothing wasn't really an option.
Everybody has something that gets them in the end.

It was most certainly people with your mindset that helped to expedite things.

So, you got that going for you.

Nothing needed to be done, except for the meeley-minded, weak-kneed, henny pennies (kinda like you) needed to STFU and go lay down in their own corner.

Sane, sober minded people understand that death is a given and not one minute is guaranteed from the time of conception.

As a Malthusian, you add zero intrinsic value to any human endeavor.

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« Reply #153 on: May 27, 2021, 05:41:55 PM »
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

When can we expect to be able to visit your licensed practicing office for regular checkups?

It's hilarious that this is your take considering the number of MDs you have disagreed with during the pandemic.

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I realize you and the others here didn't actually sign such orders, but you are of the same mindset of those that did. Personally, I have no problem classifying all of you as vicious killers.

That's because you lack basic reasoning skills and are fueled by a dark hole in your heart.
I disagreed with less MD's than you did, truth be told.

When you are on the side of evil and when it comes to life in this world, evil will win out.

So, you, being a flow with the current kinda guy (content with all the enemas fueling your thinking sort, you know), believe the world policy of the day is good, rather than actually evil.

So in short Rama, I realize what your opinion is.

And I don't give a fuck.

You opinion is worthless to me.

You are part of the vicious killers.
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« Reply #154 on: May 27, 2021, 06:20:02 PM »
Missed screenings is definitely a problem that is coming up. However, most articles are citing that patients were the ones cancelling appointments during the lockdown or unwilling to utilize telehealth visits.

An article from WebMD even said:
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The study also found that telehealth visits, which were widely used for the first time during the pandemic, were associated with better screening rates.

"Telehealth has a measurable positive effect on whether patients get their cancer screenings," Chen said. "This study also justifies a continued use of telehealth even after the pandemic."

I know that there were definitely still regular appointments happening in some capacity during lockdown. But, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe some healthcare providers did push back or cancel appointments if they did not consider them urgent.

The decline in screenings during the lockdown is pretty fucked up, but there's really not anyone to blame here. Hospitals and clinics were at the forefront of the pandemic, they were not fueled by any 'doom porn.'

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« Reply #155 on: May 27, 2021, 07:18:05 PM »
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

When can we expect to be able to visit your licensed practicing office for regular checkups?

It's hilarious that this is your take considering the number of MDs you have disagreed with during the pandemic.

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I realize you and the others here didn't actually sign such orders, but you are of the same mindset of those that did. Personally, I have no problem classifying all of you as vicious killers.

That's because you lack basic reasoning skills and are fueled by a dark hole in your heart.
I disagreed with less MD's than you did, truth be told.

Oh cool. How many did I disagree with and how many did you disagree with?

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When you are on the side of evil and when it comes to life in this world, evil will win out.

So, you, being a flow with the current kinda guy (content with all the enemas fueling your thinking sort, you know), believe the world policy of the day is good, rather than actually evil.

You distilled it to good vs evil. This is the lack of reasoning skills I was referring to. In reality there were always going to be casualties, so this was about reacting in real time to mitigate casualties. I’m surprised you don’t understand this considering the bug conservative talking point was about letting the old and infirm die for the economy. I’m sorry to say that the conservative alternative would have also presented serious public health risks to your siblings.

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So in short Rama, I realize what your opinion is.

And I don't give a fuck.

You opinion is worthless to me.

You are part of the vicious killers.

One day you’ll realize that a lack of coherent public health strategy was the biggest killer in the US. 50 States and the Federal government all trying to curry favor in an election year.
Th*rk is the worst person on this website.

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« Reply #156 on: May 28, 2021, 10:23:50 AM »
Missed screenings is definitely a problem that is coming up. However, most articles are citing that patients were the ones cancelling appointments during the lockdown or unwilling to utilize telehealth visits.

An article from WebMD even said:
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The study also found that telehealth visits, which were widely used for the first time during the pandemic, were associated with better screening rates.

"Telehealth has a measurable positive effect on whether patients get their cancer screenings," Chen said. "This study also justifies a continued use of telehealth even after the pandemic."

I know that there were definitely still regular appointments happening in some capacity during lockdown. But, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe some healthcare providers did push back or cancel appointments if they did not consider them urgent.

The decline in screenings during the lockdown is pretty fucked up, but there's really not anyone to blame here. Hospitals and clinics were at the forefront of the pandemic, they were not fueled by any 'doom porn.'
Yeah, more BS.

How do you get screened for cancer over the phone?

Elective surgeries and doctor office  visits were curtailed, at least in this area.

For several months at the beginning of the "henny penny," shit show, you couldn't even leave the fucking house if you were not considered an "essential worker."

Revisionist history is another favorite tool of all of you.

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« Reply #157 on: May 28, 2021, 10:28:41 AM »
Good to hear you know more than a licensed MD.

When can we expect to be able to visit your licensed practicing office for regular checkups?

It's hilarious that this is your take considering the number of MDs you have disagreed with during the pandemic.

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I realize you and the others here didn't actually sign such orders, but you are of the same mindset of those that did. Personally, I have no problem classifying all of you as vicious killers.

That's because you lack basic reasoning skills and are fueled by a dark hole in your heart.
I disagreed with less MD's than you did, truth be told.

Oh cool. How many did I disagree with and how many did you disagree with?

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When you are on the side of evil and when it comes to life in this world, evil will win out.

So, you, being a flow with the current kinda guy (content with all the enemas fueling your thinking sort, you know), believe the world policy of the day is good, rather than actually evil.

You distilled it to good vs evil. This is the lack of reasoning skills I was referring to. In reality there were always going to be casualties, so this was about reacting in real time to mitigate casualties. I’m surprised you don’t understand this considering the bug conservative talking point was about letting the old and infirm die for the economy. I’m sorry to say that the conservative alternative would have also presented serious public health risks to your siblings.
You did listen to less MD's than I and took up sides with those famous, well known conservatives, such as Andrew Cuomo, Gavin Newsome, Gretchen Whitmer, and even your beloved Doug Ford, Justin Trudeau, and all the rest of the freedom loving songbirds, who have killed hundreds of thousands of elderly people, condemning to a life alone in the nursing homes.

Yeah, big conservative talking point.

Freaking loser. 
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So in short Rama, I realize what your opinion is.

And I don't give a fuck.

You opinion is worthless to me.

You are part of the vicious killers.

One day you’ll realize that a lack of coherent public health strategy was the biggest killer in the US. 50 States and the Federal government all trying to curry favor in an election year.
I realize it was a fucked up system of virtue signaling (propogated by the people of like you, the fine head up their ass type) that helped to fuel it.

Substituting overall public health in favor of "the sky is falling."
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« Reply #158 on: May 28, 2021, 01:29:43 PM »
You did listen to less MD's than I and took up sides with those famous, well known conservatives, such as Andrew Cuomo, Gavin Newsome, Gretchen Whitmer, and even your beloved Doug Ford, Justin Trudeau, and all the rest of the freedom loving songbirds, who have killed hundreds of thousands of elderly people, condemning to a life alone in the nursing homes.

See this is a prpoblem for you as well as Tom.  I actually think the lockdowns Canada and the US did were the worst most harmful version of them and caused more death than anything short of not doing anything.  But hey, keep making up the narrative that makes you feel better.

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Yeah, big conservative talking point.

Yeah

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Freaking loser. 

Stay classy.

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I realize it was a fucked up system of virtue signaling (propogated by the people of like you, the fine head up their ass type) that helped to fuel it.

Substituting overall public health in favor of "the sky is falling."

I agree it wasn't well handled, they needed to do something more than a half-measured lockdown because they were afraid of the political optics.  Doing nothing was the only worse thing they could have done.
Th*rk is the worst person on this website.

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« Reply #159 on: May 28, 2021, 02:02:25 PM »
Do not get the vaccine it is a trick I feel like pure shit
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