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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Vendée globe race pass through Antarctic
« on: September 22, 2015, 05:38:05 PM »
I would actually like to see the path that the sun takes in a bi-polar Earth. Is it the same as the traditional FE sun path?

There is no such thing as a traditional FE sun path.

Rowbotham made some serious mistakes in the chapters devoted to the Sun's path, altitude.

20th century FEs followed in the same path (no pun intended), without a proper understanding which could/should have been based on the global Piri Reis map.

I have described the path in great detail in my messages: the photographs taken in Antarctica should give you a strong hint as to what this path is.

The sun rises from beyond the dome, the section which would approximately correspond to where Japan is located, sets in Antarctica and rises again to reach its original point of departure.

It is not a spotlight sun, as some have thought.

More information on the Sun's path starts here:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=58190.msg1490183#msg1490183


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Vendée globe race pass through Antarctic
« on: September 22, 2015, 11:51:17 AM »
This is what the border looks like:









http://www.moonglow.net/eclipse/2003nov23/ (photographs taken in November, 2003, by Fred Bruenjes)

These photographs discussed within the context of the Maurice Allais effect:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1629054#msg1629054

There is no outer rim ice wall.

What we do have is a very dense section/barrier made up of aether, the very reason the distance earth-moon, measured with the help of radio wave signals, must be measured taking into account the fact that light will decrease its speed greatly when encountering the aether barrier.

During 1939-1945, the Nazis tried to go beyond the dome of aether using the most advanced UFOs, mercury subquark gyros, but they could not.


If a boat or plane tried to go head straight into the barrier, what would happen is this: the plane or the boat, will slowly be diverted to keep the path of direction within the space/aether under the dome, that is it will be encountering the very barrier itself, more dense as we approach the dome, and will be blocked from going beyond, but without the pilot/sailor realizing it.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Vendée globe race pass through Antarctic
« on: September 22, 2015, 10:20:15 AM »
The northern circumpolar map, for some unknown reason still used by the FESs, is incorrect, useless in fact.

Here is the correct, bi-polar map, which I brought to the FES for the first time (like so many other things):


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Ask Tom Bishop
« on: September 22, 2015, 08:17:23 AM »
My tactic has always been to present the best possible information, the most remarkable insights, to the reader.

This has nothing the do with the Doppler effect, I do not understand the purpose of this link is here.

But it does.

The article by Dr. Tesla describes the difference between Hertzian waves (modern theory of e/m) and non-Hertzian waves (scalar waves).

Can you understand the difference?

Then everybody here will understand that the speed of light cannot a constant, but a variable, according to the density of the aether (medium through which ether travels/propagates).


Here are the original J.C. Maxwell equations and a clear description on how and why these equations were modified in order to conceal the existence of ether:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1639521#msg1639521


Dr. Nikola Tesla:

Ever since the announcement of Maxwell's electro-magnetic theory scientific investigators all the world over had been bent on its experimental verification. They were convinced that it would be done and lived in an atmosphere of eager expectancy, unusually favorable to the reception of any evidence to this end. No wonder then that the publication of Dr. Heinrich Hertz's results caused a thrill as had scarcely ever been experienced before. At that time I was in the midst of pressing work in connection with the commercial introduction of my system of power transmission, but, nevertheless, caught the fire of enthusiasm and fairly burned with desire to behold the miracle with my own eyes. Accordingly, as soon as I had freed myself of these imperative duties and resumed research work in my laboratory on Grand Street, New York, I began, parallel with high frequency alternators, the construction of several forms of apparatus with the object of exploring the field opened up by Dr. Hertz. Recognizing the limitations of the devices he had employed, I concentrated my attention on the production of a powerful induction coil but made no notable progress until a happy inspiration led me to the invention of the oscillation transformer. In the latter part of 1891 I was already so far advanced in the development of this new principle that I had at my disposal means vastly superior to those of the German physicist. All my previous efforts with Rhumkorf coils had left me unconvinced, and in order to settle my doubts I went over the whole ground once more, very carefully, with these improved appliances. Similar phenomena were noted, greatly magnified in intensity, but they were susceptible of a different and more plausible explanation. I considered this so important that in 1892 I went to Bonn, Germany, to confer with Dr. Hertz in regard to my observations. He seemed disappointed to such a degree that I regretted my trip and parted from him sorrowfully. During the succeeding years I made numerous experiments with the same object, but the results were uniformly negative.

 In 1900, however, after I had evolved a wireless transmitter which enabled me to obtain electro-magnetic activities of many millions of horse-power, I made a last desperate attempt to prove that the disturbances emanating from the oscillator were ether vibrations akin to those of light, but met again with utter failure. For more than eighteen years I have been reading treatises, reports of scientific transactions, and articles on Hertz-wave telegraphy, to keep myself informed, but they have always imprest me like works of fiction.


Hertz made a collosal mistake: he created shock waves in air, not true electromagnetic waves, that is, just ripples in the sea of ether.


In 1887, Heinrich Hertz announced that he had discovered electromagnetic
waves, an achievement at that time of no small imporl. In 1889, Nikola Tesla
attempted the reproduction of these Hertzian experiments. Conducted with
absolute exactness in his elegant South Fifth Avenue Laboratory, Tesla found
himself incapable of producing the reported effects. No means however applied
would produce the effects which Hertz claimed. Tesla began experimenting
with abrupt and powerful electric discharges, using oil filled mica
capacitors charged to very high potentials. He found it possible to explode thin
wires with these abrupt discharges. Dimly perceiving something of importance
in this experimental series, Tesla abandoned this experimental series, all the
while pondering the mystery and suspecting that Hertz had somehow mistakenly
associated electrostatic inductions or electrified shockwaves in air for true
electromagnetic waves.

In fact, Tesla visited Hertz and personally proved these
refined observations to Hertz who, being convinced that Tesla was correct,
was about to withdraw his thesis. Hertz was truly disappointed, and Tesla
greatly regretted having to go to such lengths with an esteemed academician in
order to prove a point.



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Flat Earth Community / Re: Flat Earth Cosmographia
« on: September 21, 2015, 06:05:48 PM »
Other things that should never be mentioned in a FE textbook:

Stratellites
3000 mile altitude/32 mile diameter of the Sun
Outer rim ice wall
Northern circumpolar flat earth map


It should be addressed both to the layman and also to the scientist who has earned a PhD in mathematical-physics.

While Flat Earth Conspiracy presents nicely basic FE theory (though it does not offer any kind of proper explanation for gravity), this new book should include the advanced topics, the ones which provide the necessary answers to the most important questions addressed by the RE:

What is gravity?

What is the age of the FE?

Where is our universe located?

How does quantum mechanics relate directly to the shape of the Earth?


Any prospecting flat earth messiah must be proficient in the language of higher mathematics, in order to be able to have a dialogue with experts in RE celestial mechanics/physics...

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Flat Earth Community / Flat Earth Cosmographia
« on: September 20, 2015, 07:12:51 PM »
There is no need to have four volumes to present FET.

And certainly you do not know how to present it, how to sell it to the public.


The best place to start is to show to the reader why the RE does not work at all: the failed big bang/space time continuum hypotheses, the refutation of relativity, why there is no such thing as attractive gravity.

Do not under any circumstances put forward the bogus, science fiction UA acceleration story: you will lose any potential FE believer, as you show that you do not have a proper understanding of gravitational theories.

Then one must show that the Earth is actually stationary, well before presenting its true shape.

Then, and only then, we make the transition, using the fact that a stationary earth must have a flat surface (the fact that terrestrial gravity must a force of pressure exerted by the telluric currents).



This would be one way to write the book.


If a more direct approach is needed, then start with the Tunguska explosion file.

No FE textbook is complete or could be written without the very important idea which I discovered and presented in my Advanced FET pages thread: since the precession CANNOT be due to a moving/rotating Earth (axial precession), then, given the distance between the two tropics on the correct flat earth map, the history of the world could not possibly be more than 500 years old (solar precession at 1.5 km/year, a distance of approximately 1060 km alloted for each of the six sections).

One volume, in less than 150 pages, takes care of business in the most straightforward and spectacular manner...

987
A few formulas of interest.


CURVATURE

C = R(1 - cos[s/(2R)]) - angle measured in radians


R = 6378,164 km

s = distance



VISUAL OBSTACLE




BD = (R + h)/{[2Rh + h2]1/2(sin s/R)(1/R) + cos s/R} - R


BD = visual obstacle

h = altitude of observer



To obtain the formula for the maximum difference of level between two points, we simply modify the first equation:






As an example, let us use the distance in the Columbus' journal, 90 km:




988
Flat Earth Theory / Re: Ask Tom Bishop
« on: September 20, 2015, 07:30:44 AM »
My brief intervention here will come to a close with this remarkable article by Dr. Nikola Tesla:

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1919-05-00.htm

Tesla describes the difference between sending signals which initiate ripples through the sea of ether (subquark strings) - modern day electromagnetic/wireless theory - and the true wireless: sending longitudinal waves through these transversal radio waves, without creating ripples.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Ask Tom Bishop
« on: September 19, 2015, 11:46:59 AM »
Did you check the 18 page discussion on the sun's path/movement, taking into consideration exactly your concerns, in the above mentioned thread?

When it comes to the Sun, the best place to start, of course, is the Faint Young Sun Paradox:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1707290#msg1707290

To actually date the age of the Sun, we have understand the true age of the comets:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1640735#msg1640735


And do check the path of the Sun as it relates to the Tunguska explosion:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1676400#msg1676400



As to whether there were people who believed that the earth was flat prior to Rowbotham, yes, early Greece philosophers debated such things. The Ancient Egyptians and Ancient Babylonians were Flat Earthers as a society. It is worth noting that the Ancient Babylonians were expert astronomers and mathematicians, and could predict the Lunar Eclipse and other phenomenona with accuracy.

Sorry, one cannot have it both ways.

It is either/or.

Either the Earth is flat and the entire astronomical data as it pertains to the axial precession has been faked/forged (from Hipparchus to Kepler), or the Earth does orbit the Sun and does undergo a precessional axial movement (that is, the data is true).

This is all the RE have to do to claim victory (of course, if I was not around...): use the fact that absolutely no other FE/UAFE believes in the new radical chronology of history and have them admit that they accept wholeheartedly the official point of view (i.e., the existence of the words/works attributed to Hipparchus, Ptolemy and Kepler). Then it is all over, since such an acceptance means that the AXIAL PRECESSION OF THE EARTH, as it orbits the Sun (heliocentrical theory) is actually TRUE, as it had been recorded (official historical/astronomical data) in the past.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Ask Tom Bishop
« on: September 19, 2015, 07:57:45 AM »
The questions posed here are extremely relevant, but they cannot be answered in the context of the official, faulty, UA acceleration.

Here is the only thread which DOES answer the ham radio/radar/GPS signal questions:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=58190.msg1488698#msg1488698 (+ 18 more pages of debate)


By the way, if any of the RE here want to totally destroy the UA acceleration hypothesis all they have to do is read the Beam Neutrino thread:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=27426.0#.Vf0UDNKqqko


I was the first to put forward/propose the correct FE map: the global, bi-polar, Piri Reis map, see:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38712.msg961267#msg961267


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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity
« on: September 15, 2015, 05:44:15 PM »
The UA acceleration hypothesis was put forward by persons who, at the time they were writing, had no knowledge of ether/aether physics: the original set of Maxwell's equations, the Dayton Miller experiments, the Biefeld-Brown effect and much more.

The correct presentation of the real cause of terrestrial gravity:

http://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=1948.msg45022#msg45022

992
Flat Earth Theory / Re: Rahu
« on: July 24, 2015, 03:16:05 PM »
Rahu and Ketu, Desana tribe cosmology:




Nordic mythology, Skoll and Hati:






Enuma Elish, fourth tablet:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/esp_sumer_annunaki01d.htm

Tiamat = Black Sun = Rahu

Marduk = Jupiter

Kingu = Mars

It tells the story of the first major planetary/stellar cataclysm, when Tiamat was split into two halves (Rahu and Ketu were ONE star, in the shape of a disk).

Actually the Black Sun has a very deep red color...

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Rahu
« on: July 23, 2015, 03:55:24 PM »
I have been writing on this subject for the past seven years...

Rahu = The Black Sun

Ketu = The Shadow Moon

The best way to prove that the Moon could not possibly cause the solar eclipse is the Allais effect:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1623305#msg1623305


Black Sun photographs, 2003, Antarctica:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1629054#msg1629054

994
Terrestrial refraction is just the first step in properly defending FET...

Here are the terrestrial refraction, looming and ducting phenomena applied to Lake Michigan:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30499.msg1591587#msg1591587

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Basic physics laws
« on: May 25, 2015, 12:59:44 PM »
So, your statement "The ingredients of the air—oxygen, nitrogen, argon and other gases—though not in a compound but in a mixture, are found in equal proportions at various levels of the atmosphere despite great differences in specific weights." is an outright lie.

Let us go to the textbook on atmospheric physics.

The earth's atmosphere is a complex mixture of several "gases", either atomic or molecular in nature. Air consists primarily of N2 (78%) and O2 (21%), with small amounts of several other substances, including Ar (0.9%).


Let us take, as an example, the troposphere.

http://www.geo.arizona.edu/Antevs/nats104/00lect25atmcompo.html

NITROGEN 78%
OXYGEN 21%
ARGON 0.9%


Now, the thermosphere.

http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-gases-that-separate-by-weight-upper-layers-469654

Thermosphere: 80% nitrogen and 20% oxygen


Heavier gases have a greater force of attraction, which is why you find the heavier gases (Oxygen for example) closer to the Earth.


Even in the troposphere, nitrogen is thoroughly mixed with oxygen.


If it were true, then the moment the wind subsides, the nitrogen should stream upward, and the oxygen should drop, preceded by the argon. If winds are caused by a difference in weight between warm and cold air, the difference in weight between heavy gases high in the atmosphere and light gases at the lower levels should create storms, which would subside only after they had carried each gas to its natural place in accordance with its gravity or specific weight. But nothing of the kind happens.


Why, then, do not the atmospheric gases separate and stay apart in accordance with the specific gravities?


Ozone, though heavier than oxygen, is absent in the lower layers of the atmosphere, is present in the upper layers, and is not subject to the “mixing effect of the wind.” The presence of ozone high in the atmosphere suggests that oxygen must be still higher: “As oxygen is less dense than ozone, it will tend to rise to even greater heights.”  Nowhere is it asked why ozone does not descend of its own weight or at least why it is not mixed by the wind with other gases.


Exosphere: Hydrogen, helium, carbon dioxide, and atomic oxygen.

http://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-gases-that-separate-by-weight-upper-layers-469654

You have a poor knowledge of atmospheric physics since you wrote:

The upper atmosphere contains only helium and hydrogen, which are much lighter gases.



You have dodged the very argument proposed there, the very fact that the barometer pressure paradox CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE.

One maximum is at 10 a.m., the other at 10 p.m.; the two minima are at 4 a.m. and 4 p.m. The heating effect of the sun can explain neither the time when the maxima appear nor the time of the minima of these semidiurnal variations. If the pressure becomes lower without the air becoming lighter through a lateral expansion due to heat, this must mean that the same mass of air gravitates with changing force at different hours.



Did you know that tides also occur twice a day with 2 high tides and 2 low tides? Can you guess what causes tides? It's the gravitational pull of the Sun and the Moon on the Earth. Did you know that the Earth's atmosphere is also affected by the gravitational pull of our celestial neighbors? Now you do.

Please do your homework.

http://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/geol/tides.htm

This atmospheric tide is completely solar, the lunar component being too small to observe.

Do not mix different aspects of the tidal science: atmospheric tides and oceanic tides are two different phenomena.


Did you know that the Earth's atmosphere is also affected by the gravitational pull of our celestial neighbors? Now you do.

Your scientific reach is much greater than your scientific grasp.

The Earth is not rotating in space.
The Earth’s surface is composed of similar materials.
Solar heating and loss of infrared radiation cause a temperature gradient of hot air at the equator and cold air at the poles, forcing warm air away from the equator toward the poles.

The velocity should exponentially increase with altitude at the equator from 0 to 1054 mph. Based on the conventional Hadley cycle and Coriolis force model:

If there is a jet stream anywhere it should be east-to-west, at the equator, but it is not.
There is a Northern hemisphere mid-latitude west-to-east jet stream, but that is the wrong location and the wrong direction.
There is a Southern high-latitude east-to-west jet stream, which is the wrong location.
The highest steady winds at altitude anywhere seem to be about 50 knots, way below the rotational predictions.

Hence, it seems that the Earth is not rotating, but variable winds are caused by thermal and pressure gradients. Rotation only seems to be discussed in theory regarding the secondary Coriolis side effect, not the main feature, that is, the transition from an accelerated to an inertial frame. Remember, the Coriolis force is not unique to a rotating Earth; the same inertial forces would be present if the universe rotated around an immobile Earth. Mach’s principle is still in effect, as always. But how can inertial winds of 1054 mph not play a significant role in a predictive model of terrestrial air patterns? It seems that no matter which choice for the atmosphere one takes – that it turns with or does not turn with the Earth – it defies either logic or observation.

If we are on a rotating Earth with air subject only to gravity (i.e., the atmosphere is not coupled or bound by any forces to turn with the Earth), then we would experience tremendous wind problems, in which the spinning Earth encounters the full weight of the atmosphere. (NB: The atmosphere weighs more than 4 million billion tons.) The minor thermal differences between poles and equator would be wiped out by the blast of west-to-east air, that is, the collision of free air and the spinning Earth.

Conversely, if we are on a rotating Earth and somehow this atmosphere is turning with us, what is the coupling mechanism that enables it to do so? It must have some link to provide the torque to continue the coordinated rotation of the Earth with its wrapper of air. Would not a co-turning atmosphere and Earth mean nothing else could move the air? Otherwise, is not the air was acting as a solid, not a gas? No one has proposed a mechanism for this connection of the supposedly spinning Earth to the supposedly spinning air that is so strong that the atmosphere is forced to spin along with Earth, though otherwise it is free to move anywhere that gravity permits! We easily demonstrate the air’s freedom every time we walk through it or breathe it. Yet, we are told, the air obediently follows the Earth as it twirls through the heavens.



Also read the RESTORING FORCES PARADOX:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120726102954/http://www.realityreviewed.com/Restoring%20forces.htm

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Flat Earth Media / Re: Book of Enoch and the flat Earth
« on: May 25, 2015, 12:17:23 PM »
Dr. G. Nosovsky:

The historians are supposed to concern themselves with chronology. However, without a sufficient mathematical education – and in the case of chronological studies, sufficient means fundamental – the historians are forced to evade the solution and even the discussion of the rather complex chronological issues.

Every historical oddness and contradiction becomes carefully concealed from the public attention; in dangerous and slippery places the historians put on a “professional” mien, saying that “everything is really okay” and they shall “give you a full explanation” later on.



Biblical scholars need to be reminded of this...


Here we have the most direct, comprehensive, and splendid proof  that our official chronology of history was absolutely falsified during the Renaissance:

Dionysius Exiguus, On Easter (translation from Latin to English):





http://www.ccel.org/ccel/pearse/morefathers/files/dionysius_exiguus_easter_01.htm


Exiguus assigns the date of March 24, year 563 AD, for the Paschal Moon.


However, in the year 563 AD, the Paschal Moon fell on March 25.




http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~gent0113/easter/easter_text4a.htm


Dr. G. Nosovsky:

We don’t have to observe the sky or perform astronomical calculations every time; compiling a table of March and April full moons for any given period of 19 years should suffice for further reference. The reason is that the phases of the moon recur every 19 years in the Julian calendar, and the recurrence cycle remains unaltered for centuries on end – that is, if the full moon fell on the 25th March any given year, it shall occur on the 25th of March in 19 years, in 38 (19 x 2) years, etc.

The malfunctions in the cycle shall begin after 300 years, which is to say that if we cover 300 years in 19-year cycles, the full moon shall gradually begin to migrate to its neighbouring location in the calendar. The same applies to new moons and all the other phases of the moon.


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=52083.0#.VRVdovysWCo


But Exiguus could not have been unaware of the date of Passover in the the almost contemporary year 563! To that end it was sufficient to apply the Metonian cycle to the coming 30-40 years; the inaccuracy of the Metonian cycle does not show up for such intervals.

As he specially worked with the calendar situation of almost contemporary year 563 and as he based his calculation of the era "since the birth of Christ" on this situation, Dionysius could not help seeing that, first, the calendar situation in the year 563 did not conform to the Gospels' description and, second, that the coincidence of Easter with Passover in 563 contradicts the essence of the determination of Easter the Easter Book is based on.


Therefore, it appears absolutely incredible that the calculations of the First Easter and of the Birth of Christ had been carried out in the 6th century on the basis of the calendar situation of the year 563. It was shown in Sec. 1 that the Easter Book, used by Dionysius, had not been compiled before the 8th century and had been canonized only at the end of the 9th century. Therefore, the calculations carried out by (or ascribed to) Dionysius the Little had not been carried out before the lOth century.







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Flat Earth Media / Re: Book of Enoch and the flat Earth
« on: May 23, 2015, 09:10:42 AM »
Dead Sea Scrolls forgeries:

http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30145#30145

A Mysterious Metal

One of the best-kept secrets of the Dead Sea Scrolls has been the discovery of metals in the black ink. That finding was buried in unpublished results, and wasn't unearthed until 1996. The presence of metals further points to the scrolls being of medieval origin.

Scientific testing of the scrolls in the early 1950s found silver, manganese, iron and other metals in the black ink used on the scrolls. Scholars tried to downplay the discovery of these metals by saying that some of them, like copper and lead, were byproducts of leaching from a bronze inkwell. Yet silver, manganese and iron are not components in the making of bronze. The 1990s tests also detected the presence of strontium and titanium but could not tell if they were pure. (In its purest form, neither element was isolated until the 1800s.)

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Basic physics laws
« on: May 23, 2015, 08:09:33 AM »
One of the best threads on the subject.


alex wrote:

It states the attractive, gravitational force between two masses 'M' and 'm' given a distance 'd' between them.

But it is not attractive, not now, not in the past, not ever in the future.

Gases do not obey an attractive gravitational law:

SEMIDIURNAL CHANGES IN BAROMETRIC PRESSURE

The weight of the atmosphere is constantly changing as the changing barometric pressure indicates. Low pressure areas are not necessarily encircled by high pressure belts. The semidiurnal changes in barometric pressure are not explainable by the mechanistic principles of gravitation and the heat effect of solar radiation. The cause of these variations is unknown.


“It has been known now for two and a half centuries, that there are more or less daily variations in the height of the barometer, culminating in two maxima and two minima during the course of 24 hours. The same observation has been made and puzzled over at every station at which pressure records were kept and studied, but without success in finding for it the complete physical explanation. In speaking of the diurnal and semidiurnal variations of the barometer, Lord Rayleigh says: ‘The relative magnitude of the latter [semidiurnal variations], as observed at most parts of the earth’s surface, is still a mystery, all the attempted explanations being illusory.’”


One maximum is at 10 a.m., the other at 10 p.m.; the two minima are at 4 a.m. and 4 p.m. The heating effect of the sun can explain neither the time when the maxima appear nor the time of the minima of these semidiurnal variations. If the pressure becomes lower without the air becoming lighter through a lateral expansion due to heat, this must mean that the same mass of air gravitates with changing force at different hours.




GASES IN THE ATMOSPHERE DO NOT OBEY AN ATTRACTIVE GRAVITATIONAL LAW

The ingredients of the air—oxygen, nitrogen, argon and other gases—though not in a compound but in a mixture, are found in equal proportions at various levels of the atmosphere despite great differences in specific weights. The explanation accepted in science is this: “Swift winds keep the gases thoroughly mixed, so that except for water-vapor the composition of the atmosphere is the same throughout the troposphere to a high degree of approximation.”  This explanation cannot be true. If it were true, then the moment the wind subsides, the nitrogen should stream upward, and the oxygen should drop, preceded by the argon. If winds are caused by a difference in weight between warm and cold air, the difference in weight between heavy gases high in the atmosphere and light gases at the lower levels should create storms, which would subside only after they had carried each gas to its natural place in accordance with its gravity or specific weight. But nothing of the kind happens.

When some aviators expressed the belief that “pockets of noxious gas” are in the air, the scientists replied:

“There are no ‘pockets of noxious gas.’ No single gas, and no other likely mixture of gases, has, at ordinary temperatures and pressures, the same density as atmospheric air. Therefore, a pocket of foreign gas in that atmosphere would almost certainly either bob up like a balloon, or sink like a stone in water.”

Why, then, do not the atmospheric gases separate and stay apart in accordance with the specific gravities?


Ozone, though heavier than oxygen, is absent in the lower layers of the atmosphere, is present in the upper layers, and is not subject to the “mixing effect of the wind.” The presence of ozone high in the atmosphere suggests that oxygen must be still higher: “As oxygen is less dense than ozone, it will tend to rise to even greater heights.”  Nowhere is it asked why ozone does not descend of its own weight or at least why it is not mixed by the wind with other gases.


Liquids do not obey an attractive gravitational law:

Over the oceans, the gravitational pull is greater than over the continents, though according to the theory of gravitation the reverse should be true; the hypothesis of isostasy also is unable to explain this phenomenon. The gravitational pull drops at the coast line of the continents. Furthermore, the distribution of gravitation in the sea often has the peculiarity of being stronger where the water is deeper. “In the whole Gulf and Caribbean region the generalization seems to hold that the deeper the water, the more strongly positive the anomalies.”

As far as observations could establish, the sea tides do not influence the plumb line, which is contrary to what is expected. Observations on reservoirs of water, where the mass of water could be increased and decreased, gave none of the results anticipated on the basis of the theory of gravitation.


Solids do not obey an attractive gravitational law:

Dr Kozyrev's experiments began in the 1950s and were conducted since the 1970s with the ongoing assistance of Dr V. V. Nasonov, who helped to standardise the laboratory methods and the statistical analysis of the results. Detectors using rotation and vibration were specially designed and made that would react in the presence of torsion fields, which Kozyrev called the "flow of time".

It is important to remember that these experiments were conducted under the strictest conditions, repeated in hundreds or in many cases thousands of trials and were written about in extensive mathematical detail. They have been rigorously peer-reviewed, and Lavrentyev and others have replicated the results independently.


According to the theory developed by N.A.Kozyrev, time and rotation are closely interconnected. In order to verify his theory, N.A.Kozyrev conducted a series of experiments with spinning gyroscopes. The goal of these experiments was to make a measurement of the forces arising while the gyroscope was spinning. N.A.Kozyrev detected that the weight of the spinning gyroscope changes slightly depending on the angular velocity and the direction of rotation. The effect he discovered was not large, but the nature of the arising forces could not be explained by existing theories. N.A.Kozyrev explained the observed effect as being the manifestation of some "physical properties of time".



In Dr. Bruce DePalma's Spinning Ball Experiment, a ball spinning at 27,000 RPM and a non-spinning ball were catapulted side-by-side with equal momentum and projection angle. In defiance of all who reject the ether as unrealistic, the spinning ball actually weighed less, and traveled higher than its non-spinning counterpart.


DePalma and his assistants were experts for photograph recording of high speed motions. In 1974 they studied parabolic curves of bodies thrown upward, using ball bearings and catapults. Ball bearings were put into rotation before start and also not-rotating likely objects were used for comparison. In 1977 these experiments were repeated by most precisely working equipment and Bruce DePalma published paper entitled ´Understanding the Dropping of the Spinning Ball Experiment´. His astonishment clearly is expressed, e.g. by this section:

Basically the spinning object going higher than the identical non-rotating control with the same initial velocity, and, then falling faster than the identical non-rotating control; present a dilemma which can only be resolved or understood -- on the basis of radically new concepts in physics -- concepts so radical that only the heretofore un-understood results of other experiments, (the elastic collision of a rotating and an identical non- rotating object, et al.), and new conceptions of physics growing out of the many discussions and correspondence pertaining to rotation, inertia, gravity, and motion in general.

It CANNOT be explained without the ether concept: the flagrant violation of Newton's laws, means that for the same mass, the same supposed law of universal gravitation, the spinning ball actually weighed less.


http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php/topic,50942.msg1248776.html#msg1248776

(Mountainous masses do not exert the gravitational pull expected by the theory of gravitation)

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Flat Earth Media / Re: Book of Enoch and the flat Earth
« on: May 23, 2015, 07:51:49 AM »
The Book of Enoch includes many chapters which have been added later, so one has to be careful, to correctly deduce which passages are the original ones.


The geography of the Book of Enoch includes descriptions of the center of the Earth, the Garden of Eden, and of the land which is to be found beyond Antarctica, beyond the dome which separates the orbits of the Sun/Moon/Black Sun/Shadow Moon/stars/planets.


Here is the correct interpretation of the geographical terms used by Enoch in describing the true location of the center of the Earth:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=45731.msg1130692#msg1130692



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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The rotation of stars in FET
« on: May 20, 2015, 03:10:19 PM »
It claims the correct distribution/shape of the continents:




The boundary for the northern circumpolar star map can be deduced with some accuracy.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/Chapter2.htm

"The `Pole,' magnetically speaking, is a very extended area that crosses the Polar Basin from one continent to the other. It is at least 1,000 miles long, and more likely can be said to exist as a rather diffused line for 1,000 miles more. (It is really not a point in the far north, but is the rim of the polar opening, since after Admiral Byrd passed it and entered the polar opening leading to the Earth's interior, he left the Arctic ice and snow behind and entered a warmer territory - Author. ) Thus when Admiral Peary (and any other Arctic explorer who used a magnetic compass) claims to have `reached' the Pole, he is making a very vague claim indeed. He can only say that he reached a point, which can be anywhere in a demonstrable 2,000 mile area (the magnetic rim of the polar opening), where his compass pointed straight down. A noteworthy achievement, but not a `discovery of the Pole.'



http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierra_hueca/tierrahueca/Chapter5.htm


The region the HE take as the entrance to the inner earth, is actually the region on the Flat Earth which cannot be accessed by either land, sea or air, as the expeditions of both Peary and Cook proved clearly: neither could discover the North Pole at all (in Antarctica, we have already seen how R. Scott was assasinated in an earlier discussion). The curvature paradox also applied equally well to the HE hypothesis: since there is no curvature at the surface of the Earth, the Hollow Earth cannot be true.


The boundary consists of aether, a very dense form of energy (see my messages on the FES threads on the Black Sun photographs in Antarctica, also the Allais effect).

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