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Flat Earth Theory / To be serious, FET must have a Flat Earth Map showing the shortest route.

« on: July 31, 2020, 12:15:28 PM »

The idea that known flight times, flight paths, and flight distances weaken the various different FE models is something that has been discussed dozens, if not hundreds of times. Here is a large array of responses:


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74707.msg2045126#msg2045126
"If you find a video show full flight of a travel between Chile and Australia, then there will be a possibility that path it exist."
-These flights only exist if you can produce a full video of the entire flight.

That doesn't answer anything. We don't need any video of a flight. Such a flight is possible, between any 2 points, whether the flight is done or not, or whether or not it's recorded.

The question is whether the shortest route would be north from Argentina (or Chile) across Canada, based on the Flat Earth map. Is there an answer to this or not? We don't need any video of the flight to just answer that question.

The remaining "responses" to the question, in the list noted above, are not responsive to this question. E.g., saying there is no Flat Earth map, or no map Flat-Earthers all agree on. If that's the answer, then it just means the FET is refuted, because the only legitimate map is one based on the "round" earth theory, and there can be no Flat Earth Theory without a map showing the Flat Earth and the shortest route between any 2 points.

This whole website is really just a joke -- right? You don't give serious answers to anything. You're just doing this for fun-and-games.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: simple test of FLAT vs. ROUND Earth - route from Buenos Aires to Melbourne

« on: July 31, 2020, 11:55:17 AM »

The idea that known flight times, flight paths, and flight distances weaken the various different FE models is something that has been discussed dozens, if not hundreds of times. Here is a large array of responses:


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74707.msg2044714#msg2044714
"Don't trust  aircraft companies such as Qantas and Latam by their claims about flight times. These are liars."

This doesn't answer the question. It's not about claims by any aircraft company. Or who the liars are.

The question is about the Flat Earth map and about the shortest route from Argentina to Australia. Doesn't the published Flat Earth map have the shortest route being northward from Argentina rather than westward across the Pacific Ocean? Yes or no?

If there is no serious answer to this, then it means this website is only a joke, and those posting it know the earth is "round" rather than flat.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: simple test of FLAT vs. ROUND Earth - route from Buenos Aires to Melbourne

« on: July 31, 2020, 11:48:04 AM »

The idea that known flight times, flight paths, and flight distances weaken the various different FE models is something that has been discussed dozens, if not hundreds of times. Here is a large array of responses:


https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=74707.msg2046469#msg2046469

 "This flight has never been existed."

That doesn't respond to the question. It doesn't matter if the "flight" exists or not. The two locations do exist and it's possible to travel from one to the other.

So, if that Flat Earth map is correct, doesn't it mean that the Flat Earth shortest route would be north from Argentina across Canada and the North Pole and then across China?

If no one is willing to answer this question, then everyone here agrees that the Earth is NOT flat, and this website is not serious, but is a joke.

Or, if that Flat Earth map is incorrect, then why don't they take it down and replace it with the REAL FLAT EARTH MAP? Or, if there is no Flat Earth map, then the Flat Earth theory is refuted, because there MUST be such a map in order for the Flat Earth theory to be correct.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: simple test of FLAT vs. ROUND Earth - route from Buenos Aires to Melbourne

« on: July 31, 2020, 11:39:14 AM »

The idea that known flight times, flight paths, and flight distances weaken the various different FE models is something that has been discussed dozens, if not hundreds of times. Here is a large array of responses:

https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=16219.msg217416#msg217416
Sometimes flight paths support one FE model and sometimes they support another FE model or even the RE model when flying from point A to point B

The only "model" which matters is the Flat Earth map. Is that map for real or not? If it's serious, then the question is: Which direction would the route be, from Argentina? Would it not be north across Canada and the North Pole, and then across China to reach Australia? And couldn't that easily be tested by just having one plane take that route and another take the route West from Argentina across the Pacific? Would this not be a legitimate test of that Flat Earth map?

Or if that's not the real Flat Earth map, then where is the real Flat Earth map? If there is none, then the Flat Earth theory is refuted, because there MUST BE A MAP showing the Flat Earth if the earth really is flat.

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Flat Earth Theory / Couldn't Flat-Earth be confirmed or disproved by this simple test?

« on: July 27, 2020, 05:55:17 AM »

That issue is discussed on the wiki, which I link https://wiki.tfes.org/Issues_in_Flight_Analysis without comment. Theories include winds, mistakes about flight times.

That does not answer my question.

But I'll clarify: Am I interpreting the Flat Earth map and theory correctly that it says the shortest route would be north from Argentina across North America and across the North Pole and across Siberia and China? That's what the map seems to show, but is that correct? i.e., is that what FES map/theory is saying?

In other words, FES claims you get there most directly by going that direction rather than west across the S. Pacific? Is that what FES claims?

And wouldn't that be a simple test to perform, with one flight going north and another going west, to see how long it takes? both going the same speed? and if the flight going west gets there sooner, that would disprove the FE, would it not?

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Flat Earth Theory / simple test of FLAT vs. ROUND Earth - route from Buenos Aires to Melbourne

« on: July 26, 2020, 09:37:53 AM »

Sorry if this is already answered in the FAQ.

What is the shortest route from Argentina to southern Australia? Isn't this a simple test of the Flat Earth vs. the "round" earth theory?

Doesn't the Flat Earth shortest route go north from Argentina across the western Atlantic and Canada and North Pole and Siberia and China?

Whereas the "round" earth shortest route goes west from Argentina across the south Pacific?

Doesn't the Flat Earth map -- https://wiki.tfes.org/Flat_Earth_Maps#Monopole_Models -- show the shortest route to be north across Canada etc.? which obviously is not the shortest route anyone would choose? I.e., wouldn't even a Flat-Earther choose the route west across the Pacific rather than north across Canada?