[Mostlyharmless]

I have a question for FETers: how do you explain sunsets? By this I mean the moment when the sun is seen to sink below the horizon, bottom first, in a way that cannot be explained by it moving away. I have read the wiki on the topic of "sinking ships" and was extremely dissatisfied by the evidence of "accounts" of them being restored by telescopes, which could easily have been faked. Moreover, as the sun is a source of light, it wouldn't seem to half dissappear but should (according to FET) simply fade away, like a lamp in fog. It does not.

[Rushy]

The atmolayer is not transparent and is in fact quite opaque. As the Sun moves away, it becomes not only dimmer, but redshifts as well, eventually disappearing entirely. The horizon is an optical illusion caused by the opacity of the atmolayer.

[Mostlyharmless]

The atmolayer is not transparent and is in fact quite opaque. As the Sun moves away, it becomes not only dimmer, but redshifts as well, eventually disappearing entirely. The horizon is an optical illusion caused by the opacity of the atmolayer.

What kind of optical illusion do  you mean?

[Rushy]

What kind of optical illusion do  you mean?

Due to opacity and refraction the sky and land appear to meet when they never do.

[markjo]

The atmolayer is not transparent and is in fact quite opaque.

How can one see several miles through a medium that is "quite opaque"? 

[Mostlyharmless]

What kind of optical illusion do  you mean?

Due to opacity and refraction the sky and land appear to meet when they never do.

Then why can you see the sun half set?

[Rushy]

Then why can you see the sun half set?

As the Sun becomes farther away, only portions of it will be shielded from site. Notice that the Sun fades away gradually at the terminator, it doesn't suddenly disappear like a true horizon on a spherical world would cause.

[Jura-Glenlivet]

No... I'm pretty sure it does.

[Mostlyharmless]

Then why can you see the sun half set?

As the Sun becomes farther away, only portions of it will be shielded from site. Notice that the Sun fades away gradually at the terminator, it doesn't suddenly disappear like a true horizon on a spherical world would cause.

Yeah..  it does actually  sink clearly...

[Rushy]

This isn't the debate section, so I'm not going to argue with you. Q&A section is where I give the FE answer for your question.

[Mostlyharmless]

This isn't the debate section, so I'm not going to argue with you. Q&A section is where I give the FE answer for your question.

My apologies, I was told to redirect my line of questioning to Q&A. Allow me to rephrase:
FETers, how do you explain this:

?  The video shows the sun clearly sinking below the horizon, not fading away.

[jroa]

This isn't the debate section, so I'm not going to argue with you. Q&A section is where I give the FE answer for your question.

My apologies, I was told to redirect my line of questioning to Q&A. Allow me to rephrase:
FETers, how do you explain this:
{video link}
?  The video shows the sun clearly sinking below the horizon, not fading away.

Did you notice that your video also shows everything getting dark, even before the sun appears to "sink" below the horizon?  It is almost as if the light is fading away, is it not? 

[Rushy]

The video shows the sun clearly sinking below the horizon, not fading away.

I guess that is a matter of opinion, since it looks like it is fading away to me.

[Mostlyharmless]

This isn't the debate section, so I'm not going to argue with you. Q&A section is where I give the FE answer for your question.

My apologies, I was told to redirect my line of questioning to Q&A. Allow me to rephrase:
FETers, how do you explain this:
{video link}
?  The video shows the sun clearly sinking below the horizon, not fading away.

Did you notice that your video also shows everything getting dark, even before the sun appears to "sink" below the horizon?  It is almost as if the light is fading away, is it not?

Yes, because the sun's rays are spread out.

[Mostlyharmless]

The video shows the sun clearly sinking below the horizon, not fading away.

I guess that is a matter of opinion, since it looks like it is fading away to me.

You cannot deny this. It isn't fading away. It is clearly sinking.

[Rushy]

Yes, because the sun's rays are spread out.

The Sun's rays are always parallel to each other on a round earth.

You cannot deny this. It isn't fading away. It is clearly sinking.

I'm not going to say your opinion is wrong, but to me it appears to be gradually fading. The back disappears, yes, but watch the entire body as it fades, as well as the terminator.

[markjo]

Yes, because the sun's rays are spread out.

The Sun's rays are always parallel to each other on a round earth.

Do you mean parallel like railroad tracks?

[Rushy]

Do you mean parallel like railroad tracks?

I wasn't aware there were multiple types of parallel. Could you explain what you mean?

[Mostlyharmless]

Do you mean parallel like railroad tracks?

It is not the parallel quality, rather the angle  at which they hit the earth. If they are directly , then the rays will be focused, resulting in hotter, brighter rays. If they hit at a wide angle, then the rays will be  less and less hot. 

I wasn't aware there were multiple types of parallel. Could you explain what you mean?

[markjo]

Do you mean parallel like railroad tracks?

I wasn't aware there were multiple types of parallel. Could you explain what you mean?

You claimed that the sun's rays are parallel on a round earth.  I'm just trying to get you to justify your claim.