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Flat Earth Theory / Moonbounce propagation time and the distance of the Moon from Earth

« on: February 01, 2022, 02:38:36 PM »

It's possible to bounce a radio wave off the moon and back in what's called a 'moonbounce' and is a popular feat of skill for radio amateurs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Earth_communication

There are a multitude of videos online of people pulling off a moonbounce.




From above video >> "Looking at the signal at 10:28. I used the 2 second transmit time as a time-length reference. From the beginning of the transmission to the beginning of the echo, I measure 2.5 seconds, which is round trip time. So, 1.25 seconds one way. 1.25 seconds times 186,000 miles per second (radio wave speed) = 232,500 miles. Google shows 238,900 miles, average distance. Not bad using ruler measuring the signal on the computer screen."

The FE Wiki claims the moon is only 3000 miles above the surface of the Earth. If this were true, the propagation time for a radio wave to travel to the Moon and back would be 32.2 milliseconds.

It is a quite elegant and simple experiment for any Flat Earthers who wish to deduce for themselves the true distance of the Moon.

I look forward to the wild theories and postulations to explain why radio waves take 78x longer to travel to the moon and back in the Flat Earth model.

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Technology & Information / China Space Station

« on: July 07, 2021, 08:36:12 AM »

China's independent space station is finally up and running, and they are releasing a ton of interesting youtube content to go with it.





How does the conspiracy theory evolve with the fact that, in spite of being blackballed by NASA at every step of participation, has caught up to the space-station building stage of its space program? Who is the Chinese visionary filmmaker who is spearheading this hoax?

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Flat Earth Theory / Flat Earth History of the Earth

« on: March 23, 2021, 05:18:56 PM »

Flat Earth theories attempt to describe the way the world is now, but does it have any way of describing the history of the Earth, and of the Universe, the way 'Round Earth' theory does? For reference, here is a summarized chronology of the history of the Solar System (and predicted future events) that are currently mainstream and widely accepted.


List of Peer Reviewed Citations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protoplanetary_disk#References

Here are the questions:

1. How did the Flat Earth come into being?

2. How old is the Flat Earth?

3. How did the Sun and the other Planets come into being?

4. How did the Moon come into being?

In accepted models of the solar system's history, the answer to most of the above questions is 'gravity'. The 0.01% of the mass of the proto solar disc that did not end up in the Sun, constitutes the matter that coalesced under the gravity caused by its own mass to form the planets.

Does Flat Earth have any explanations, or theories, as to the origin of the world as we know it, that precludes a creator-god?

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Flat Earth Theory / A Simulated Flat Earth

« on: January 21, 2021, 04:59:12 PM »

Nick Bostrom postulates the following, that we are statistically very likely to be living in a computer simulation at this very moment:

Many works of science fiction as well as some forecasts by serious technologists and futurologists predict that enormous amounts of computing power will be available in the future. Let us suppose for a moment that these predictions are correct. One thing that later generations might do with their super-powerful computers is run detailed simulations of their forebears or of people like their forebears. Because their computers would be so powerful, they could run a great many such simulations. Suppose that these simulated people are conscious (as they would be if the simulations were sufficiently fine-grained and if a certain quite widely accepted position in the philosophy of mind is correct). Then it could be the case that the vast majority of minds like ours do not belong to the original race but rather to people simulated by the advanced descendants of an original race.

He concludes:

It is then possible to argue that, if this were the case, we would be rational to think that we are likely among the simulated minds rather than among the original biological ones.

Therefore, if we don't think that we are currently living in a computer simulation, we are not entitled to believe that we will have descendants who will run lots of such simulations of their forebears.

Essentially, if there is even a chance that we will develop supercomputers capable of universal simulation at any point in the future, then chances are that we've already done it and are currently inhabitants of one. 

In my view, a Flat Earth is totally plausible under Simulation Theory.

If we are living in a simulation of Earth in the 21st century, it wouldn't be computationally optimal to simulate the whole dang universe. Just a projected texture of a sky like a skybox would do. A flat earth that is infinitely accelerating upwards with a small star and moon, might actually be a computationally simpler task to simulate than a massive object in the distance. All the tricks that game designers use to optimize their games, ie simulations, are in play. Object permanence may be called into question as well.

Simulation Theory would also explain how there are millions if not billions of people unaware of the true nature of the planet. As the human mind would merely be information there is absolutely no limit to how it could be manipulated by higher-order beings.

If we one day also create a universal simulator then we can simply assume that the structure of the multiverse is turtles simulations all the way down.