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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 10, 2020, 11:07:52 PM »
Here's how Trump can still win

Yep.

https://thegoptimes.com/chair-of-the-federal-election-commission-drops-bombshell-announcement/

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The top boss of all the election officials, Trey Trainor, confirms that in his professional opinion, this election is “illegitimate.”

Trey Trainor who serves as chairman for the Federal Election Commission is personally convinced that, from what he’s seen in Pennsylvania, and reports he’s been getting from elsewhere in the country, this election is illegitimate.

He dropped a bombshell on the liberal network news media during an appearance at Newsmax when he made the announcement that he believes “that there is voter fraud taking place in these places.”


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: November 10, 2020, 04:07:28 AM »



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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: November 09, 2020, 05:56:09 AM »
Compilation of people celebrating too early


2724
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 08, 2020, 09:42:14 PM »
Mathematicians scrutinized Biden's victory in PA and identified significant questionable irregularities in some counties as compared to others:

https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/

Sure.  Go for it.  Check and double check.

Not that it'll matter but do it anyway.  Although his analysis could be wrong because he is basing it on two things:

1. The last election.
2. Party registration.

Neither of these is a constant.  While Republicans generally vote republican, they don't have to.  They CAN vote Democrat if they think Trump is an ass.  And the last election, Trump was an unknown(politically) and Hillary had baggage.  This one, Trump is WELL known and Biden is boring.

Incorrect. They compared different counties in the 2020 election and different candidates in the 2020 election in those counties, not only 2016 data. Biden had major problems.

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Oh well, that's interesting. Suddenly you care about people's qualifications? You don't pay much heed to that when it comes to the shape of the earth and people with science degrees...

Actually the Wiki is filled with references from people with science degrees.

The fact is that you guys have presented no qualified source which can rebut the work of these PhD's who are recommending recount or audit to the PA legislature.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 08, 2020, 07:53:12 PM »
Mathematicians scrutinized Biden's victory in PA and identified significant questionable irregularities in some counties as compared to others:

https://thenationalpulse.com/politics/pennsylvania-vote-anomalies/

Meanwhile, your source suggesting that no fraud occurred from TLDR is some guy with an IT degree:

From the video:



From linkedin:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackkelly96/?originalSubdomain=uk




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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 07, 2020, 09:38:55 PM »
After his golf game today he took the time to take wedding pictures.

https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1325161720491483136

Video of him leaving the golf course and encountering wedding ceremony. So calm and collected. He already knows he's got it.

Some lady behind the camera says "Are you kidding me right now??"

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 07, 2020, 07:36:05 PM »
Trump went golfing this morning when he knew the media was likely to call for Biden. Show of strength and confidence.



https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/nation-world/president-trump-at-virginia-golf-club-as-vote-counts-continue/507-fa4a6bb9-2ca3-4380-8d96-4a367b7d13a8

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: November 07, 2020, 01:21:53 AM »
The purpose of watermarks and security features is to create a premeditated sting to bust fraudsters. Why should it matter which organization put them on the ballots? You guys are just arguing about which organization put the security features on them. Pretty weak argument.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: November 07, 2020, 12:49:27 AM »
I'm saying that the conspiracy theory he's referring to is nonsense. There's no secret watermark sting about to bust the Democrats.

The purpose of putting on the watermarks and security features is literally to make a sting to bust fraudsters. What do you mean there is no secret sting?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: November 07, 2020, 12:07:31 AM »
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The secret watermarks that are going to prove that Biden and the Democrats produced a bunch of fake ballots don't exist. That's what J-Man was talking about, and that's what I was talking about. To interject with "but ballots do have watermarks" is a quibble and does not contribute to the discussion.

There are watermarks and security features on the ballots to prevent fake ballots, though. Are you arguing that J-Man claimed that one organization was putting on those security features when it may have been another organization?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: November 06, 2020, 08:21:13 PM »
The context of what I said speaks for itself.

What context is that? You said that the ballots have not been watermarked. They have been.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Joe Biden is winning by a landslide
« on: November 06, 2020, 07:00:12 PM »
No, the ballots have not been watermarked. Don't be stupid.

Uhh...

https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/news/10346-ballots-are-secure-knowledge-on-vote-by-mail-is

    "Ballots, like money, are printed on special fraud-resistant paper, with particular size, thickness, weight, texture, color, and formats made to exact specifications. Furthermore, the paper is impressed with unique identifiers, such as watermarks, that certify it as an official ballot."

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: November 06, 2020, 04:32:43 AM »





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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 04, 2020, 02:22:06 AM »
That sounds like he's talking about something that could maybe happen.

It doesn't sound like a claim or promise to get it by election day to me. You have shown Rama Set's claim to be incorrect. Perhaps the never-Trumpers here should come up with their own arguments rather than parroting everything they read from their biased, lying liberal source.

2735
Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 03, 2020, 11:57:30 PM »
Well I searched "trump covid vaccine claim"  and got this as a first hit in 0.01s

https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/7340386/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-claims/amp/

Article title from September 16: "Trump contradicts health officials, claims coronavirus vaccine could be ready next month"

But it's a canadian source, so who really knows, there was still hockey on at the time.

According to the video in that link Trump said in September that the vaccine "could" be ready in mid October or "maybe" later.

That is not a claim that the vaccine will be ready by election day.


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So we can say the police aren't definitely siding with anyone?  Wow.

We can say that the police sided with the truck as victim and not with your position.

I'm not so sure. There's a different quote from the San Marcos PD. Originally the incident was called into the Kyle PD, but it turned out it was San Marcos' jurisdiction, not Kyle's.

From the San Marcos Record newspaper dated 11/1. Here’s the statement from the PD they got. Almost identical to yours except no fault around “may” is mentioned:

“As the travel continued on (I-35), a Biden Harris staffer called Kyle PD to report a vehicle incident on (I-35) at or near Exit 213 which is in their jurisdiction. Following research of the incident and viewing online video, it appears the crash occurred in SMPD jurisdiction and not where the caller reported,” SMPD said in a statement. “Also, the at-fault vehicle is uncertain from video available. Calls to the driver of the white SUV have gone unanswered and SMPD has not been contacted by the driver of the black truck. Since SMPD has not spoken to either driver at this time, additional investigation will be required to fully ascertain who was at fault.”
https://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/news-news-alert/smpd-says-further-investigation-needed-biden-campaign-bus-incident

Your article is dated 11/1. Their announcement that the police see the black truck as the victim is posted later on that site.

Five hours ago that same website posted:





Link takes us to an article posted on 11/2:

https://www.sanmarcosrecord.com/news/smpd-working-cooperation-fbi-investigation-biden-bus-incident#.X6DXxD5Hhdw.twitter

Where it says:

    “Available video footage makes it appear as though the at-fault vehicle may be the white SUV and the victim appears to be the black truck as supported by a Kyle Police report,” SMPD said in a statement.

The police updated their opinion and suggest that the black truck is the victim.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 03, 2020, 10:09:04 PM »
This was the claim:

Remember when Trump said he would have a vaccine by the election? Yeesh me too...

This is what Trump said:

Quote from: Trump
We’re going to have a vaccine very soon, maybe even before a very special date. You know what date I’m talking about

So Trump did not say, promise, or claim that we would have a vaccine by the election. At best he said "maybe".

Claimant is incorrect.

Quote from: Rama Set
So we can say the police aren't definitely siding with anyone?  Wow.

We can say that the police sided with the truck as victim and not with your position.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 03, 2020, 08:46:03 PM »
Remember when Trump said he would have a vaccine by the election? Yeesh me too...

I don't remember that. Looks like a fib. Trump suggested that looked promising to come before the end of the year.

    Good numbers coming out of States that are opening. America is getting its life back! Vaccine work is looking VERY promising, before end of year. Likewise, other solutions!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 14, 2020

There are multiple other instances where he said it could be ready by the election.

So why have you neglected to provide a quote or screenshot then?

You clearly do not have one and can only insist on this fib.

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Sounds like they aren't offering a definitive opinion actually.  Otherwise they would just say the victim is the black truck.  But you do you.

Who said that any opinion had to be definitive? The police gave an opinion siding with the black truck rather than with what you wanted them to side with.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 03, 2020, 08:37:11 PM »
Remember when Trump said he would have a vaccine by the election? Yeesh me too...

I don't remember that. Looks like a fib. Trump suggested that it looked promising to come before the end of the year.



Tom, the police said the at fault vehicle "may be" the SUV.  That isn't siding with anything.  I am sure you know this and are just spinning, but it's worth pointing out.

The police said that the victim appears to be the truck driver. The police are siding with the truck and not the SUV.

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/democrats-cancel-central-texas-events-after-trump-supporters-surround-follow-biden-bus-on-i-35/

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The police department also said it has researched the crash and watched online video. It said the “at-fault vehicle” may be the Biden-Harris staffer’s car, while the “victim” appears to be one of the Trump vehicles.

“The at-fault vehicle may be the white SUV and the victim appears to be the black truck,” a statement from SMPD reads.

"May be" "appears to be"

They aren't siding with anyone.  These are not definitive statements.

If the police are saying that the victim appears to be the black truck, they are siding their opinion with the truck.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Terrible Political Memes
« on: November 03, 2020, 08:05:57 AM »







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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: November 02, 2020, 06:38:12 PM »
Tom, the police said the at fault vehicle "may be" the SUV.  That isn't siding with anything.  I am sure you know this and are just spinning, but it's worth pointing out.

The police said that the victim appears to be the truck driver. The police are siding with the truck and not the SUV.

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/democrats-cancel-central-texas-events-after-trump-supporters-surround-follow-biden-bus-on-i-35/

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The police department also said it has researched the crash and watched online video. It said the “at-fault vehicle” may be the Biden-Harris staffer’s car, while the “victim” appears to be one of the Trump vehicles.

“The at-fault vehicle may be the white SUV and the victim appears to be the black truck,” a statement from SMPD reads.

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