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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Free Speech Warrior Elon Musk

« on: December 19, 2022, 10:22:35 PM »

But on the Right, all you need to do is make the most crazy people happy and you should be good to go.

Why do you think Trump ran as a republican?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 19, 2022, 08:06:02 PM »

Well, we'll see how this plays out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jan-6-committee-condemns-trump-as-central-cause-of-insurrection-in-sweeping-report/ar-AA15ssDw?cvid=13c2a13e33e44971be49f9ab38d9e471

4 charges including insurrection.

I actually wish I had a Truth Social account just to see what the con man posts.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 16, 2022, 08:33:14 PM »

I would like off the meme universe ride now, please. I have had enough.

I like to think Trump browsed the “terrible political memes” thread and was inspired.

I mean he probably believes the Earth is flat, so who knows?

No way.  He's a champion of the Space Force.  Pew! Pew!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Biden is using American taxpayer money to pay off my loans

« on: December 16, 2022, 08:32:17 PM »

Silly rabbit.  That money should go to the defense budget.

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Technology & Information / Re: T-minus 10 hours - Artemis Mission to Moon

« on: December 16, 2022, 05:09:08 PM »

Being dropped out of a military transport plane doesn't count.

Sneaky NASA

So sneaky that all of air traffic control didn't notice a military transport plane in the vicinity.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 16, 2022, 02:52:37 PM »

"I can’t believe I'm going to jail for an NFT salesman,"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maga-rioter-can-t-believe-he-s-going-to-jail-for-trump-after-watching-trading-card-stunt/ar-AA15kc3R?cvid=cb4e283266b0424296409ce5259299be

Reality sucks.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 15, 2022, 08:07:01 PM »

Tom Bishop

Better hurry.  No telling how fast these will be gobbled up.  Better get the complete set.  Hurry!!!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-nfts-are-the-big-announcement-promised-by-the-former-president-and-they-re-drawing-strong-reactions/ar-AA15kdGe?cvid=051d8ab653304683a4788dae57722916

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do FE meteors work

« on: December 15, 2022, 05:16:34 PM »

Perhaps you should also look at the entry on Universal Acceleration.  Universal, as in, it accelerates the entire universe (except for things on the the surface of the earth and some undetermined distance above).

That's my curiosity.  The meteor starts out from a position where UA should be accelerating it like all other heavenly bodies.  Perhaps the explanation would be that meteors exist at a level where they are just slightly out of the full effect of  UA. As such, they are ever so slowly 'falling' toward the earth and at some point enter the atmosphere.  I guess that would work.  Of course AATW makes a point that this doesn't cover.

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Flat Earth Theory / How do FE meteors work

« on: December 14, 2022, 03:29:39 PM »

I know, the simple answer to the thread title is just like RE meteors.

With the Geminids coming up I started thinking how meteors would work in the FE model. As I would understand FE theory, a meteor would have to start out under the effect of UA and be accelerated at the same rate as the earth.  Afterall, it starts at a distance from earth similar to all of the other celestial bodies so why would it not be affected by UA the same way.  What causes a meteor to suddenly lose acceleration and 'fall' into the Earth's atmosphere.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Parental Licensing and Why We Need It

« on: December 11, 2022, 03:46:10 PM »

But what if you end up preventing the birth of the man who killed Hitler!

More importantly, what if you end up preventing the birth of the person that can definitively proof the earth is flat?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 09, 2022, 04:14:15 PM »

How do you know what they would say?

Well, based on the totally unscientific and meaningless sample size of the posts since yours it appears that I'm on the right track.

do you have any authentic pics of the same occurrence?

Evidently reading the thread you're posting in is not your thing.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 09, 2022, 02:17:58 AM »

How come an image such as this one has never been seen (the top image in the below link) ? i.e. a boat cruising along parallel to the coastline just beyond the horizon. If anyone saw this they would think it was sinking and call the coastguard.

WTF......Seriously.

The majority of the people in the world would simply say, "Oh, look at that ship beyond the horizon."
It's an everyday occurrence.  Why would it warrant a call to the coastguard?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: December 08, 2022, 03:43:40 PM »

Now, you can invoke EA to explain this I guess,

Didn't want to copy your whole post.  Recap, you could invoke EA as to why a ship's hull appears to go behind the horizon.

Over my morning coffee, I happened to think about the Bishop's experiment for some reason.  https://wiki.tfes.org/Experimental_Evidence  That led me to thinking about this thread and your statement.

Assuming that everything in the WIKI is truthful and accurate,  the Bishop experiment would empirically verify that EA bends light less than 20 inches at the water's surface over some 23 miles.  That being the case, EA would bend light significantly less than that at the distance of roughly 3 miles that a ship begins to sink below the horizon.  This leads to the fact, should empirical evidence be believed, the majority of the 20+ feet of cargo ship hull should be visible at distances in excess of 23 miles to sea.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: December 06, 2022, 05:08:04 PM »

The impeachment process is a process granted to legitimate Presidents, not illegitimate ones. An illegitimate President would not be granted that process. The process of impeaching the President assumes by default that it is a legitimate President.

Nonsense.  Nowhere in the constitution does it say this.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/impeach

pay attention to definition 2.

"to challenge the credibility or validity of"

That would be the purpose of impeachment in the case an election was found to be fraudulent.

Absolutely nowhere does the Constitution infer that at anytime an election would be cast out and the previous president be reinstated into the postition.  In the event that this were to actually happen, both the president and vice president would actually lose office and the Constitutionally spelled out succession would go to the speaker of the house until what time a new election could be held.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Reconciling Velikovskianism with the theory of the Flat Earth

« on: December 02, 2022, 06:11:03 PM »

I can't see it happening for some reason. But there must be some evidence to show that this has happened in the past - however as it cannot be replicated then the theory might take some proving.

Some would posit that the evidence is right under your feet.

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Science & Alternative Science / Re: Apollo 17

« on: November 28, 2022, 04:28:47 PM »

Just happened to be channel surfing last week and ran across the Discovery channel show Apollo: The Forgotten Films.  It's a great look at Apollo 11 for anyone interested.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: November 18, 2022, 12:28:41 AM »

But in any case, your "experiment" simply demonstrates the part I already wrote in bold above. The very thin hull in your picture will become hard to resolve at a certain distance. And yes, in that case optical magnification could "restore" it. But the reason it can be "restored" is that it isn't hidden in the first place. It isn't behind anything, it just becomes difficult to discern at a certain distance.

Which is exactly what Rowbotham is describing in Earth Not a Globe. When bodies are smaller than 1/60th of a degree they become lost to optical resolution, and are beyond perception. So, you were wrong. This effect does exist and it is reversible with optical zoom.

It's not a matter of whether it exists, it's a matter of whether or not it explains what we see with objects going beyond the horizon.  You know, that zetetic observation thingy.
 As has been clearly illustrated, Rowbotham's effect in no way illustrates what we actually observe.  No amount of optical zoom can bring back the hidden parts of the objects.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: November 17, 2022, 05:50:10 PM »

It was soo brief, appears to be a swell covering the hull with perspective issues also.

FLAT EARTH

Interesting.  A "soo brief" 30 second swell that is covering the distant ship yet there are no swells around the ship in the foreground.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: November 16, 2022, 10:13:47 PM »

There are multiple phenomena that can cause a sinking ship effect - swells, refraction, etc - https://wiki.tfes.org/Sinking_Ship_Effect

We were talking about the specific claim that the hull of a ship can be hidden with distance due to lack of optical resolution and then restored with optical zoom. There is a simple experiment that you can perform to demonstrate this:

Now take this experiment and make the height of the hull of the ship equal to the height of the sails and see what happens.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The cosmos, confusion, and further understanding

« on: November 16, 2022, 10:06:34 PM »

The WIKI explanation is utter nonsense.

Here's a video clearly illustrating that it is not any perspective related issue which hides the lower part of a vessel:



If what is in the WIKI were accurate, as a magnifying device was used to bring the vessel into view, the interface between the ship's deck and it's cargo would become visible as the entire object shrinks and grows.  This is due to the fact that the height of the ship itself is nearly as large as the height of the stack of cargo above the deck. For this video, this can be seen as the ship's tower passes.  The cargo is much lower than the tower which puts the height of the cargo reasonably close to the height of the ship.  As the video clearly shows, the entire ship has disappeared below the horizon leaving only the cargo visible.  If Rowbotham's explanation were correct this is not what we would witness.