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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on Today at 08:18:11 AM »

That's not the reason Trump gave for why Rosie O'Donnell should be stripped of citizenship. Stop making things up.

He said she "is not in the best interests of our great country" and that "she is a Threat to Humanity".
Far as I can see he didn't elaborate on either of those claims.
So what does any of that mean? What has she actually done which would make him say that?
The only thing I can actually see she's done, apart from emigrate because she can't stand to be in a country in which he's president, is be an outspoken critic of him.
And he is notoriously and embarrassingly thin skinned. So if he's not talking about her criticism of him then what is he talking about?

If you can't see the way he goes after critics of him as dangerous and "dictatory" then you are beyond help.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on July 16, 2025, 09:03:36 PM »

But Donald Trump is separate under Citrix.  Citrix is a security software.

Interesting, no?

No, not very interesting.  Citrix is virtualization software, not necessarily security software.

Yes, I am aware.  It's virtualization, primarily for security these days.

Now...why would he have it written on the address book page in big letters?  He wasn't a computer person and the word is unrelated to anything he did, as far as I know.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-releases-first-phase-declassified-epstein-files



It's not the only page with it but it's odd to note.
Also of note: some of the writing has been erased by whoever copied it.  Look at page 81.  There's a fragment of text hand written but the rest is unexpectedly cut off.  Why?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on July 16, 2025, 08:28:49 PM »

But Donald Trump is separate under Citrix.  Citrix is a security software.

Interesting, no?

No, not very interesting.  Citrix is virtualization software, not necessarily security software.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on July 16, 2025, 04:31:32 PM »

So I went into the contacts book that the DoJ released in February.

He has Robert and Blaine Trump (clearly not updated in years)
Ivana Trump, Ivanka Trump,
But Donald Trump is separate under Citrix.  Citrix is a security software.

Interesting, no?

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« Last post by Shane on July 16, 2025, 03:39:32 PM »

i know you love stories about immigrants but did you really have to post the same in two threads

did you really have to post this?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Shane on July 16, 2025, 03:24:25 PM »

He was never a big factor in terms of life.

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Arts & Entertainment / Re: Just Watched

« Last post by juner on July 16, 2025, 03:02:15 PM »

i know you love stories about immigrants but did you really have to post the same in two threads

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by garygreen on July 16, 2025, 01:58:50 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/16/donald-trump-dismisses-inquiry-into-jeffrey-epstein-as-boring

“I don’t understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody,” Trump told reporters on Tuesday night when asked why his supporters are so interested in the case. “It’s pretty boring stuff. It’s sordid, but it’s boring, and I don’t understand why it keeps going.

“I think really only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going,” he added. “But credible information, let them give it. Anything that is credible, I would say, let them have it.”

lol

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by AATW on July 16, 2025, 07:01:25 AM »

“Credible”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgl4dl334go

So…he means the stuff he’s not in, right?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on July 16, 2025, 12:55:02 AM »

The Constitution doesn't say whether it can be taken away or not. Anything not in the Constitution is for the government to decide. It also doesn't say that Citizenship is a right, like the right to free speech and the right to bare arms. If it were a right it would have been explicitly described that way with the other rights. Instead, it merely outlines who qualifies for citizenship.

Perhaps you should take another gander at the 14th amendment:

Fourteenth Amendment

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

It says that if you're born in the US, then you are a citizen.  That sounds like a right to me.  On the other hand, citizenship through immigration is a privilege that can be revoked under certain conditions.  If the constitution doesn't say that birthright citizenship can be revoked, then you shouldn't assume that it can.

This whole Rosie O'Donnell nonsense is just that, nonsense.  It's just another attempt to distract from the Epstein fiasco.