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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: July 19, 2024, 11:11:25 AM »
Holy shit...


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 18, 2024, 07:37:04 AM »
Come on, Covid, you know what to do...

And yeah, why does anyone still test for Covid? I still here people say they've got/had it occasionally, I don't get it. A friend literally had to cancel a cruise recently because she tested positive. They literally said to her had she not tested she'd have been fine to go as there aren't any rules about testing, but once they knew she had it...

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 14, 2024, 04:24:00 PM »
Yeah, those are related. Verbal slips create embarrassing headlines, so it's rather odd if you don't care about the verbal slips but care about the headlines.
I don't care about verbal slips in the sense that they don't particularly concern me - it's not that makes me think he's not for for office. That was all very clear from my full post.
The only reason these slips cause these headlines is because of the wider concerns around Biden's cognitive abilities - there are other more concerning symptoms which I also covered in my post. I also said that I don't believe either candidate would pass the cognitive tests the man mentions in the video you posted. And in that video he says that both candidates should undergo them.
The whole world is looking on in complete bemusement that these are the two options to be President for the next 4 years. My hope is that Biden is forced to see sense and step aside.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 14, 2024, 02:30:18 PM »
That's weird, because a lot of other people do care about the embarrassing headlines.
You deliberately missed out the entire context to misrepresent me. How typically dishonest of you.

I was talking about his verbal slips, you are talking about the resulting headlines which I didn’t even mention.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 13, 2024, 10:58:59 AM »
I don’t care about the word slips. Most people do that sort of thing and as embarrassing as the Putin thing was, he immediately corrected himself. The press leapt on it of course but the correction shows there was no genuine confusion about who he was introducing. It was a verbal slip, nothing more.
It’s the losing his thread and trailing off we saw in the debate which is of more concern.
I note in the video above the guy says that he thinks both candidates should do a more extended neurological test. My feeling is they’d probably both fail. Trump also rambles and is incoherent at times. He delivers it all with more energy and confidence, but that doesn’t mean he’s making sense.

They’re two old guys, of course they’re slowing down. Why would you want either of them running the country?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: UK General Election, 4 July 2024
« on: July 07, 2024, 08:21:08 PM »
It's a Catch-22, the only way to get rid of the big parties is through PR, the only way to get PR is to get rid of the big parties.
I mean, we could have a referen—
wait
wait no
let's not do that
The AV Referendum was the first of Cameron's Referendum trilogy which, like many trilogies, got worse as it went on culminating in the absolute Matrix: Revolutions of the Brexit one.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 07, 2024, 08:10:52 AM »
He is often incoherent and makes embarrassing statements.
This is true.
What you cult members refuse to acknowledge is you could say the exact same thing about Trump. The US was a global laughing stock under him too and will be again.
The fact he delivers his rambling nonsense more confidently doesn’t make it coherent.
And the endless provable lies make him look like he has no grasp of reality.
The whole world can’t believe that one of those men is going to be your next president.
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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: UK General Election, 4 July 2024
« on: July 06, 2024, 07:10:32 AM »
By the way, this election showed up once again how poor our FPTP system is.
Reform got 14.3% of the vote...5 MPs
The Lib Dems got less, 12.2%, and because of how that was distributed they got 71 MPs.

I have no time for Farage or Reform so I am quite pleased about the above, but it's clearly a poor system. It disenfranchises too many people and means you all but have to vote tactically if you want your vote to count.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 06, 2024, 05:30:14 AM »
It looks to me like he meant to say that he beat Trump in 2020, and will beat him again in 2024, but mixed up what he was about to say in his head and accidentally said that he'll beat him again in 2020. I really don't think these verbal missteps are a big deal.
That’s clearly what happened and Tom knows it. Had Trump done something similar he’d be defending him to the hilt - as he did recently with that rambling electric boat story.
This was nowhere near the level of shambolic rambling we saw in the debate from Biden, the fact that the first clip was cropped to leave out the 2024 bit demonstrates this was dishonestly intended to imply that Biden doesn’t know what year it is. If you look at the full clip it’s clear he simply misspoke. It was an unfortunate slip, but it’s dishonest to misrepresent it as Tom did above.

It’s clear that neither of these men are fit to be president. Trump is a bit more with it than Biden but not by much - the way his stories meander and ramble isn’t much better than Biden. You just have to look at a transcript of his speeches to see he’s not making much sense. And he wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked him in the face

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 05, 2024, 09:42:23 PM »
You “accidentally” left out the bit where he said immediately after that he’d beat him again in 2024.
He clearly misspoke.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Biden is fit for office (neither is Trump), but you don’t have to misrepresent stuff.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: UK General Election, 4 July 2024
« on: July 05, 2024, 07:38:39 AM »
I was a bit frustrated that Farage has finally got a foothold, but that was more than made up for by people like Liz Truss and particularly Rees-Mogg being booted out

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: UK General Election, 4 July 2024
« on: July 04, 2024, 05:33:17 PM »
It's clear that Labour will win.
But there's not the optimism there was when they won in 1997. They'll win because of how much people hate the Tories, not because they like Labour or Starmer. The latter just happens to be the only credible alternative.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: July 01, 2024, 10:48:45 AM »
It was CNN's fault. CNN's new debate format with muted mics worked against Biden. During the 2020 debates Biden was often saved from having to make a coherent non-scripted argument or response to a question because Trump would interrupt him.
So you're saying Trump sabotaged himself with his own petulance?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 30, 2024, 02:58:26 PM »
We have a two-party system where each party nominates one candidate. Wanting the party to nominate a different candidate does not mean anyone is opposed to free and fair elections.
Indeed. I wasn’t sure that Action’s “if she weighs the same as a duck then she’s made of wood and therefore a witch” level of illogical non sequitur really deserved a response.

It’s perfectly logically consistent to believe Biden is the lesser of two evils and believe that the Democrats really should be finding a better candidate.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 29, 2024, 09:34:57 PM »
Given the constant presence of a large support staff, Biden might be able to do the job for another 4 years despite his feebleness.
I said on here previously that were I in the US and had a vote I'd feel I had to go with Trump because of Biden's mental state.
I've now come to the view that whoever is elected it will be the people around them that do a lot of the heavy lifting. That being the case, I'd rather the people around Biden were in power than the people around Trump.
I don't know if you say John Oliver's piece about it this week but it sounds like the Trump team are far more geared up to push their agenda from day 1 this time and it could be disastrous.

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Our only hope is if Biden steps aside ASAP, but I fear that's a longshot.
There must be people around him who could have a quiet word and gently tell them that he needs to step aside for the good of the party and the country. It seems like his inner circle are in denial and just reinforcing his belief that he's still up to it. The Democrats are sleepwalking into certain defeat. It's so obvious it makes my head spin that they're not doing anything about it. The only vague silver lining is there's still a long time till the election so Biden could recover from this but I can't see how he's going to suddenly perform better in the next 5 months. Trump might spout endless lies but he does so confidently which is all that seems to matter to a lot of people.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 29, 2024, 04:07:34 PM »
Yes, it is untrue that "a lot of young women" are being raped by their sisters. I suspect that he forgot his complete line of thought in his sentence and just started listing random family members associated with a person.
It is untrue.
And it’s exactly the sort of bullshit Trump comes out with routinely.
And you lap it up like the hood cult member you are. Or maybe you know he’s full of shit and just don’t care.
Biden is clearly not fit for office. But it’s equally clear that Trump isn’t either.
People outside the US - and probably many in the US - can’t believe that one of those men is going to be president for the next 4 years.
The options in the UK are depressing but they are at least physically and mentally fit to do the job.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 28, 2024, 03:42:46 PM »
Holy shit. Is there seriously no-one who could convince Biden to stand down and get someone credible to stand?
Almost anyone would beat Trump, the Democrats are literally putting the one person up against him who won't.


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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 18, 2024, 09:00:25 AM »
Anyway, the story is ridiculous, but the fact that Trump is telling a ridiculous story isn't really a big deal. His rallies are more for entertaining and riling up his fans than anything else. It doesn't matter what nonsense he says to them. They're not there to hear persuasive, logical reasoning from Trump.
All true, but the hypocrisy of them lapping up his incoherent rambling while claiming Biden is in cognitive decline is worth noting.
The truth is they're both in cognitive decline - and why wouldn't they be at their ages?
The fact that one of them is going to be US President for the next 4 years (unless they die or become incapacitated in office, which is fairly plausible either way) is making most people's head spin outside of the US, and maybe in the US too.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 17, 2024, 08:12:43 AM »
It's confusing because the video starts in the middle of a story he is telling. Try being more honest in your life.

He is talking about poorly built electric boats that barely stay afloat due to weight. The boat doesn't randomly sink in the story. They are prone to sinking and prone to possible electrocution. He is pointing out that there could be a situation in which you might be faced with jumping into shark infested waters or going down with the boat and risking electrocution. It isn't always feasible to distance yourself from the boat when it starts sinking. The all-electric boat adds more danger.
lol

And right on cue.
There's a good cult member  ;D

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