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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 21, 2021, 02:12:35 PM »

According to the FE wiki pages, the Sun and the Moon are approx. 3000 miles above the Earth and the dome is beyond the Sun & Moon. So this amateur rocket can not ´hit´ the dome at a mere 73 miles of altitude. Otherwise the Sun, Moon and stars would be outside of the dome.

I have to agree on that one and 73 miles up would barely be visible above the ground on a scale where we could see the entire flat disk. I would suggest the firmament is likely much higher, quite a few thousand miles up, although it's possible there's something else at around 73 miles up too.

Flat Earthers agree the Earth is flat (apart from mountains and valleys) with no curvature, E.g. we don't live on a globe as officially portrayed, other things regarding the nature of the realm are still up for debate.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 20, 2021, 04:52:41 PM »

Looks like Bezos just made it up to the Karman line and is currently plummeting back to Earth.

Yes another parabolic flight, except this looks much more authentic in a capsule that shoots up to high altitude, then the engines stop, the capsule is separated and continues decelerating up for a short time with no more engine thrust and then starts falling back towards the ground while they experience perceived weightlessness inside. They can pass the Karman line all they like and call it what-ever they choose to, but it's not really space.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 13, 2021, 11:30:11 PM »

Flat Earthers don't usually believe there is such thing as space

What a strange idea. How, exactly, did you arrive at this misconception?

Instead the majority believe in an impenetrable firmament

The majority? Really? By all means, please show me your data.

Many believe the appropriately named Operation Fishbowl

I think you can see where this is going by now. You clearly know squat about the modern FE movement, instead blindly quoting memes you saw on Twitter, completely unable to tell satire and trolling from reality. Don't speak on our behalf.

I have to say I'm surprised at your response since the answer to the first question is just about every flat Earth group and flat Earther I have spoken to so far, so it appears to be very different here, there's masses of videos from flat Earthers all over the Internet that discuss and attempt to prove the firmament. A lot have mentioned Operation Fishbowl, although obviously that's purely speculation. Perhaps this isn't the place for me, although I'd be interested to know how you can accommodate space into a flat Earth model.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 13, 2021, 10:37:26 PM »

The FAA begs to differ, but what do they know? As I said:

https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=23395

So I guess you won't be joining this then?

https://www.omaze.com/products/virgin-galactic-2021

Since you first claim space has an arbitrary definition,  you are essentially admitting you are terribly fond of all arbitrary pronouncements, which goes further to diminishing your credibility as a contributor, than it does to supporting Branson actually went to space.

A lot of things in life are just arbitrary definitions.  Why do Americans drive on the left side of the road and the British on the right?  So now you have 'at what specific altitude does space start?'  I haven't seen even one flat earther specify a specific altitude, but only 'those people didn't go into space'.  They might as well come to the USA and stand in the middle of a highway and yell 'HEY YOU, you should be driving on the other side of the road'  The FAA says that the pilots were official astronauts. They also have a lot of other arbitrary standards for pilots and proclaim that certain humans are authorized to leave the surface of the Earth in control of an airplane.  So far they haven't started to regulate birds of any kind.  I suspect that a crashing bird would do a lot less damage to someone on the ground than a crashing 747 (which is just another arbitrary model number assigned to that type of aircraft by Boeing).  The bottom line is that someone or some entity must proclaim a standard for behavior and/or licensing for those who engage in certain types of activities.  This has to be done for the overall safety of others.

Flat Earthers don't usually believe there is such thing as space, let alone an altitude to reach it, so Richard Branson's claim to reach it or anyone else's are lies. Instead the majority believe in an impenetrable firmament that covers the Earth like a dome, some believe towards the centre you reach this at around 70 miles up and so called "space rockets" launched by "space" agencies like Nasa never go straight up, instead they begin to change direction towards the ground before they reach it. There's a number of videos that claim to be showing rockets hitting and even scraping along the edge of the firmament however where they appear to leave a blue trail, some believe it's actually dense waters. Many believe the appropriately named Operation Fishbowl in 1962 when officially they were conducting high altitude nuclear detonation tests was a failed attempt to break through the firmament.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: The End all Explanation of Flat Earth and WHY?

« on: July 13, 2021, 04:43:57 PM »

I hit play, then saw it was just shy of 6 hours. Nope

Both this and Ewaranon's other series, The Lost History of Flat Earth are well worth your time. I am sceptical about some things he covered, but it certainly makes you think as long as you keep your mind open.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 13, 2021, 04:23:34 PM »

The FAA begs to differ, but what do they know? As I said:

https://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=23395

So I guess you won't be joining this then?

https://www.omaze.com/products/virgin-galactic-2021

I'd love to see a genuine Flat Earther win it and then report back their experience, but that's very unlikely to ever happen and such a person would need to pretend they believe they really are going into space from the surface of a globe until after the event is over because I very much doubt they'd knowingly allow a Flat Earther go up. The draw might be fair since in my opinion the people going up will truly believe they have been to space since they won't be experiencing and watching everything with a critical eye and they really will feel weightlessness.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Branson to go only 55 miles up !

« on: July 13, 2021, 12:51:37 AM »

It's a fancy high altitude plane flight where they then freefall and call that zero G like a parabolic flight, even after they'd dropped according to their own altitude meter well below even the official lower boundary of space they were apparently enjoying weightlessness inside. It even states they went to "the edge of space" in the headlines, so even officially they didn't go into space, but now apparently they've been saying this edge is up to 20% lower than first thought hence how they're saying they did reach space, oh how convenient for them and this fraud. This conman doesn't even need to let his passengers in on the scam, they will come down truly believing they went into space. Congratulations you are now officially astronauts, here's your extremely expensive certificate to prove it.

PS: There's some nice shots showing a flat horizon apart from one camera.