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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 16, 2024, 08:08:00 PM »
Holy shit.
And the hilarious thing is the cult members will defend that complete ramble with a straight face while saying that Biden is incoherent.
In fairness... What else is Trump gonna do?  Go over his vague revenge policies for the 200th time to the people who've heard it 200 times?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 15, 2024, 08:32:17 PM »


A guy from MIT does not know how a battery behaves in water?  Talk about tall tales.  Or lowest GPA.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 14, 2024, 06:49:12 PM »
LD, are you going to address Tom's point or not?

Is he making a point?

Also, Tom didn't read.

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One aide who was given a plum position on the board of Trump’s social media company, for example, got the seat after he was subpoenaed but before he testified.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 14, 2024, 06:46:44 PM »
Mask are physical, three-dimensional objects. If he were wearing a mask - and not just a thin layer of material, but a mask that's substantial enough to make him look like a different person - you would be able to see the bulge or swelling where it begins. It wouldn't be so perfectly flush with his neck that you could only tell he was wearing a mask by the difference in skin tones.

What's actually happening here are just shadows. The interviewer has something similar going on with his neck in the full video, but you can tell a bit more easily that it's shadows with him.
It is obvious there are different tones.

You are being disingenuous in your post.

What's actually happening here is this video shows somebody made up to be Joe Biden.

Yes, using CGI. Its not a mask.  Masks are stupid in this day and age.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 14, 2024, 02:21:28 PM »
You really think an evil plot using masks is not gonna match skintones?  What, is the government a B movie now?
You really think an evil plot using masks is not gonna match skintones?  What, is the government a B movie now?
Yes, the government are now faking things with all the skill of a Scooby Doo villain.
They would have gotten away with it too had it not been for those meddling internet "sleuths".

Holy shit, Tom, is there any insane conspiracy theory bandwagon you won't hop on?
What conspiracy?

Neither one of you have a valid explanation regarding the video.

The video is faked.  Biden is CGI.  Its really Trump, posing as Biden, and overlayed with CGI.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden
« on: June 14, 2024, 04:27:01 AM »
You really think an evil plot using masks is not gonna match skintones?  What, is the government a B movie now?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 14, 2024, 04:25:11 AM »
Huh...

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-criminal-cases-witnesses-financial-benefits#:~:text=Nine%20witnesses%20in%20the%20criminal,cash%20from%20Trump's%20media%20company.

Basically: Trump tried to buy positive witnesses who work for him or silence them from cooperating volunterily from law enforcement.

Credible?  Maybe.  Not sure.

Where does it say that they got those things after they were contacted by the court to be witnesses?

It doesn't say that. And obviously they would want to bring in high ranking witnesses closest to Trump at the top, so top people getting benefits in their job means nothing here.

This is like calling in the CEO of Microsoft to testify against the alleged crimes of Bill Gates and declaring that the witness was given wage increases and a promotion to CEO prior to being called as a witness, which is evidence of witness tampering. Nonsense.

Except some of them aren't top offficials.

One is an Aide who got a salary doubling.  Which doesn't happen normally.  When was the last time your boss gave you a pay raise that doubled your salary.

One got a 2 million severance (we don't know who) under the condition they can't cooperate with police voluntarily.


This is like calling the CEO of Microsoft to tewtify against the crimes of Bill Gates and finding out the CEO was given the job as soon as they were marked as a witness.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 13, 2024, 11:13:52 AM »
Huh...

https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-criminal-cases-witnesses-financial-benefits#:~:text=Nine%20witnesses%20in%20the%20criminal,cash%20from%20Trump's%20media%20company.

Basically: Trump tried to buy positive witnesses who work for him or silence them from cooperating volunterily from law enforcement.

Credible?  Maybe.  Not sure.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 11, 2024, 10:03:05 PM »
((Appologies for not answering sooner.  It fell off the radar))

So let me get this straight, the trade war, that lowered our trade with China and increased tariffs, you don't like it, it was bad, but also you wouldn't have a problem with it? It seems more and more that your position is "I don't like Trump, he's a big meanie :(" and not based on any policy reality.
It lowered it as an unintentional consequence then Trump tired to make it higher via the deal he finalized with China.  China did not follow through.  Not exactly the best of deals if you want to decrease China's business with the US.

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A dirty bomb is not "nuclear technology" and also it's a Hollywood meme.
Yes and no.  It IS a real thing.  Typically an explosive that blows up plutonium, which dispurses the radioactive material over a large area.  Refinement requires some nuclear technology (the refinement process) but not fission.

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I didn't say the Taliban is good. The Taliban is morally superior to the Afghani government that the US installed. The US really likes installing terrible governments, you pointed that out earlier with Iran.
I and many people (especially women) disagree with that assessment.  I'm not sure about the accusations of state sponsored rape but I do know that the Taliban happily forces marriage on women, which the Afghan Government installed by the US did not.  So I supose morally superior is a sentiment of opinion.

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Did we actually do more business with China?
Its in the agreement.  But China didn't bother upholding their end.  So if youwish to say that Trump intentionally made a deal knowing China wouldn't follow through then... sure?

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Let's see, does China and Russia ring any bells? You just admitted he reduced trade with China. Are you going to walk that back now? And Russia, Trump insisted that the EU stop relying on Russia for trade goods, and it worked to a slight extent. But let me guess, you think that's a bad thing now. We don't want to be too mean to Russia.
Intent and result are not always the same thing.  And unless you wish to claim Trump makes false intentions knowing the results will not be what is intended, I fail to see how Trump wanted less trade with China.

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Putin quite literally said he refused to invade Ukraine because Trump "didn't understand geopolitics". He waited until Biden entered office, as he knew Trump would "overreact" to the invasion. In much the same way you think Trump did something very bad when he had an Iranian general rightfully killed. Had Putin invaded Ukraine while Trump was president, Trump probably would have started ordering the deaths of Russian generals.
Yes, lets trust the word of a man who wants to ensure Trump stays in power and rules his own country with an iron fist. Surely he would NEVER lie... right?
And given Trump's comments, I don't think Putin had anything to actually worry about. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923

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“I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful,” Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.” “He used the word ‘independent’ and ‘we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that’s pretty savvy.”

Trump was then very clear on his position that the US shouldn't be giving Ukraine Money unless Europe gives more.  Which Europe may not have been able to do.
And honstly, not sure he would order the Deaths of Russian generals.  He very clearly wanted to withdrawl from conflicts so he probably wouldn't risk jumping into another one with Russia by killing Russian Generals directly.

Iran is differnece since they have no chance of hurting the US.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 11, 2024, 06:42:15 PM »
An outright case of reverse jury nullification if there ever was one:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/06/08/gop-demands-trump-mistrial-after-facebook-comment-from-jurors-cousin-sparks-conspiracy/

Is that really how it works? Some random guy on the Internet can hint that he knows the verdict ahead of time, and that's it, we need a mistrial now? Would this work for someone else? Hey guys, my brother is on Hunter Biden's jury, and he's already promised a conviction! MAGA forever!

The court can investigate and determine if any jury members are telling people that it's going to be a sham trial. If they are, then it is grounds for a mistrial.

Why?  The Jury had to be unanimous.  So one person would have been useless getting Trump guilty.  Need all 12.

And would defence allow all sham jurers?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 11, 2024, 03:57:32 PM »
Perhaps one would want to look at the instructions given to the jury, in light of the Facebook post, and reevaluate.
Yeah, and?  What about them feels wrong? 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 11, 2024, 04:55:55 AM »
An outright case of reverse jury nullification if there ever was one:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/06/08/gop-demands-trump-mistrial-after-facebook-comment-from-jurors-cousin-sparks-conspiracy/

Is that really how it works? Some random guy on the Internet can hint that he knows the verdict ahead of time, and that's it, we need a mistrial now? Would this work for someone else? Hey guys, my brother is on Hunter Biden's jury, and he's already promised a conviction! MAGA forever!

Well MY father's, brother's, nephew's, cousin's, former roommate said they're on the trial and he's gonna be innocent!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 10, 2024, 07:59:00 PM »
An outright case of reverse jury nullification if there ever was one:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2024/06/08/gop-demands-trump-mistrial-after-facebook-comment-from-jurors-cousin-sparks-conspiracy/

“professional s**tposter.”

Look, I know YOU get your facts from shit, but doesn't mean our legal system should.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 05, 2024, 09:44:56 PM »
Are you trying to tell me that the one thing causing Biden to get curbstomped in the polls is also the one thing you think he did well? Out of everything you could positively say about Biden "his economy hasn't done badly" might be just the most insane take I've ever read.

I don't live in the US so I've no real feel for how the economy is doing, but I've read some stuff which indicates the US economy is pretty strong right now. Although interestingly the perception is that it's doing poorly. There seems to be a gap between the perception and the reality
https://www.vox.com/politics/24094752/biden-trump-strong-economy-2024-inflation
I like to compare the perception I get from Americans with where I live and how that's going and my conclusion was that it was the same general feeling.  Prices go up, shrinkflation is prominent, wages... well, my wages go up but others don't.
So that, to me, tells me that whatever the issue is, it's not because of Biden.  I'm pretty sure it's the Russia/Ukraine war disrupting energy to Europe and Wheat from Ukraine.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 05, 2024, 07:35:18 PM »
Except a few bits like steel and aluminum, as well as washing machines.
China also kept their retalitory tarrifs and never purchased the extra $200 billion they promised to by 2021.  So the tarrifs are making things more expensive for Americans, China wasn't talk into removing theirs, and China didn't uphold their end of the deal.  Plus, farmers lost money during the two year war and some automakers moved production out of the US.  All in all, a loss for America.
https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/china-bought-none-extra-200-billion-us-exports-trumps-trade-deal

Are you telling me that you prefer to trade with a fascist nation?
I would not.  But Trump clearly did.

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That the US backed and put into power.  But more importantly, they have nuclear technology, and any new war in the middle east would cause oil prices to increase, which is the only reason we don't treat that area like Africa.

What does "nuclear technology" mean? Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons, and never will, if that's what you're implying. Further, the entire point of harassing Iran is to keep them too weak to go to war.

Don't need nuclear weapons like ICBMs, but a dirty bomb is effective in its own way.  And they know how to refine uranium.  I'm not sure they're too weak for war.  They just know they can't win against the US. 

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The Taliban taking back power was a good thing?

Unironically, yes. There's only so many stories of the Afghani government raping children that I'd like to hear before acknowledging that the Taliban wasn't so bad after all. The interim government collapsed overnight because no one in the country supported it, I can't imagine why! 
As opposed to the Taliban selling off girls for marriage THEN raping them legally. >_>
And the Taliban was ready, largely because Trump made a deal with them. 
And, of course, all the women who were no longer allowed to have a job or go to school.  Pretty sure they didn't support the taliban.  Not to mention the large amount of people who fled the country or tried to.  I'm sure they supported the government.  But keep looking at it with Trump tinted glasses.

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Farmers struggled BECAUSE of the Trade War. 
And the whole war was fought, partly,  to get China to buy more of our agricultural exports.  So Trump wanted to have more trade with China, not less.

Also, you do remember how Trump interacted with more mindless dictatorships than most presidents?  How he said nice things about President Xi, Putin, and Kim Jong Un?  Or did you forget that?

Ah yes, he said "nice things" about dictatorships, will consistently insisting that we should do less business with them. I can't believe he would do one thing and say another, I didn't think it was even possible to do that!

Trump loved Putin that Putin was terrified to invade Ukraine while Trump was still in office. Really makes you think.

So,if Trump wanted to do LESS buisness, why did he insist on doing more?
The Chinese Trade War ended with Trump DEMANDING and gettting (but they didn't follow through) China to have MORE business with America.
Saudi Arabia got weapons: https://www.forumarmstrade.org/resource-page---trump--saudi-arms-sales1.html
North Korea didn't get much except for some new sactions Trump put on Chineese shipping companies that go to NK being removed.  But we didn't do business with them anyway so can't do any less.
And nothing really changed under Trump with regards to Russia trade.  So... didn't do less there!

Can you name a dictator that Trump's actions and policy ended with the dictator doing LESS business with the US?


And that's cute how you think Putin was afraid of Trump.  Isn't the source for that particular rumor Trump himself?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 05, 2024, 06:33:02 PM »
He fought a pointless trade war with China and lost.

Huh? None of the "trade war" policies against China were changed by Biden. That's one of the things I think he's done right regarding the economy. How exactly did Trump "lose" the trade war?

Except a few bits like steel and aluminum, as well as washing machines.
China also kept their retalitory tarrifs and never purchased the extra $200 billion they promised to by 2021.  So the tarrifs are making things more expensive for Americans, China wasn't talk into removing theirs, and China didn't uphold their end of the deal.  Plus, farmers lost money during the two year war and some automakers moved production out of the US.  All in all, a loss for America.
https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/china-bought-none-extra-200-billion-us-exports-trumps-trade-deal

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He rebegotiated NAFTA just to change the name.
He met with Putin and threw his own intelligence agency under the bus because Putin said so.

...and other things that happened entirely in Dave's head!
You're right, he canceled NAFTA to change the name.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/02/trump-trade-canada-mexico-1006164

He could have just renegotiated it, but no.  And for so little.
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...others are simply relieved that it would keep much of the original agreement in place.

As for Putin....

There ya go.

Oh and he assassinated a very well liked Iranian General.  Good thing Iran chose not to retaliate. 
Oh no! The last thing I would like to do is hurt a backwards theocracy backing terrorists! :(
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That the US backed and put into power.  But more importantly, they have nuclear technology, and any new war in the middle east would cause oil prices to increase, which is the only reason we don't treat that area like Africa.

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He posted a secret military spy sattelite image that probably helped our enemies more than it helped his popularity.

Oh no, now they can roughly guess the resolution of a single satellite. The horror.
It is a big deal, yes.  Also helps narrow down which sattelite it is for tracking purposes.

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And, as many conservatives point out: Biden pulled us out of the Middle East and gave it back to the Taliban.  Planned by Trump, of course but... You know, details.

Yes, and that was a good thing.
The Taliban taking back power was a good thing?   

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And I'm not sure how you say he expanded the economy.  In what way?  The trade war and paying billions to farmers to offset their loss?

I'm sorry, would you prefer farmers collectively go bankrupt and most of the world starve to death? US farmers feed a lot more than the US, you know. Ironically, we were responsible for most of China's agricultural imports until we made it clear that we prefer to interact with mindless dictatorships a little less.
Farmers struggled BECAUSE of the Trade War. 
And the whole war was fought, partly,  to get China to buy more of our agricultural exports.  So Trump wanted to have more trade with China, not less.

Also, you do remember how Trump interacted with more mindless dictatorships than most presidents?  How he said nice things about President Xi, Putin, and Kim Jong Un?  Or did you forget that?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 05, 2024, 03:22:26 PM »
Do you like this list better? It puts Jackson as the worst

No it doesn't, lol.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/presidents-ranked-worst-best/4/

And still has Trump as 3rd worst.

Obviously this is subjective.
Equally obviously I'm mostly just trolling Tom.
But Trump isn't exactly going to go down in history as a great president, is he? He blundered and lied his way through his Presidency and then pouted and sulked when he lost the next election and refused to admit he lost. If anyone vaguely competent was running against him there's no way he'd be re-elected.

This list is almost exactly the same as US News...

Trump expanded the US economy, was the first to take war with China and Russia seriously, and, most importantly, was the first president in decades to finally pull out of the Middle East. Better yet, he started zero coups and wars in the Middle East. What, precisely, is so terrible about him? It feels like anyone who doesn't like Trump really just boils down to "I don't like the way he says things, he is a big meaniehead :("

He fought a pointless trade war with China and lost.
He rebegotiated NAFTA just to change the name.
He met with Putin and threw his own intelligence agency under the bus because Putin said so.

Oh and he assassinated a very well liked Iranian General.  Good thing Iran chose not to retaliate. 

He posted a secret military spy sattelite image that probably helped our enemies more than it helped his popularity.

And, as many conservatives point out: Biden pulled us out of the Middle East and gave it back to the Taliban.  Planned by Trump, of course but... You know, details.

And I'm not sure how you say he expanded the economy.  In what way?  The trade war and paying billions to farmers to offset their loss?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 04, 2024, 08:06:07 PM »
Paying off a whore is fine.  Its hiding it like a dumbass, thats the problem.

And to that I say: so?
Because he broke the law doing it.  Which was the dumbass part.  Like, he should have had more than enough money to just pay it off himself with his own personal funds.  But he didn't because then it would be public but totally legal.  Again, total dumbass move.  By contrast, Hillary Clinton did illegal things, used connections to get debate questions ahead of time, and maybe killed somone but was sly enough to either not get caught or be legal about it.  So why would I want someone like Trump to run America?  Someone who couldn't even get a porn star paid off without doing it illegally AND getting caught?  Hell, he couldn't even assassinate somoene discreetly. 

So yeah, if a president is gonna do something shady and illegal, I'd want to make sure they're smart enough to cover their tracks.  Because a smart president is better for America than one who fumbles around and yells about it when he fails.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 04, 2024, 05:35:35 PM »
Paying off a whore is fine.  Its hiding it like a dumbass, thats the problem.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: June 04, 2024, 05:10:54 PM »
Michael Cohen claims that he took out home equity credit on his home to pay Stormy Daniels.



What in the world?

It gives more credence to the allegations that it was really Michael Cohen who was having the affair with Stormy Daniels. A report came out with allegations that Stormy Daniel's former lawyer Michel Avenatti was claiming that she and Michael Cohen were having an affair and schemed to extort Trump.

https://joehoft.com/breaking-michael-cohen-reportedly-had-long-affair-with-stormy-daniels-and-together-they-schemed-against-president-trump/

"Today a report comes out that imprisoned attorney Michael Avenatti, who was as dishonest as Cohen, claimed that Cohen had an affair with Stormy Daniels and that he and Daniels made up the scheme to get money from citizen Trump."

Uhhh yeah.  This was explained in court.  You didn't watch the Legal Eagle video, did you?

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