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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Just a general question.

« on: April 14, 2016, 07:21:36 PM »

I can have conscious dreams. There is a technique called lucid dreaming and I did experiment with it for a while.
No, you cannot; not because you wouldn't want to, but because it is not possible yet for a human being to have a true conscious dream (do not confuse a conscious dream with a lucid dream).

A conscious dream = the power to create minerals, plants, animals, human beings, angels in A DREAM.


At the present time, however, the mind is not focused in a way that enables it to give a clear and true picture of what the spirit imagines. It is not one-pointed. It gives misty and clouded pictures. Hence the necessity of experiment to show the inadequacies of the first conception, and bring about new imaginings and ideas until the image produced by the spirit in mental substance has been reproduced in physical substance.

At the best, we are able to shape through the mind only such images as have to do with Form, and therefore is now in its form, or "mineral" stage, hence in our operations we are confined to forms, to minerals. We can imagine ways and means of working with the mineral forms of the three lower kingdoms, but can do little or nothing with the living bodies. We may indeed graft living branch to living tree, or living part of animal or man to other living part, but it is not life with which we are working; it is form only. We are making different conditions, but the life which already inhabited the form continues to do so still. To create life is beyond man's power until his mind has become alive.

The mind will be vivified to some extent and man can then imagine forms which will live and grow, like plants.

When his mind has acquired "Feeling," he can create living, growing, and feeling things.

When he reaches perfection, he will be able to "imagine" into existence creatures that will live, grown, feel, and think.

This is one of the most irrelevant tangents I have seen on this thread, and, in fact, this site. This jas absolutely nothing to do with any FE/RE belief system and only solidifies that you are arguing your beliefs based on a religious view point: an effective Appeal to Religion, thus making your point here moot in a psuedoscientific debate topic.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Just a general question.

« on: April 14, 2016, 04:14:21 PM »

Gauss' law of gravitation is a "law" based on the hypothesis that mass is proportional to gravitation; it is not.

We have at our disposal plenty of experiments which do prove that not only mass is not proportional to gravitation, but also that terrestrial gravity is a force of pressure.

Would you please enlighten me to these supposed experiments?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Salt flats

« on: April 13, 2016, 09:51:42 PM »

Yeah, you are right. Bad math.

Okay, so let us change the design of the experiment.

Picture this.

A triangle with three sides on the Salt Flat. From the starting point of stake one, travel a straight line 3 Km, using a laser as a guide. Drive a stake on arrival. Next, calculate a right angle and, using a laser as a straight line guide, travel another 3 Km. Then repeat the last step. What shape do I set up or draw out on the Salt Flat?

Well, non-euclidian geometry states that on the surface of a sphere, one can make a triangle with angles that do not add up to 180 degrees, so, if you were to spread three poles out over an extremely long distance, take their coordinates, and calculate the angles with some basic trig. If they were to come out to 180: flat earth, >180: spherical earth. <180: uh oh, concave earth. That would be a viable experiment.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Just a general question.

« on: April 13, 2016, 08:43:23 PM »

Absolutely no one ever said that you would be able to see forever on a flat earth. The shape of the Earth doesn't somehow endow you with superhuman vision, or the ability to exclude yourself from the effect perspective has on what you can perceive.

Also, some people think a flat earth means one big giant plane, devoid of mountains and hills. That's not the case. Aside from being in the open sea, most places have great variances in altitude. There are also objects obstructing your view, whether it's trees, buildings etc.

So even on a flat world you wouldn't be able to "see forever."

That's what the term "theoretically" means, much like what the FET is. I understand that atmospheric imperfections such as haze will impede one's vision, but only over obscenely long distance. However, there are certain technologies that allow for longer distance surveillance. So, on a flat earth, one should theoretically, on the clearest of days and with the strongest of magnifiers, be able to see Bimini from the top of the tallest building on Miami Beach, right? Trigonometry allows for no buildings, waves, or other opaque items to impede in the LOS. Do you believe that to be true, and not have the 385 feet of curvature that I've calculated?

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Just a general question.

« on: April 13, 2016, 05:43:08 PM »

We can only postulate, based on the assumption of the Earth being a sphere, that it must be approximately 4000 miles to the center. There isn't really any established method to prove that however, so it remains hypothetical.

But, given the scientific method, how can you postulate a hypothetical based on a theory you are trying to disprove WITH the hypothetical? That would be admission (albeit small) to some correctness in the Round Earth theory, demonstrating petitio principii.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Just a general question.

« on: April 13, 2016, 05:28:19 PM »

Yes, of course I have seen  a triangle ! But let me explain. I'm the one asking the question.LOL
Let me make it simple. Let's say I am about 6 feet or 2 meters tall. I am standing  on the  beach looking out to sea. How many miles, or kilometers can I see to the horizon on this flat earth ?
Or, let's say  I am the lookout in the crow's nest on a ship at sea. The crow's nest is about 100 feet or 30 meters above sea level. How many miles, or kilometers, can I see to the horizon on this flat earth ?
Just a general, simple question. How many miles or kilometers for the answer, please.

Hey man, I think I get what you're saying. On this hypothetical FE, you would theoretically be able to see forever, considering it's flat. If I'm not mistaken, that's what you were trying to get at. However, that's simply not the case, in actuality, you cannot see for extremely prolonged distances due to the curvature of the earth. (which, mind all of the FE'ers on this site, is not modeled by the equation "8 inches * miles²") So I get you, bud.

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Flat Earth Theory / Just a general question.

« on: April 12, 2016, 09:55:16 PM »

This may seem to be a fairly simple question, and I'm just wondering because I haven't seen anything about it yet: What is the hypothetical depth of this Flat Earth?