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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: May 03, 2017, 04:17:47 AM »
Maybe this will help
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Half-sunken ships Restored by simply looking at them through a Telescope
« on: May 03, 2017, 03:25:29 AM »Tom, please show me some objects that appear to be over horizon and are brought back over the horizon with greater magnification. In the video that I just posted the ship didn't rise up over the horizon when the magnification was increased. It just got bigger.I would like to see some cities that are over the horizon get restored through magnification.
Apparently you have not read Earth Not a Globe: http://sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za33.htm
Better yet, I'd like a video of you wearing a frock. Id like to see your feet disappear via the law of perspective.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: May 03, 2017, 03:17:58 AM »
I think you should play with a globe.
Round 2😁
Round 2😁
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Half-sunken ships Restored by simply looking at them through a Telescope
« on: May 03, 2017, 02:48:29 AM »
I would like to see some cities that are over the horizon get restored through magnification.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: May 03, 2017, 02:31:02 AM »
Silent, I understand the math but fail to understand how it applies.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: May 01, 2017, 05:14:19 AM »
I made a little video to clarify my point.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: May 01, 2017, 04:11:19 AM »
And what is the present tilt angle of the "dish"?
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: May 01, 2017, 03:24:01 AM »What is its distance right now?What is the distance of the sun from the center?Tom, is the sun at the center of dish/plane?
No.
It depends on the time of the year.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: May 01, 2017, 03:23:11 AM »
So, Silent, are you saying that going due east on the 45 degree latitude on a spherical earth would require no left or right deviation from the original vector? Put another way, you are implying that the pilot would NOT have to make small corrections to the left from the original vector to hold the 90 degree heading?
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: May 01, 2017, 03:08:02 AM »What is the distance of the sun from the center?Tom, is the sun at the center of dish/plane?
No.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: April 30, 2017, 09:41:19 PM »The only "hand off" perfectly straight courses are those that bisect the center of the earth. The only straight course with constant headings would be east/west at the equator or true north/south courses. Latitude constant courses other than the equator do not bisect the center of the earth. They cannot be followed "hand off". They require constant "hands on" to follow a heading because they are not straight paths. If latitude lines where straight "hand off" courses then aircraft would use them to fly from LA to Tokyo. They don't use that course because it's not a great circle route. The shortest straight line path goes up near Alaska. The latitude line isn't shorter because it's not "hands off" straight. It's actually curved. The challenge to "hands off" straight great circle routes is that they have constantly changing headings.You are wrong on this one. I believe the earth is round. I also know that the only place on a globe where you can travel a heading of true east or west and have it be a straight line is at the equator. Every other path with an east or west heading will result in a curved line.If it makes it easier, try imagining following a compass due east when you are just twenty feet from the north pole.
Did you travel in a straight line or in a circle?It's hardly a moot point from your position because the straight lines paths due east in the southern hemisphere in reality trend northward rather than southward.
That is an entirely different point from the one he was trying to make.
That's exactly my point. When you are 20 feet from the north pole the distance between you and the north pole is effectively flat and you see what would happen to your compass if the world was flat rather than round. Its only with curvature that compasses can actually perform like they do in real life. Its only with curvature that a compass will continue to point east if you travel in a straight line.
Yes, the line will be curved because the surface of the earth is curved but you won't have to constantly change course. You can effectively take your hands off the wheel and you will maintain a due east/west course. This kind of behavior is impossible on a flat earth. Sorry for the confusion, I was trying to simplify things for people who aren't familiar with navigation but I think I confused you in the process because you actually understand how travel over the earth actually occurs.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: April 30, 2017, 09:12:29 PM »You are wrong on this one. I believe the earth is round. I also know that the only place on a globe where you can travel a heading of true east or west and have it be a straight line is at the equator. Every other path with an east or west heading will result in a curved line.If it makes it easier, try imagining following a compass due east when you are just twenty feet from the north pole.
Did you travel in a straight line or in a circle?It's hardly a moot point from your position because the straight lines paths due east in the southern hemisphere in reality trend northward rather than southward.
That is an entirely different point from the one he was trying to make.
That's exactly my point. When you are 20 feet from the north pole the distance between you and the north pole is effectively flat and you see what would happen to your compass if the world was flat rather than round. Its only with curvature that compasses can actually perform like they do in real life. Its only with curvature that a compass will continue to point east if you travel in a straight line.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Solar Eclipse of 8/21 August
« on: April 30, 2017, 07:58:53 PM »
My whole family is traveling about 5 hours to Wyoming, USA to set up in the direct path. We will be bringing telescopes and appropriate filters for the event.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: April 30, 2017, 04:15:53 PM »Well, even on a round Earth, you're not really tracing a straight line when you go east, you're traveling in a circle. So it all seems like kind of a moot point.It's hardly a moot point from your position because the straight lines paths due east in the southern hemisphere in reality trend northward rather than southward.
See, east and west trace circles around the north pole while north and south trace circles that go through the north pole. So the cardinal directions are as follows: North is Hubwards, South is Rimwards, East is Turnwise, and West is Widdershins.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Feeling the rotation of the moon?
« on: April 30, 2017, 03:24:14 PM »
BTW, the centripetal acceleration cause by the rotation of the earth at the equator is only 0.0339 meter/second2. It would be less at greater latitudes.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: April 30, 2017, 03:10:26 PM »You won't go in a straight line though. You will follow a curved path called a rhumb line. A great circle route is a straight path but the heading will constantly change. It is quite possible to get from one location to another following a constant heading. It is not the shortest route though because it will following a curved path. The only place where a straight east or west path can be taken is at the equator. Take a look at Google Earth for experimentation. If you draw a straight path with a heading of 90° at 45 north latitude the line will trend south. Google Earth uses great circle routes to draw the straight lines.The same thing happens on a spherical earth except at the equator.
Sorry but you fail basic geometry there. If you are on a sphere and you circumscribe the sphere (which means traveling west-east or east-west on our planet) the top and bottom of the sphere (the poles) will always be perpendicular to the circumscribed route. If you don't believe me grab a ball or a balloon, draw a circle around that object, and then draw lines to the pole of the object.
I have never heard how the flat earth explains being able to follow a straight great circle route heading east at the equator though.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Feeling the rotation of the moon?
« on: April 30, 2017, 02:58:50 PM »
It has nothing to do with gravity and the atmosphere. Take a look at the thresholds found in this study and compare the acceleration of a rotating earth or moon.
https://bmcearnosethroatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1472-6815-5-5
https://bmcearnosethroatdisord.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1472-6815-5-5
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Feeling the rotation of the moon?
« on: April 30, 2017, 02:53:31 PM »
The ability to feel rotation has to do with inner ears threshold to perceive acceleration. If the acceleration is below the ears threshold then no motion is detected. The acceleration caused by the rotation of the earth is half of what studies have found the inner ear is able to detect.
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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How do flat earthers explain travel with cardinal directions?
« on: April 30, 2017, 12:19:03 PM »
The same thing happens on a spherical earth except at the equator.
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Flat Earth Community / Re: Planetary Ecliptic
« on: April 29, 2017, 04:47:01 PM »
Tom, is the sun at the center of dish/plane?