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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is the source of the sun's energy?

« on: January 16, 2018, 07:26:15 PM »

If you had chemotherapy recently, your hair would have fallen out, which is not what your profile picture (presumably your face) shows.

I doubt she'd update it to show that, I know I wouldn't. I'd stop trying to poke holes in her personal life stories and just discard them as unrelated - that's an area where she has an objective advantage, because she could make up anything and you couldn't prove her wrong.

You should stick to the flat earth discussions, where she can still make stuff up but you can prove her wrong.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Was the sandy hook shooting a hoax

« on: January 15, 2018, 04:56:36 PM »

Putting that 1595 SAT score to work by denying more tragedies, I see.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What does our Domed Earth System REALLY look like?

« on: January 15, 2018, 04:45:48 PM »

The side of us or as some have pointed out, below us. Perhaps both? It's very interesting. I don't know if I can support the idea that we're the center of it all. That would be a huge coincidence. But Domed systems within an Ice plane and we just happen to be one of them... sounds kind of plausible. But it doesn't answer why we're here or who/what put us here.

Celestial experiment perhaps? Maybe the other domes are filled with people with slight variations.

Or perhaps the entire system is simply a flower garden for a much higher entity.

Unfortunately, all we can do is speculate.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: different planets

« on: January 15, 2018, 04:37:10 PM »

If the other planets aren't flat why would the Earth be flat?

From the wiki:
Q. If the planets are round, why isn't the earth?
A. The earth is not a planet.

Unfortunately this only shifts the question to "what differentiates the Earth from planets", to which I suspect the answer is "the Earth is flat". I would greatly appreciate someone with more knowledge pitching in otherwise!

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Help this student understand the society!

« on: January 14, 2018, 03:20:55 PM »

That's exactly what I did. I didn't fill in the survey. Neither did many other flat earthers. And the student asks "Why is no one filling in my survey?". And the answer is that it was clumsy at best, insulting at worst.

The answer to education from surveys we have done in the past is that the overwhelming majority of flat earthers here are degree educated, myself included. And most of those have degrees in STEM subjects, not arts.

But you don't go to a society that is ridiculed for being backwards and open with "Do any of you have an education?".

You've misunderstood what "take a step back" means. It implies "...and reevaluate".

As I said in my post, these questions are commonplace. What if everyone answered the question with higher degrees? Then it would serve to dispel the idea that flat earthers are uneducated. Either way, it helps provide what I consider relevant context to the matter at hand.

I honestly don't think I've ever seen anyone get offended by a demographical question on a survey before, or to act like its purpose was to ridicule. Do you do this on every survey you take? Or just the ones where the demographic questions come first?

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: why would the government want to hide it if the earth was flat?

« on: January 14, 2018, 03:14:12 PM »

Flat Earthers have yet to show how hiding the shape of Earth provides the government/NASA/Illuminati with any money and/or power.

I believe the idea is that by only pretending to go to space, large amounts of money can be funneled into space pursuits, and then a fraction can be used to fake it and the rest goes into the pockets of the people on top.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: different planets

« on: January 14, 2018, 03:10:34 PM »

In order:
The other planets are real.
Stars are, I believe, near the edges of the dome.
Dunno about shooting stars.
The center is typically placed at the North Pole.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Help this student understand the society!

« on: January 12, 2018, 03:16:40 PM »

Education was the very first thing you asked. Not age, not sex, not religion ... you went straight to education. As if your inner monologue thought "Right, flat earth society. They're are idiots so I'll ask them about their education, and form my conclusions around that. Should be an easy A grade here. Oh, and to make it look like a survey, I better ask some other questions too. What to ask? Erm, age, sex ... yeah, starting to look like a survey now. Juicy worm stuck on the hook. Now to cast it out and catch some halfwits".

You led out with the wrong question. Your intentions to humiliate, not understand were clear. Still, I guess you learned something after all.

Demographic data is usually near the top/front of questionnaires, but that doesn't make them the most important questions. If a survey asked if you identified as a man or a woman before diving into the meat of things, would it be sexist? If it asked your ethnicity, would it be racist? If it asked if you were religious, would it be antireligious?

It was a simple question, and one that I'd also be interested in the answer to if I were running the survey. If you feel like you're being talked down to, insulted, or attacked when an anonymous voluntary survey asks what your highest level of education is, you should probably take a step back.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is the source of the sun's energy?

« on: January 11, 2018, 07:16:04 PM »

Probably got some antisemitism going on there, too. The whole denying the holocaust thing.

So, denying something that has zero evidence for it makes me anti-Semitic?

This isn't the time nor the place but someday I would be very interested in hearing the reasoning behind your Holocaust denial. Not debating it, just hearing it.

A ton of science that corroborates round Earth is done by people not associated with any gov't org. Free you mind from the shackles of conspiracy!

May you cite a few? Not that it makes a difference. Everything regarding the earth's shape is done with the presupposition that the earth is round. So of course things that confirm a spherical earth will be used.

I've noticed that the assumption about the scientific method here seems to be that a hypothesis being wrong means the experiment results get thrown out. This is not the case - instead, follow-up experiments are done to determine why the results were different than expected. Typically the hypothesis is there to provide a clear way to look at the results. Additionally, you can't prove something wrong by failing to prove it right - that goes against both the scientific and zetetic methods.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: How would mountains work?

« on: January 11, 2018, 06:18:53 PM »

I don't see what this has to do with mountain formation.

I agree it is unrelated, but it is worth acknowledging that it's unfair of you to respond to it a couple of times and then complain that you're still being talked to about it.

You should shut down off-topic comments instead of responding to them, not respond a few times and then shut them down. That just comes off as trying to dodge tough questions!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: The Apollo landing conspiracy

« on: January 10, 2018, 07:37:20 PM »

Tom- your argument is that retroreflectors have been witnessed on Earth without human intervention, so therefore it may be possible that under different circumstances (i.e. those on the moon), natural retroreflectors from inanimate material could be formed as well, right? I just want to make sure I understood it properly - you spread it out over several posts and I'm not used to that...

Let me get this straight: people are derided for seeing pyramids and architecture on mars and using that as evidence for intelligence on mars. But people who detect retroreflectors on the moon and use that as evidence for intelligence on the moon are applauded and praised. Am I missing something here?

To be fair, they are using it to suggest that intelligent life (humans) visited the moon, not that it exists/lives there (natively or otherwise).

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is the source of the sun's energy?

« on: January 10, 2018, 07:22:38 PM »

98% of the Sun is made up of either hydrogen or helium. Why are we even talking about OH combustion?

Just because oxygen isn't detectable in large quantity within the sun doesn't mean it isn't used by the sun. Oxygen may be obtained and quickly utilized and combined with h2o to be released before detection. Even JohnAdams1145 admits from the spectral analysis that he holds so near to his heart that trace amounts of oxygen exist in the Sun.

In order to form H2O, there must be one oxygen atom for every two hydrogen atoms, so wouldn't that mean that there would have to be more than trace amounts if it were to be used?

That is, the amount of hydrogen that can be used to make H2O is limited to twice the amount of oxygen. So trace amounts of oxygen means trace amounts of H2O at best. Meanwhile the rest of that hydrogen is not taking part in that process and instead would just be consumed - fire isn't very patient.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Question regarding the spotlight sun theory

« on: January 10, 2018, 07:00:46 PM »

Ok then, let me ask another question, if I went to an area of earth where the Moon was "Setting" and simultaneously had a friend in an area where the Moon was "Rising", how come we both see the same side of the Moon when according to the FE model the Moon is only a few miles up and very small.

The moon is actually fairly uniform in appearance, so you are probably just mistakenly thinking you are viewing the same spot.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What does our Domed Earth System REALLY look like?

« on: January 10, 2018, 06:31:46 PM »

The idea of methods of passage between this dome and others along an ice plane interests me greatly. By going further along in that vein, it becomes obvious that aliens, if they exist, would not come from above, but from the side (or the south pole, if you still believe in a round earth).

This opens a good number of questions. If aliens could enter from the side, then a very good way to disguise that fact would be to hide the existence of that side entirely. Conspiracy nuts the world over are looking for how NASA is covering up having made extraterrestrial contact and are pointing their telescopes upwards - that would make it a lot easier to hide something along the ice wall!!

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Gravity According to FET

« on: January 09, 2018, 07:39:50 PM »

Is there a reason for that?