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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 16, 2017, 06:19:33 PM »

Comey is fucking neutral? Where did you ever get that impression?

I swear you really do think if you just say something it makes it true.

Comey said HIMSELF, under oath, that Trump's comments about Flynn DID NOT QUALIFY Obstruction of Justice.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 16, 2017, 05:48:14 PM »

aaaannnd...

He's not officially under investigation.

Congrats Trump, all you had to do was keep your mouth shut but nope.  You just had to tweet.  Now you're fucked.

Obstruction of justice for obstructing an investigation that doesn't even exist. You can't make this shit up.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Back

« on: June 16, 2017, 05:47:07 PM »

Talking of Nazi memorabilia, there is a signed Mien Kampf up for auction in Lancashire if you want one Rushy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-40276600

I would no more want a signed Mein Kampf than a signed Quran.

Hitler was a sadistic maniac who blamed Jews for all the problems in the World. So I see the similarities between him and Muhammad to be honest.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: Density and the replacement of gravity.

« on: June 15, 2017, 06:44:20 PM »

There is absolutely no reason what so ever to explain why mass should be inherently attracted to all other mass in the universe.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?

« on: June 15, 2017, 06:41:24 PM »

I told you exactly what that projection is.

There is no accurate flat earth map, mostly because the entire concept and debate is something that has pretty recently been reinvigorated. There needs to be a team of people with expertise in cartography AND a willingness to rethink the world map from the ground up.

People navigated for thousands of years without the assumption of the Earth being round. Even the projection you see in your smart phone GPS is essentially a "flat" map.

I did not ask for an official map but what YOU think it looks like.

I don't think anything about the AEP "map." I know that the distances are accurate for latitude only. As is thoroughly explained if you do even a small amount of research into how the projection was made.

Again I asked nothing about any projection map.  I know how projection maps are made.  I asked what do you think a flat earth map looks like?  Not a trick question, I really want to know.

I misspoke earlier and said latitude when I meant longitude (since edited).  Do you think that longitude lines maintain the same angle as they go south from the north pole? If so the distance between points at any latitude would be simple to calculate.

Longitude and Latitude would have nothing at all to do with a flat earth map.

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Flat Earth Theory / Re: What is behind Antarctica?

« on: June 14, 2017, 08:39:49 PM »

Unknown

Hard to imagine that in the age of long-range jets that no one has found out.

How many jets have flown blindly into the Southern icy tundras?

...and how many have safely landed at the south pole when delivering supplies to the many hundreds of people who live there all year round.  You can "Skype" chat with some of them.

Navigating to a certain coordinate definitely does not sound like flying blindly into the Southern Tundras to me.

So you are saying that it's possible to go there?

Wouldn't a trip from South America to Australia be much easier if they just flew over top of Antartica and came out on the other side?

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?

« on: June 14, 2017, 08:38:44 PM »

I told you exactly what that projection is.

There is no accurate flat earth map, mostly because the entire concept and debate is something that has pretty recently been reinvigorated. There needs to be a team of people with expertise in cartography AND a willingness to rethink the world map from the ground up.

People navigated for thousands of years without the assumption of the Earth being round. Even the projection you see in your smart phone GPS is essentially a "flat" map.

I did not ask for an official map but what YOU think it looks like.

I don't think anything about the AEP "map." I know that the distances are accurate for latitude only. As is thoroughly explained if you do even a small amount of research into how the projection was made.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Religion of Peace Strikes Back

« on: June 14, 2017, 08:35:09 PM »

Up to a point you are right, but what I am trying to point out is that the message that is peddled in a large part of the American media that Europe is awash with Muslims that are poised to rise up and impose Sharia on the gullible white folk is as wrong as your other assertions.

Absolutely not. The media constantly paints them as purveyors of peace, tolerance, and women's rights... when the reality is that is absolutely not true in any Muslim Majority nation.

The rejection of Islamic Terror and Sharia is rooted in actual data and analysis. A phobia is an irrational fear. For the general public in your own country, I am willing to bet that this fear is very real and very reasonable fear to have.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 14, 2017, 08:30:28 PM »

They are posturing up for a major witch hunt that they only hope drags out until the midterms. Finding anything is secondary to just muddying the waters and trying to build a Trump obstruction of justice case.

A congressional investigation designed to stretch on as long as possible and push a narrative of perpetual scandal rather than genuinely investigate any real issues?

You don't say.

Except that investigation actually found multiple felonies being committed, as well as obstruction of justice. It was Hillary's "intent" that your on again/off again hero/enemy James Comey arbitrarily decided wasn't malicious.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Shots Fired at republicans!

« on: June 14, 2017, 08:27:43 PM »

Both sides of the political aisle are guilty of using hyperbole to denigrate their opponents or exaggerate the consequences of their policies, and have been for many years. To try and pin it all on one side is insane.

Sanders to faithful: Take down Trump, take over Democratic Party

I'm not pinning it on one side. I'm just stating the obvious that the mainstream media has had a role in inciting this violence more today than in any time in the past. You have the media and the losers from the democrat party openly, literally, calling for Resistance. The traditional connotation for Resistance doesn't exclude violence and terrorism as an acceptable method.

When you convince people of lies like repealing Obamacare will cause millions of deaths (it fucking wont) than are you really surprised when someone impressionable acts upon those irrational fears.

This is almost identical to how ISIS, and other major Islamic terror groups work now. It's not about direct plot or a connection, its about providing a narrative, and a playbook. With the internet and 24/7 media, anyone can be radicalized, anywhere.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?

« on: June 14, 2017, 07:26:31 PM »

I told you exactly what that projection is.

There is no accurate flat earth map, mostly because the entire concept and debate is something that has pretty recently been reinvigorated. There needs to be a team of people with expertise in cartography AND a willingness to rethink the world map from the ground up.

People navigated for thousands of years without the assumption of the Earth being round. Even the projection you see in your smart phone GPS is essentially a "flat" map.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Shots Fired at republicans!

« on: June 14, 2017, 07:23:44 PM »

i believe gun control is good.  i believe murdering republicans is bad.  those two things aren't in conflict.  they're actually mutually supporting.  reasonable people can disagree about what forms of self defense should be legal, and agree that murdering republicans is always morally evil.

No one is debating whether or not those two things are mutually exclusive, but you.

The questions is: Is it morally right to, through the media, basically incite violence against opposing idealogies.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM »

By having Mueller staff his team with clearly partisan lawyers and known DNC supporters. They are posturing up for a major witch hunt that they only hope drags out until the midterms. Finding anything is secondary to just muddying the waters and trying to build a Trump obstruction of justice case.

yeah that also doesn't make any sense.  mueller was appointed by rod rosenstein, the deputy ag trump himself nominated.  trump literally declined rosenstein's resignation and nominated him for deputy ag in a gop-controlled senate that favored him 94-6.  trump obviously thought this was a person of good political character, or he wouldn't have nominated him.  what possible motive could rosenstein have to appoint a dnc operative?

you describe these people as "clearly partisan."  on what do you base that assessment?

The fact that one of the lawyers hired by Mueller, Jeannie Rhee, literally worked for the Clinton Foundation. Apparently there are FEC records that show that 4 of the other lawyers made donations to DNC and it's candidates over the past decade. Not to mention Mueller and Comey have a very long history of working together, one notable case was the botched Anthrax investigation that wrongfully pinned the mailings on an innocent man.

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Round vs. Flat

« on: June 14, 2017, 06:34:49 PM »

You would also think that if they are so secure in their beliefs they wouldn't spend nearly as much time trying to defend them. So either they are losers with literally nothing else to do or they aren't as confident as they purport themselves to be about their worldview and need almost constant validation and affirmation. 

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Flat Earth Community / Re: Why does my flat earth friend push so hard?

« on: June 14, 2017, 06:30:38 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, I have read the FAQ and it does not address the flight time problem in any way.  In fact, the FAQ does not contain the word "flight" if the search is working.

A fair point, I was being too harsh. Let's substitute "I didn't read the FAQ" with "I didn't do basic research" for the sake of accuracy. The sentiment stands.

This may not be the right place for the discussion on flight times but I have seen the question asked many times and never answered.  How do you explain it when flights between South Africa and Australia take the amount of time they would if plotted on a globe?  If plotted on any flat earth map in the Wiki / FAQ they would take much longer unless the aircraft could exceed it's posted speed and fly supersonic.

The map everyone wants to reference and or criticize doesn't accurately represent longitude. No one makes that claim. The projection is called Azimuthal Equidistant meaning that each line of longitude intersects the lines of latitude at equal distances. It is a projection made on the assumption of the Earth being a sphere, and should not be used beyond basic visualization of how our planet might appear with the North Pole as its center.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 14, 2017, 06:22:55 PM »

how could the democrats force trump to fire mueller.  that makes no sense.

By having Mueller staff his team with clearly partisan lawyers and known DNC supporters. They are posturing up for a major witch hunt that they only hope drags out until the midterms. Finding anything is secondary to just muddying the waters and trying to build a Trump obstruction of justice case.

But hey, you just follow the evidence with a #openmind

I'm sorry, did you say evidence? You must be aware of something I am not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Shots Fired at republicans!

« on: June 14, 2017, 06:22:26 PM »

yeah this is definitely the nyt's fault.

btw the belief that gun control is good because it would prevent gun violence is actually perfectly consistent with the belief that shooting people is bad.

The issue isn't about whether shooting people is bad, it's about whether law abiding citizens should have a right to defend themselves (they do).

If you don't see how, through decades of demonizing and dehumanizing conservatives, the liberal media could be possibly encouraging this kind of thing then I don't know what else good you think would come from trying to convince roughly 50% of this country that other 50% are racist nazis hell bent on world destruction.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 14, 2017, 04:05:52 PM »

how could the democrats force trump to fire mueller.  that makes no sense.

By having Mueller staff his team with clearly partisan lawyers and known DNC supporters. They are posturing up for a major witch hunt that they only hope drags out until the midterms. Finding anything is secondary to just muddying the waters and trying to build a Trump obstruction of justice case.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Shots Fired at republicans!

« on: June 14, 2017, 04:03:16 PM »

More violence from the right I see. 

But hey they were GOP so they deserved it. Their hate speech and refusal to outright ban AR-15's brought this upon themselves.

So ironic that the left, as the Champions for Women's rights, always finds a way to blame the victim.

who is blaming the gop for getting shot at?

All the people who invariably are going to call for stricter gun laws as a result of this.

The media has been insinuating that conservatism is racist, sexist, and a threat to society. They paint our President as Hitler and a Russian spy. They say that pulling out of the Paris agreement will make seas rise and pestilence spread. They are basically (not so) subtly inciting violence, that the right maniac will think is righteous and believe to be justified.

Yet again, it becomes increasingly clear that most of the violence, hatred, and intolerance is coming from the supposed peaceful tolerant left.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Shots Fired at republicans!

« on: June 14, 2017, 03:11:38 PM »

More violence from the right I see. 

But hey they were GOP so they deserved it. Their hate speech and refusal to outright ban AR-15's brought this upon themselves.

So ironic that the left, as the Champions for Women's rights, always finds a way to blame the victim.