Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2014, 02:08:44 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/16/elon-musk-reveals-details-of-the-new-tesla/?tid=hp_mm&hpid=z3

tl;dr sex jokes, Model III will retail for $35,000, 200 mile range, due in 2017

I'm gonna buy the shit out of that thing the second it comes out down here.

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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2014, 10:23:01 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/16/elon-musk-reveals-details-of-the-new-tesla/?tid=hp_mm&hpid=z3

tl;dr sex jokes, Model III will retail for $35,000, 200 mile range, due in 2017

I'm gonna buy the shit out of that thing the second it comes out down here.
2017?  That's plenty of time for them to fold, change the price, or be car blocked from the other auto dealers.
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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2014, 10:24:06 AM »
Oh the price will likely change and I doubt the distance will end up as 200 miles. But if it does..

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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2014, 10:25:40 AM »
Oh the price will likely change and I doubt the distance will end up as 200 miles. But if it does..
Hopefully they'll have more charging stations.  Like at gas stations.
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2014, 05:11:23 PM »
Oh the price will likely change and I doubt the distance will end up as 200 miles. But if it does..
Hopefully they'll have more charging stations.  Like at gas stations.
The good thing about a petrol station is that you can go in, fill up your car, buy some munchies and be on your way 5 mins later. I don't want to spend 9 hours at the electric charge station eating packaged sandwiches and doing scratch cards. Nor do I want to plan my entire life around the next charge of my car.

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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2014, 05:32:17 PM »
Oh the price will likely change and I doubt the distance will end up as 200 miles. But if it does..
Hopefully they'll have more charging stations.  Like at gas stations.
The good thing about a petrol station is that you can go in, fill up your car, buy some munchies and be on your way 5 mins later. I don't want to spend 9 hours at the electric charge station eating packaged sandwiches and doing scratch cards. Nor do I want to plan my entire life around the next charge of my car.

Then it's a good thing that you won't have to.
The Tesla Supercharger recharges Model S quickly. Super quickly. Superchargers are for refueling quickly on road trips. A Supercharger can replenish half the battery in as little as 20 minutes. All Model S vehicles with the 85 kWh battery can use Superchargers as can properly equipped 60 kWh battery vehicles. Superchargers will be positioned at convenient locations along major interstates throughout the country.
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2014, 05:35:36 PM »
I don't want to be at the charge station for 20 mins either. That's enough to make me late for work. Also fast charging is going to cap your battery life to around 5-7 years. I'm assuming you get a battery health check when you buy second hand electric cars, so yours will depreciate like a brick doing that. The batteries are upwards of $10,000 a time.

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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2014, 05:37:59 PM »
I don't want to be at the charge station for 20 mins either. That's enough to make me late for work.

Charge it at home before you leave  >o<

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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2014, 05:40:40 PM »
I don't want to be at the charge station for 20 mins either. That's enough to make me late for work.

Charge it at home before you leave  >o<
What if I forget? What if the charging thing burns my damned house down! Those batteries get hot on charging. What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?

I'd put petrol in my mobile phone if it meant I could just top it up and be good for the whole day. OMG. I have to go to the patent office. Brb.

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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2014, 05:52:30 PM »
I don't want to be at the charge station for 20 mins either. That's enough to make me late for work.

Charge it at home before you leave  >o<
What if I forget? What if the charging thing burns my damned house down! Those batteries get hot on charging. What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?

I'd put petrol in my mobile phone if it meant I could just top it up and be good for the whole day. OMG. I have to go to the patent office. Brb.

There are quite a few charging stations where I live and I have witnessed zero fires.  I have, however, within the past two months seen a fire at a petrol station. It ignited while I was inside the store and sounded like a gunshot, caused by someone filling up. The car was engulfed in flames, so I quickly left and missed the end result. There are constantly morons who smoke at the pump, don't discharge static, etc. That is a much worse risk than a charging station.

There may be reasons to not like electric cars, but to me, charging isn't one of them.


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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2014, 05:57:37 PM »
I don't want to be at the charge station for 20 mins either. That's enough to make me late for work.

Charge it at home before you leave  >o<
What if I forget?
Like if you forget to fill up with gas and run out on the highway?

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What if the charging thing burns my damned house down!

Then your electrician should be sued.

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Those batteries get hot on charging.
And?

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What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.

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I'd put petrol in my mobile phone if it meant I could just top it up and be good for the whole day. OMG. I have to go to the patent office. Brb.
Pull cord for your phone?
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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2014, 06:15:44 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820


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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2014, 07:09:17 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820

That article quotes the price of an i-miev at £28,990 when the actual price is £9053.41... cheaper than the fiat. Looks like your media overlords hoodwinked you again, Thork. Also you're an idiot for having an article about electric vehicles from 2010. Technology moves fast.
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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2014, 07:25:36 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820

That article quotes the price of an i-miev at £28,990 when the actual price is £9053.41... cheaper than the fiat. Looks like your media overlords hoodwinked you again, Thork. Also you're an idiot for having an article about electric vehicles from 2010. Technology moves fast.
Where did you see £9,000? Their website still says £28,499.
http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/imiev/specifications.aspx
Electric cars are so expensive for what they are.


£28k for that piece of rubbish. You'd have to be insane. That's $48,000. Think of the kind of car you can get for that. Why would anyone buy electric?

0-60mph - 13 seconds. Yawn
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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2014, 07:32:18 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820
Does electricity cost more in the UK than petrol?
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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2014, 07:33:58 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years? 
What's so civilized about polluting the atmoplane with burning fossil fuels.  ???
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2014, 07:47:43 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820
Does electricity cost more in the UK than petrol?
Read the link and you will see why. ::)

What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years? 
What's so civilized about polluting the atmoplane with burning fossil fuels.  ???
as opposed to running around naked sniffing each others behinds?

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« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2014, 08:08:56 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820

That article quotes the price of an i-miev at £28,990 when the actual price is £9053.41... cheaper than the fiat. Looks like your media overlords hoodwinked you again, Thork. Also you're an idiot for having an article about electric vehicles from 2010. Technology moves fast.
Where did you see £9,000? Their website still says £28,499.
http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/imiev/specifications.aspx
Electric cars are so expensive for what they are.


£28k for that piece of rubbish. You'd have to be insane. That's $48,000. Think of the kind of car you can get for that. Why would anyone buy electric?

0-60mph - 13 seconds. Yawn

Apparently car companies royally screw britons, because an i-miev in the US is $16,000.  No wonder we all drive bigger cars.

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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2014, 08:29:10 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years? 
What's so civilized about polluting the atmoplane with burning fossil fuels.  ???
as opposed to running around naked sniffing each others behinds?
??? What's wrong with running around naked?  Are civilized people born wearing clothes?
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Re: Tesla Motors opens their patents to the world. Fuck yeah.
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2014, 08:33:14 PM »
What if I just go to the petrol station and buy some petrol like civilised folk have done for over 100 years?
Its more expensive.
No, electric cars are way more expensive to buy and a little more to run.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11112820
Does electricity cost more in the UK than petrol?
Read the link and you will see why. ::)
I did.  Its more expensive to buy but the cost to own is much cheaper.  The source of your "more expensive to run" is the depreciation value.  Which has no berring on the cost of owning the car.
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