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Re: Trump
« Reply #4460 on: September 28, 2019, 05:05:21 PM »
Evidence of Biden corruption:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

So your evidence is a translated oral testemony from the person who was fired (resigned) dated september of this year in neither of the languages it says its in?

Oh and its a confidential document that you have?  Well....this is interesting.
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« Reply #4461 on: September 28, 2019, 05:30:51 PM »
Evidence of Biden corruption:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

So your evidence is a translated oral testemony from the person who was fired (resigned) dated september of this year in neither of the languages it says its in?

Oh and its a confidential document that you have?  Well....this is interesting.
Yes it is interesting.

And generally, English being the language of business, it would not surprise me if this was rendered in English when uttered.

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Re: Trump
« Reply #4462 on: September 28, 2019, 05:35:31 PM »
Evidence of Biden corruption:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

So your evidence is a translated oral testemony from the person who was fired (resigned) dated september of this year in neither of the languages it says its in?

Oh and its a confidential document that you have?  Well....this is interesting.
Yes it is interesting.

And generally, English being the language of business, it would not surprise me if this was rendered in English when uttered.

You uhhh.. you didn't read it, did you?
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« Reply #4463 on: September 28, 2019, 07:38:14 PM »
Evidence of Biden corruption:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

So your evidence is a translated oral testemony from the person who was fired (resigned) dated september of this year in neither of the languages it says its in?

Oh and its a confidential document that you have?  Well....this is interesting.
Yes it is interesting.

And generally, English being the language of business, it would not surprise me if this was rendered in English when uttered.

You uhhh.. you didn't read it, did you?
Yes I did.

After reading it again, I see now it was uttered by Shokin in Russian. I apologize for my initial oversight of this fact.

What is specifically wrong about the translation and rendering in English?

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« Reply #4464 on: September 28, 2019, 09:17:54 PM »
Evidence of Biden corruption:
https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

So your evidence is a translated oral testemony from the person who was fired (resigned) dated september of this year in neither of the languages it says its in?

Oh and its a confidential document that you have?  Well....this is interesting.
Yes it is interesting.

And generally, English being the language of business, it would not surprise me if this was rendered in English when uttered.

You uhhh.. you didn't read it, did you?
Yes I did.

After reading it again, I see now it was uttered by Shokin in Russian. I apologize for my initial oversight of this fact.

What is specifically wrong about the translation and rendering in English?

Without having the original russian, I couldn't tell you.
However, my point was mainly: why is it in English?  Who translated it and when?  This is for an Austrian court case and thus, English shouldn't be a factor.

Basically:
A Russian speaking man gave a testimony in Russian, which was translated to Ukrainian and used in a court where the official language is German and somehow its in English.  See where I'm a bit confused?

Oh and its confidential so, ya know, probably illegal to have it.
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« Reply #4465 on: September 29, 2019, 01:41:52 PM »
I don't really care about the translation issues so much as the fact that this is the guy who's already been disgraced and widely condemned for his corruption. Of course he's going to insist that he did nothing wrong. There's no reason to believe he's telling the truth.
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« Reply #4466 on: September 29, 2019, 02:34:57 PM »
I don't really care about the translation issues so much as the fact that this is the guy who's already been disgraced and widely condemned for his corruption. Of course he's going to insist that he did nothing wrong. There's no reason to believe he's telling the truth.

Some of his claims should be a matter of public record but I would want to see that rather than engage in a he said she said.

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« Reply #4467 on: September 29, 2019, 02:54:33 PM »
Also, kinda interesting this is getting attention now and not say.... In 2012 when it happened.  Almost as though Republicans used to be ok with it...
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« Reply #4468 on: October 01, 2019, 11:57:08 AM »
Also, kinda interesting this is getting attention now and not say.... In 2012 when it happened.  Almost as though Republicans used to be ok with it...


It's just like Hillary's uranium or Obama's birth certificate. He picks up some long debunked conspiracy that the Republicans already investigated years ago and thinks he found something new. He thinks he's so much smarter than everybody else with his big amazing brain and we are all idiots that can be fooled with a Sharpie marker.

As if Illinois Republicans were so stupid they allowed Obama to rise to the level of Senator without a birth certificate.

This is what he's focused on instead of creating healthcare reform or a cohesive foreign policy. Even when he had a majority in the House and the Senate the only legislation he managed to pass was a tax break for billionaires which is now creating the largest budget deficit in our history.
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« Reply #4469 on: October 01, 2019, 12:22:09 PM »
So... No one is gonna comment on Trump declaring civil war if he is impeached?
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4470 on: October 01, 2019, 02:13:22 PM »
It's all lies by the pro shark media!

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« Reply #4471 on: October 01, 2019, 02:35:20 PM »
It's all lies by the pro shark media!

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« Reply #4472 on: October 03, 2019, 04:13:06 PM »
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« Reply #4473 on: October 03, 2019, 07:46:38 PM »
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/10/03/766816709/targeting-medicare-for-all-proposals-trump-lays-out-his-vision-for-medicare

Oh look, Trump is damning socialised medicine while promising to protect... socialized medicine?

Weird.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4474 on: October 04, 2019, 10:46:02 AM »
Trump has literally said China and Ukraine should investigate the Bidens.  On Camera.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-publicly-urges-china-ukraine-investigate-bidens-amid-impeachment-inquiry-n1061956
It certainly is refreshing to see a President demanding investigations into corruption!

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« Reply #4475 on: October 04, 2019, 11:09:30 AM »
Guess I didn't post it here.



Click the link.  Several text messages from the Ukrainian ambassador.

Short end: Ukraine needed to do the investigations for WH visits and such.  Look at the panic from Gordon in the last text like "Oh shit, you did not just reveal our illegal plans in a text?!  I need to make it sound like a misunderstanding in case someone reads this."
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« Reply #4476 on: October 04, 2019, 03:13:25 PM »
Trump has literally said China and Ukraine should investigate the Bidens.  On Camera.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-publicly-urges-china-ukraine-investigate-bidens-amid-impeachment-inquiry-n1061956
It certainly is refreshing to see a President demanding investigations into corruption!

How about a president demanding investigations into debunk conspiracy theories to damage his political enemies.

He's already sought help from the Russians the Chinese, the Ukrainians, who's next the Iranians?


Perhaps the Democrats should ask Germany to investigate Trump's dealings with Deutsche Bank.
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« Reply #4477 on: October 04, 2019, 03:35:58 PM »
Trump has literally said China and Ukraine should investigate the Bidens.  On Camera.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-publicly-urges-china-ukraine-investigate-bidens-amid-impeachment-inquiry-n1061956
It certainly is refreshing to see a President demanding investigations into corruption!

I couldn't help but laugh at the hypocrisy of his tweet yesterday where he talked about how it's his JOB to root out corruption.

As it is the job of the House to investigate corruption in his administration. But that's all an unfair witch hunt perpetrated by the Deep State and such treatment should never be given to a President and we need to investigate them for treason.

What a clown, am I right?

Meanwhile the corruption he's choosing to so fervently investigate (and attempting to enlist the aid of multiple foreign powers to investigate) was never important to him or anyone else until its target became a legitimate political threat to the President.

I mean it's almost like he's doing it for his own personal gain or something.
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Re: Trump
« Reply #4478 on: October 04, 2019, 03:54:52 PM »
Trump has literally said China and Ukraine should investigate the Bidens.  On Camera.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-publicly-urges-china-ukraine-investigate-bidens-amid-impeachment-inquiry-n1061956
It certainly is refreshing to see a President demanding investigations into corruption!

I couldn't help but laugh at the hypocrisy of his tweet yesterday where he talked about how it's his JOB to root out corruption.

As it is the job of the House to investigate corruption in his administration. But that's all an unfair witch hunt perpetrated by the Deep State and such treatment should never be given to a President and we need to investigate them for treason.

What a clown, am I right?

Meanwhile the corruption he's choosing to so fervently investigate (and attempting to enlist the aid of multiple foreign powers to investigate) was never important to him or anyone else until its target became a legitimate political threat to the President.

I mean it's almost like he's doing it for his own personal gain or something.

Not to mention any illegal dealings were done on foreign soil.  So makes it Odd Trump would try to root out corruption in another country while not filing charges in his own.
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« Reply #4479 on: October 04, 2019, 06:09:58 PM »
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