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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on May 13, 2025, 04:30:58 PM »

The luxury plane, which would be one of the most valuable gifts ever received by the U.S. government, would eventually be donated to Trump's presidential library after he leaves office, the source said.

Like I've said before, there is no Trump presidential library. This plane is a gift to Donald Trump himself, not to the office of the president or the federal government.

This is wrong. There is a Trump Presidential Library and it's part of the federal government. The plane is going back to the federal government.

https://www.trumplibrary.gov - "The Trump Presidential Library is part of the Presidential Libraries system administered by the National Archives and Records Administration, a federal agency."

The federal government will be deciding what to do with the plane after Trump leaves office.

So basically....

"I will gift my plane not to the next president but to...my library.  So the librarian can fly it or something."

>_>

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on May 13, 2025, 04:29:51 PM »

Oh he won't care about that.  What he should care about …

Come now, we all know that he doesn’t care about a great number of things that he should care about.  You know, things like not crashing the world economy or defending the constitution.

Not dying is something Trump cares alot about.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Tom Bishop on May 13, 2025, 04:25:09 PM »

The luxury plane, which would be one of the most valuable gifts ever received by the U.S. government, would eventually be donated to Trump's presidential library after he leaves office, the source said.

Like I've said before, there is no Trump presidential library. This plane is a gift to Donald Trump himself, not to the office of the president or the federal government.

This is wrong. There is a Trump Presidential Library and it's part of the federal government. The plane is going back to the federal government.

https://www.trumplibrary.gov - "The Trump Presidential Library is part of the Presidential Libraries system administered by the National Archives and Records Administration, a federal agency."

The federal government will be deciding what to do with the plane after Trump leaves office.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on May 13, 2025, 12:47:55 PM »

Oh he won't care about that.  What he should care about …

Come now, we all know that he doesn’t care about a great number of things that he should care about.  You know, things like not crashing the world economy or defending the constitution.

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Flat Earth Investigations / Re: Physicist Brian Cox on Universal Acceleration

« Last post by AATW on May 13, 2025, 08:55:44 AM »

Things do not "fall" to the ground. The so-called "falling" is nothing more than the result of the Earth accelerating upwards at 9.8 m/s², as evidenced by direct observations and experiments.

Then why do your cherry-picked quotes not say that then. Literally the first one you quote says:

In both situations you are accelerating upwards. In the latter situation it is the lift that is responsible for your acceleration. In the former, it is the fact that the Earth is solid that pushes you upwards through space-time

And:

That the surface of the Earth can accelerate upwards at every point on its surface, and remain as a solid object, is because it exists in a curved space-time and not in a flat space.

Once again you've quoted something which doesn't even say what you're trying to pretend it says.
And in your model why doesn't the acceleration mean the earth is now going faster than the speed of light? Don't worry, bro, special relativity has you covered:
https://wiki.tfes.org/Universal_Acceleration#Why_doesn.27t_the_Earth.27s_velocity_reach_the_speed_of_light.3F

Cherry picking again. You dismiss Special Relativity as some "abstract explanation" when it suits you, you accept and use it to explain other things when it suits you.
It's so intellectually dishonest. And once again you conflate "I don't understand this" with "this can't be true". The rest of your post is a box set of your arguments from incredulity. As a "wise" man once said:

Claiming incredulity is a pretty bad argument

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Lord Dave on May 13, 2025, 05:17:21 AM »

Given how long it takes to upgrade a 747 to Air Force One standards, I seriously doubt that it will ever be legitimately used as Air Force One.  They might just as well hand it over to the Trump library off the bat.

It's far more likely that they won't bother upgrading or modifying it at all, and Trump will just use it as-is. Who's going to stop him?

He’ll have to wait for the upgrades if he wants to communicate on a platform more secure than Signal.

Oh he won't care about that.  What he should care about is all the stuff that keeps him from being shot out of the sky.  Or surviving a crash if it happens.  Or medical services onboard.  Inflight refueling.  You know... Stuff for a long term command center of the president.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on May 13, 2025, 03:07:38 AM »

Given how long it takes to upgrade a 747 to Air Force One standards, I seriously doubt that it will ever be legitimately used as Air Force One.  They might just as well hand it over to the Trump library off the bat.

It's far more likely that they won't bother upgrading or modifying it at all, and Trump will just use it as-is. Who's going to stop him?

He’ll have to wait for the upgrades if he wants to communicate on a platform more secure than Signal.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by honk on May 12, 2025, 09:11:30 PM »

Given how long it takes to upgrade a 747 to Air Force One standards, I seriously doubt that it will ever be legitimately used as Air Force One.  They might just as well hand it over to the Trump library off the bat.

It's far more likely that they won't bother upgrading or modifying it at all, and Trump will just use it as-is. Who's going to stop him?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by markjo on May 12, 2025, 07:15:54 PM »

Given how long it takes to upgrade a 747 to Air Force One standards, I seriously doubt that it will ever be legitimately used as Air Force One.  They might just as well hand it over to the Trump library off the bat.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« Last post by Action80 on May 12, 2025, 07:05:44 PM »

As I thought, simply labeling something as something.

"SOMETHING IS WRONGITIS!!!"