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Other Discussion Boards => Arts & Entertainment => Topic started by: Vindictus on October 07, 2014, 05:37:26 AM
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Not sure if anyone here watches a lot of anime, but lately I've been getting through a few series/movies and thought it would make a decent thread. I'm also looking for recommendations from our fine members, as I trust their opinions more than randoms in Google results.
The stuff I've enjoyed most is Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Shingeki no Kyojin/Attack on Titan, Cowboy Bebop and the Studio Ghibli films that I've seen. I did not like Evangelion, the series or the movies, although I'm yet to finish them. Anyone else have some favourite anime?
pls no weeaboo jokes
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Samurai Champloo. Made by the same guy who did Cowboy Bebop.
The original Mobile Suit Gundam is also a must-see if you can get past the 60s animation.
I would not recommend Evangelion.
And don't crucify me, but Death Note is a good one time watch. So I recommend that.
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I can't find a Cowboy Bepop collection that doesn't have the aspect ratio set at 4:3. Yeah, I know "blah blah blah original ratio best viewing experience" the black bars on the sides of the TV bother the hell out of me.
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I saw Mobile Suit Gundam: 08th MS team ages ago and it was alright. I'm also gonna give Gurren Lagann a shot.
K, added more stuff to my list.
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Samurai Champloo is good.
I just finished the one season of Noragami that's on Netflix, but it might be more for a female audience. Some aspects of it remind me of Inuyasha which was my intro to anime and still holds a very special place in my heart.
Soul Eater is pretty cool too if you can get into the style of it.
I just realized both of those anime have people transforming into weapons. Maybe I'm not the best at recommending anime.
Oh! But Claymore is pretty fucking cool. That one doesn't seem to be for a specific gender audience.
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I've been keeping up with SAO. It's on SAO 2 now which I'm watching subbed via Crunchyroll. :D
My sister-in-law is watching Bleach here and I've been glancing at it.
I also recommend Excel Saga if you want some crazy stuff.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWru5o07j_I
The greatest anime ever.
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I believe Samurai Champloo is on Netflix. At least it was the last time I checked. But they remove/add stuff all the time.
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Ghost Stories is my favourite Japanese animes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxJ4VWoeOzs
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I'm partial to anime, or at least now and then. I go through phases where I watch two or three series in succession and phases where I can't stand to watch even one episode. Don't know why, but it's always been that way for me. When I do watch them I usually do a review (collected here (https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Crudblud/anime/)*) and I think I make a decent enough job of it.
*the reviews prior to Jin-Roh are not good, don't read them
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I'm partial to anime, or at least now and then. I go through phases where I watch two or three series in succession and phases where I can't stand to watch even one episode. Don't know why, but it's always been that way for me. When I do watch them I usually do a review (collected here (https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Crudblud/anime/)*) and I think I make a decent enough job of it.
*the reviews prior to Jin-Roh are not good, don't read them
Damn, I'm impressed. I like your review of Ninja Scroll. It's probably my favorite anime movie.
Jubei's underwater slash gets me every time, and the battle with the blind samurai.
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I'm partial to anime, or at least now and then. I go through phases where I watch two or three series in succession and phases where I can't stand to watch even one episode. Don't know why, but it's always been that way for me. When I do watch them I usually do a review (collected here (https://rateyourmusic.com/list/Crudblud/anime/)*) and I think I make a decent enough job of it.
*the reviews prior to Jin-Roh are not good, don't read them
Damn, I'm impressed. I like your review of Ninja Scroll. It's probably my favorite anime movie.
Jubei's underwater slash gets me every time, and the battle with the blind samurai.
It was great fun the first time I saw it. I'd like to do it again at some point, but haven't been in the mood for anime lately.
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I've been keeping up with SAO. It's on SAO 2 now which I'm watching subbed via Crunchyroll. :D
My sister-in-law is watching Bleach here and I've been glancing at it.
I also recommend Excel Saga if you want some crazy stuff.
I tired to get into Sword Art Online, but Kirito is the biggest mary sue in anime which prevented me from enjoying it.
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Has anyone seen this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ0ymYGQNa8
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I've been keeping up with SAO. It's on SAO 2 now which I'm watching subbed via Crunchyroll. :D
My sister-in-law is watching Bleach here and I've been glancing at it.
I also recommend Excel Saga if you want some crazy stuff.
I tired to get into Sword Art Online, but Kirito is the biggest mary sue in anime which prevented me from enjoying it.
I suggest you try anyway but with the image of an mmo player who is 10 levels above most people. That's how I see him anyway: just strolling through lowbie content during most episodes.
Also: Goku from DBZ is probably a bigger one. Just saying.
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Also: Goku from DBZ is probably a bigger one. Just saying.
Well yeah, but he's Goku.
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Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayonara,_Zetsubou-Sensei#Anime) (usually translated as So Long, Mr. Despair, at least when it comes to the anime) is pretty much the only animu you'll ever need to watch. (´・ω・`)
(http://images1.fanpop.com/images/photos/2200000/despair-sayonara-zetsubou-sensei-2200043-590-473.jpg)
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Magica Madoka
It looks like it would be dumb with the super girly costume designs, but the art is actually pretty awesome and the story is mature. There's lots of fighting and death.
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Magica Madoka
Is that CLAMP?
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(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608031790194295871&pid=15.1&P=0)
ANIMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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It took that long for a bad joke.
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I think we can all agree it was worth the wait.
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NEW RECORD!
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Magica Madoka
Is that CLAMP?
Definitely not.
The only CLAMP I've seen is Chobits and I wouldn't recommend that one.
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Magica Madoka
Is that CLAMP?
Definitely not.
The only CLAMP I've seen is Chobits and I wouldn't recommend that one.
X/1999 is alright, so is Magic Knight Rayearth. The manga, not the anime.
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About halfway through Knights of Sidonia. It's not great. It started off alright; the nobody thrust into the spotlight is an interesting enough trope. But it got worse as the episodes went on. The main character is literally an otaku straight from 4chan. He has a harem that he neither recognizes nor seems interested in. Heavy handed exposition is galore, with major characters standing around explaining back story in what must be the weirdest conversations ever. There's also a talking bear for some god damn reason. Oh, and it's rendered at like 8fps or some shit so it looks slightly strange as well, like weird slow 3D anime, but I suppose that's a matter of taste.
It has some good elements, the sci-fi ones like human photosynthesis and breaking dead people down for energy is cool. The fight scenes are cool, shit everything about the 'Guard' mecha suits is cool. But everything else is shit. It reminds me of Eva, where the fights and themes are compelling but the second Shinji starts fucking sulking again I can't help but get annoyed and turn it off. I'm confused that people called this 'Attack on Titan in space', since it may be similar thematically but is completely different in execution.
tl;dr don't watch Knights of Sidonia. Next up is Death Note.
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Main character is surrounded by 10 horny girls who wants his dick and constantly drops hints but he's too fucking dense to figure it out. He thinks they're just being friendly.
Show ends with either the most bland and boring girl winning, or it ends with main character still too fucking dense and nothing is resolved.
Every shounen anime ever.
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Why is the harem setup so common in anime?
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It's a weeb favourite.
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Why is the harem setup so common in anime?
Anime is a serious medium that deals with serious concepts. There is an episode of Full Medal Alchemy where one of the characters is turned into a retarded dog and it literally made me think about philosophy and feelings for 12 hours straight.
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That episode is so depressing.
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Why is the harem setup so common in anime?
Do you know anything about Japan?
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That episode is so depressing.
Aren't they all?
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Why is the harem setup so common in anime?
Otaku audience.
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(http://elohell.net/public/comments/small/22c1235c06805bc64931790dfe0d0bef.jpg)
MISO OTAKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Main character is surrounded by 10 horny girls who wants his dick and constantly drops hints but he's too fucking dense to figure it out. He thinks they're just being friendly.
Show ends with either the most bland and boring girl winning, or it ends with main character still too fucking dense and nothing is resolved.
Every shounen anime ever.
You haven't seen much anime, have you?
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muh powerlevel
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I think Knights of Sidonia is the first time I've come across really blatant harem elements, I try to avoid that crap.
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Nothing I watch has harem elements... I think the first and only time I really saw that was Tenchi Muyo on Adult Swim.
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rooster is in a harem.
It's true.
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The worst anime I've seen with harem elements was Highschool of the Dead.
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Violinist of Hamlin is a good one. It's one of the best anime I've seen with the lowest budget. How low? They use still shots about 30-50% of the time. But you know what? It's fucking awesome.
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Zoids is the best anime.
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Zoids is the best anime.
No. Beyblade.
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Zoids is the best anime.
No. Beyblade.
I'm being serious.
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No you're not.
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wait, are you?
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Zoids was pretty cool. For realsies.
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Just today I got into the series Ai Tenchi Muyo; another sequel/re-imagining/reboot of the Tenchi franchise. It's fun so far because it has all the original characters plus a bunch of new characters, and it's fairly well animated. Each episode is about 4-minutes long, which is fine since I don't really have time to sit down and watch anything these days.
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I wasn't aware that Tenchi was getting a reboot. Did they tone down the harem elements at all?
Also, Vinny, what are your impressions of Death Note?
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Tone down the harem? Not at all. Now there are even more girls after Tenchi. I'm not really sure how this new show is connected to past Tenchi series, but it's fun on it's own. Certainly more fun than GXP.
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I wasn't aware that Tenchi was getting a reboot. Did they tone down the harem elements at all?
Also, Vinny, what are your impressions of Death Note?
I've been distracted by Samurai Champloo, Death Note is still sitting on Netflix waiting to be watched.
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I take it you're enjoying Jin and Mugen's antics, then?
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Yeah, it's another good anime. Not as enjoyable as Bebop, it lacks on the musical side a bit (even though I enjoy the hiphop mash up with samurai back drop) and is lighter on the themes. But still very well put together and the fight scenes are very enjoyable.
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Finished Samurai Champloo. Somewhat disappointed that Fuu's father turned out to be some Christian who fled to protect his family, I was afraid he would turn out to be little more than a plot device for the characters to chase and that's unfortunately what happened. Also strange that they bring a master samurai out of nowhere, but I think they handled him well by using him to explain Jin's past. Final fights were great, especially Mugen's, and it did leave me wanting more.
I'll probably move on to Death Note now.. then Monster. Has anyone watched Space Dandy, and is it worth a shot?
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From what I've seen of Space Dandy, it's not worth it unless you just like cheap humour.
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Just watched the movie Akira and I can say it does deserve its created as being the genesis of a genre. While the cinematic feeling of the movie is superb, due to its age and being, well, the point of genre genesis, it feels cliche. Even to the point that I could actively predict what was going to happen throughout the movie. This doesn't mean it is bad, far from it, it just means I've seen a lot of anime previously that has basically either copied or built upon its values.
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Just watched the movie Akira and I can say it does deserve its created as being the genesis of a genre. While the cinematic feeling of the movie is superb, due to its age and being, well, the point of genre genesis, it feels cliche. Even to the point that I could actively predict what was going to happen throughout the movie. This doesn't mean it is bad, far from it, it just means I've seen a lot of anime previously that has basically either copied or built upon its values.
My favorite scene is when Tetsuo crushes his girlfriend. The rest of the movie is meh. I basically feel the same way you do about it. As far as overly violent pioneering anime movies go, I prefer Vampire Hunter D (1985) or Ninja Scroll. Of which I recommend both, just for their historical value on the genre... and because Ninja Scroll is just amazing.
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As I said to Blanko a couple of weeks ago, Akira is beautifully animated and has a great soundtrack, but doesn't really have much else going for it. The story of the manga was hacked apart, rearranged and stitched back together to fit a feature runtime and it suffers horribly because of this. It's historically important, but not a great movie.
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Are you people watching with subs or dubs?
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Oh no
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Just out of curiosity. Not trying to stir shit up.
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Are you people watching with subs or dubs?
I generally watch with subs. I reserve dubs for special cases such as Genocyber or Angel Cop, which would probably be impossible to sit through without the hilarious English voice acting. The latter is even funnier when you realise that the English translation actually changes the story to make the bad guys communists and not Jews.
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Are you people watching with subs or dubs?
I usually watch subbed unless I've been imprinted with the dub already. For example: DBZ sub sounds weird as does Berserk sub. So I only watch those dubbed.
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People always hate how Goku and his sons sounds like women.
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I typically watch everything subbed. Like Dave, I make exceptions to things that I'm already used to dubbed.
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Subbed. I even go back on old stuff to watch the subbed versions. It always seems like you miss a lot of the real story when it's dubbed.
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I only watch dubs. I refuse to read my way through an animated storybook.
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I watch subs where I have to and dubs where I can, unless it compromises the quality. So far it seems like every dub I have watched has been damn good.
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Lol you guys are anime snobs
I only watch dubbed if possible. I find it easier to relate to characters when they are speaking my language.
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Lol you guys are anime snobs
I only watch dubbed if possible. I find it easier to relate to characters when they are speaking my language.
Are you able to relate to characters in books when you are just reading the language?
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Lol you guys are anime snobs
I only watch dubbed if possible. I find it easier to relate to characters when they are speaking my language.
Are you able to relate to characters in books when you are just reading the language?
Nope.
Well yes. But I find the Japanese yelling and screaming distracting. I'll watch subbed if there's no dub, but I prefer dubbed.
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You're a weirdo. I watched AoT without the dub, and besides missing half of the episode looking at the bottom of the screen, I never found it hard to relate to the characters.
I never understood the fascination with watching things only with subs. I see it from time to time and it just strikes me as some weird hardcore weeaboo thing.
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I agree. I don't think it's an absolute rule that subs are better than dubs. I mean, Cowboy Bebop is a popular example that directly refutes it, but it is kind of a special case given that it is heavily oriented towards western pop culture. It's the same for The Big O, which obviously owes a lot to film noir. I also agree with Dave, it's not so easy for me to watch stuff I first encountered in Eng dub in the original Japanese, though it can be interesting to compare the two. At the same time, I do feel like the Japanese is more natural sounding in most anime, especially since a lot of it deals directly with Japanese culture and is in some cases inspired design-wise by traditional Japanese art and theatre.
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Crudblud hit on it.
I'm definitely not a hardcore weeaboo. Japanese culture is probably my least favorite of the eastern world.
Subs just seem more natural and the voice acting is usually better (not always). And like I said before, when comparing the two I notice that a lot of details are missed with dubbing. For the shows I typically watch, the dubs are also more PG than the Japanese script which is pretty lame. After a few minutes I forget I'm even reading anything. The only downside is that you have to always be watching, obviously. I can't run into the kitchen and grab a beer without missing something.
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You're a weirdo. I watched AoT without the dub, and besides missing half of the episode looking at the bottom of the screen, I never found it hard to relate to the characters.
I never understood the fascination with watching things only with subs. I see it from time to time and it just strikes me as some weird hardcore weeaboo thing.
What do you mean? I'm pretty sure only hardcore anime fans watch with subs because only hardcore anime fans ever encounter anime that wasn't dubbed. I watched Fullmetal Alchemist/Cowboy Bepop because it was on TV and mainstream television networks don't show subbed titles. I avoid pretty much all foreign language films, not just anime. If I wanted to read something I'd read a book.
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You're a weirdo. I watched AoT without the dub, and besides missing half of the episode looking at the bottom of the screen, I never found it hard to relate to the characters.
I never understood the fascination with watching things only with subs. I see it from time to time and it just strikes me as some weird hardcore weeaboo thing.
What do you mean? I'm pretty sure only hardcore anime fans watch with subs because only hardcore anime fans ever encounter anime that wasn't dubbed. I watched Fullmetal Alchemist/Cowboy Bepop because it was on TV and mainstream television networks don't show subbed titles. I avoid pretty much all foreign language films, not just anime. If I wanted to read something I'd read a book.
It's just a feeling I've come across while browsing online anime social groups. Some people seem to think that you should watch everything subbed because the dub is terrible and not the way it was made. I've seen people saying this about Cowboy Bebop, which is just bizarre.
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Well those things are true. Dubbing is usually awful regardless of the language and it's not how the show/movie was made.
But I don't see how that makes someone a hardcore weeaboo. I would say the same of any foreign dubbed movie or show. But I also don't care if someone rather watch dubbed anime cause I'm not a jerk.
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The only thing that bothers me about dubs is more often than not the characters mouth motions clearly don't line up to their english speech. This was especially prevalent in Akira because the scenes were drawn individually.
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Well those things are true. Dubbing is usually awful regardless of the language and it's not how the show/movie was made.
But I don't see how that makes someone a hardcore weeaboo. I would say the same of any foreign dubbed movie or show. But I also don't care if someone rather watch dubbed anime cause I'm not a jerk.
confirmed for hardcore weeaboo
I haven't seen a terrible lot of anime but I've never seen a dub that bothered me. Actually, I've seen an AoT dub and I flat out don't like some of the VO's used, but I'm not sure if it was official or not.
The only thing that bothers me about dubs is more often than not the characters mouth motions clearly don't line up to their english speech. This was especially prevalent in Akira because the scenes were drawn individually.
The advantage of anime here is that the mouth movement is pretty indistinct already.
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It depends on the anime. In some you can get over pretty quickly, in others that often have a single character as the scene center, it can get really obnoxious to notice that their mouth is completely out of sync with their speech.
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What I've encountered with dubs, especially in less popular titles, is that the voice actors, and more often actresses, often overplay it and intentionally puts on an exaggerated, almost cartoony voice, just because it's an animated title. Of course, this might happen in the original Japanese as well, but only with wonky and retarded comic relief characters.
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Do any of you speak Japanese? If not, how are you qualified to judge Japanese voice acting?
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Do any of you speak Japanese? If not, how are you qualified to judge Japanese voice acting?
Because the voices don't sound as stupid.
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I think you'd have to be pretty culturally submerged with Japanese influences before you could judge whether a voice sounds stupid or not.
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What Rushy said.
You're all just elitist scum.
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I think you'd have to be pretty culturally submerged with Japanese influences before you could judge whether a voice sounds stupid or not.
I don't see why. It's just the sound of a voice. You can usually tell when one is being too goofy or cartoony without understanding what they're saying. Tone is what's important, not the language.
For example: Japanese bad guys generally sound kinda stupid. You can always tell a bad guy because he speaks low and deep and without a whole lot of inflection or emotion.
And I'm definitely not being elitist.. I really don't care if you like English voices better. But I do watch my fair share of foreign movies and subtitles have never bothered me one bit. I just genuinely enjoy hearing different languages as well. I'm not very good at learning them but they are an interest of mine.
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I think you'd have to be pretty culturally submerged with Japanese influences before you could judge whether a voice sounds stupid or not.
I don't see why. It's just the sound of a voice. You can usually tell when one is being too goofy or cartoony without understanding what they're saying. Tone is what's important, not the language.
For example: Japanese bad guys generally sound kinda stupid. You can always tell a bad guy because he speaks low and deep and without a whole lot of inflection or emotion.
And I'm definitely not being elitist.. I really don't care if you like English voices better. But I do watch my fair share of foreign movies and subtitles have never bothered me one bit. I just genuinely enjoy hearing different languages as well. I'm not very good at learning them but they are an interest of mine.
Tone? How can you understand the subtle nuances in the language used? You speak of inflection, but how can you really understand the pronunciation and inflection in someone's voice when you don't understand what they're saying?? Because they yell? Or talk low? Not understanding a language makes emotional context difficult.
Most people like subs because it came first and somehow that makes it better, or more authentic. But really... The order in which they were voiced doesn't change anything about an actor's performance or the general message of the work itself. Most dubbed shows that sound cartoony or kiddish also sound cartoony in the Japanese version, you just can't tell. It's all down to personal preference. It annoys me when people come along and take the "dubbed is inferior to subbed" stance without understanding Japanese. You have no idea what you're talking about, but at least you're cool because you watch subbed, right?
I understand preferring subbed to dubbed when there is heavy censorship in the dubbed version, but even that doesn't bother me so much. If you need to hear curse words in a language you don't understand to enjoy a show, then you're doing it wrong to begin with.
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The most important reason of all to avoid dubs is that the voice actors who provide dubbing tend to suck. It kind of reminds me of the joke about Mexico not having a good Olympics team - if these guys were any good at their job, why would they still be doing dubs?
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The most important reason of all to avoid dubs is that the voice actors who provide dubbing tend to suck. It kind of reminds me of the joke about Mexico not having a good Olympics team - if these guys were any good at their job, why would they still be doing dubs?
That's one of many typical excuses given when asked why people prefer subs. Yet there are many examples that prove this to be incorrect. And there are many anime voice actors who also do voice acting in video games and other media, and many have large cult followings. Some of them are actually.. *gasps*... real actors.
How do you know the JP voice actor doesn't suck? Your "joke" honestly applies more to JP voice actors than English ones.
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Japanese voice actors (seiyuu) are not the same as western voice actors, it's a different tradition. Unlike much modern western acting it doesn't attempt to be realistic, it's more theatrical, like a Shakespeare play. That's why weeaboos who learn Japanese with the help of anime tend to get laughed at by actual Japanese people, it's almost totally alien to everyday Japanese speech.
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I think you'd have to be pretty culturally submerged with Japanese influences before you could judge whether a voice sounds stupid or not.
I don't see why. It's just the sound of a voice. You can usually tell when one is being too goofy or cartoony without understanding what they're saying. Tone is what's important, not the language.
For example: Japanese bad guys generally sound kinda stupid. You can always tell a bad guy because he speaks low and deep and without a whole lot of inflection or emotion.
And I'm definitely not being elitist.. I really don't care if you like English voices better. But I do watch my fair share of foreign movies and subtitles have never bothered me one bit. I just genuinely enjoy hearing different languages as well. I'm not very good at learning them but they are an interest of mine.
Tone? How can you understand the subtle nuances in the language used? You speak of inflection, but how can you really understand the pronunciation and inflection in someone's voice when you don't understand what they're saying?? Because they yell? Or talk low? Not understanding a language makes emotional context difficult.
Most people like subs because it came first and somehow that makes it better, or more authentic. But really... The order in which they were voiced doesn't change anything about an actor's performance or the general message of the work itself. Most dubbed shows that sound cartoony or kiddish also sound cartoony in the Japanese version, you just can't tell. It's all down to personal preference. It annoys me when people come along and take the "dubbed is inferior to subbed" stance without understanding Japanese. You have no idea what you're talking about, but at least you're cool because you watch subbed, right?
I understand preferring subbed to dubbed when there is heavy censorship in the dubbed version, but even that doesn't bother me so much. If you need to hear curse words in a language you don't understand to enjoy a show, then you're doing it wrong to begin with.
A lot of the voice actors for dubbing are the same recycled people. And *gasp* some of those people have voices I can't stand.
Some stuff is done really well. Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop are good examples, but the bad examples outweigh the good ones.
And it's not just censorship, the dialogue can be very different with a dub. They try and make the voices match the mouth so a lot gets re-arranged or cut altogether.
I don't see how watching it subbed makes me cool. It's just how I prefer it cause I hate the way English sounds with a Japanese cartoon. I'm sorry this makes you feel so insecure.
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A lot of the voice actors for dubbing are the same recycled people. And *gasp* some of those people have voices I can't stand.
Personal preference, then.
And the recycled bit applies to Japanese voice acting as well. There are many recycled JP voice actors in anime.
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Personal preference, then.
Literally Sherlock Holmes. You managed to deduce that it's personal preference from her telling you about her personal preference on this issue
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A lot of the voice actors for dubbing are the same recycled people. And *gasp* some of those people have voices I can't stand.
Personal preference, then.
That's what I was saying ALL ALONG.
Preferring to hear one voice over another is a subjective matter. Thinking a voice sucks IS A SUBJECTIVE MATTER.
Stop being so stupid.
And the recycled bit applies to Japanese voice acting as well. There are many recycled JP voice actors in anime.
Yeah, I just can't tell because I can't relate to them.
Personal preference, then.
Literally Sherlock Holmes. You managed to deduce that it's personal preference from her telling you about her personal preference on this issue
Fucking right?
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No. I mentioned personal preference in an earlier post. Learn 2 read. Both of you.
Arguments being made here make it seem like subbed is better than dubbed, but it comes down to personal preference and in actuality dubbed is better than subbed regardless due to immersion. So you're all wrong and I'm right. Get over it.
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k
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That's it? ::)
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Dubs are objectively better than subs. Dubs engage both sight and sound, while subs only engage sight.
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smh
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No. I mentioned personal preference in an earlier post. Learn 2 read. Both of you.
Arguments being made here make it seem like subbed is better than dubbed, but it comes down to personal preference and in actuality dubbed is better than subbed regardless due to immersion. So you're all wrong and I'm right. Get over it.
retart
Dubs are objectively better than subs. Dubs engage both sight and sound, while subs only engage sight.
Nah, you can still hear Japanese voices- which happen to be human voices- which happen to carry emotion. Unless you're deaf, it's still engaging.
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Dubbed means you don't have to concentrate all your attention on the bottom of the screen, which means you get to experience more of the artstyle/imagery/whatever. This directly increases immersion modifiers. This is objectively better.
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Nah, you can still hear Japanese voices- which happen to be human voices- which happen to carry emotion. Unless you're deaf, it's still engaging.
You have no idea what the Japanese actors are actually saying. There is only so much a strict text subtitle can convey. This is plainly obvious when, for example, using sarcasm in this or any forum. Sarcasm requires hearing cues, which can't be properly conveyed via text unless you use some sort of /s symbol. There are many, many types of communication that cannot be conveyed using only text.
By reading subtitled anime, you're emotionally hamstringing the entertainment experience.
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ok you're all filthy weebs and none of this fucking matters
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ok you're all filthy weebs and none of this fucking matters
This is very important, Blanko.
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The text goes with the voices you're hearing. If you can't pick up on sarcasm when reading it to the sound of the voice then I can see why you hate subtitles.
You'd both be surprised how seamless it is when you get involved in the story. In my memory, I often can't remember reading subtitles. Sometimes my memory warps it so that I think I heard the words rather than read them. That's immersion.
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You'd both be surprised how seamless it is when you get involved in the story. In my memory, I often can't remember reading subtitles. Sometimes my memory warps it so that I think I heard the words rather than read them. That's immersion.
Yes, but how much of the action do you miss by having to concentrate on the subtitles? That's most important.
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You'd both be surprised how seamless it is when you get involved in the story. In my memory, I often can't remember reading subtitles. Sometimes my memory warps it so that I think I heard the words rather than read them. That's immersion.
Yes, but how much of the action do you miss by having to concentrate on the subtitles? That's most important.
Are you really that slow of a reader?
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You'd both be surprised how seamless it is when you get involved in the story. In my memory, I often can't remember reading subtitles. Sometimes my memory warps it so that I think I heard the words rather than read them. That's immersion.
Yes, but how much of the action do you miss by having to concentrate on the subtitles? That's most important.
Are you really that slow of a reader?
I find it unlikely that rooster is getting as much from the animation as someone who is watching it dubbed without subtitles. Are you telling me that you can read subtitles without looking at them?
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Only childrens cartoons and some kid-friendly movies gets dubbed over here, so I've grown up watching movies and tv series with subtitles, and it has never ever bothered me.
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I find it unlikely that rooster is getting as much from the animation as someone who is watching it dubbed without subtitles. Are you telling me that you can read subtitles without looking at them?
When I compare the dubs and subs, there's no action I miss. I'm looking at the same screen so I can see movement while reading... And if I happen to miss a tiny millisecond, my brain can automatically fill in the the gap of a movement from point A to B because brains are amazing like that.
If I were missing huge chunks of action I really doubt my brain would be able to seamlessly merge the words with action like I already said it does. I walk away from the tv without pausing, especially when I've been drinking, only to remember that I need to read subtitles to know what's happening. When you're used to it like that and get into the story, you don't even notice.
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The brain as a prediction engine is very accurate. The brain as a regression engine is terribly inaccurate. The information your mind is "filling in" that you missed is more than likely completely wrong. This is demonstrable fact and has been studied extensively. It is also why eye witnesses are the most inaccurate type of court testimony.
Any time you spend reading subtitles is time you're spending not looking at the scene, you can't do both.
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I would like to see one of those studies that demonstrates that the brain is better at "prediction" than "regression".
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I would like to see one of those studies that demonstrates that the brain is better at "prediction" than "regression".
Even if Rushy did make this up (which would not be surprising), it's still extremely unlikely that one would read fast enough to process every frame in an episode whilst reading subtitles.
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I think you guys are just jealous that you can't read and watch something at the same time.
Also Rushy, memory is faulty. That's why eyewitness testimony is unreliable. I said my memory makes it seem like I heard the words in an anime rather than read them. That's why PP2 mashed two songs in his head and thought it was one. Memory is weird. But filling in a 5 second gap is not difficult.
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But filling in a 5 second gap is not difficult.
So what you're saying is that you missed 5 seconds of animation, and then you made up something to fill in the gap? And this is the optimal way of watching anime? :o
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Probably <1% of all anime has enough detail in art and fluidity of animation during dialogue scenes to make reading subs even remotely problematic. That's all I will say on the matter.
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Probably <1%
Sounds legit.
5 seconds, though? You could miss a crucial scene in that time. Ans also, why miss any of it? Just watch dubbed and you won't have to divide your attention at all.
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But filling in a 5 second gap is not difficult.
So what you're saying is that you missed 5 seconds of animation, and then you made up something to fill in the gap? And this is the optimal way of watching anime? :o
If you've read everything I've been saying.. no. I said that doing it is not difficult for a brain.
"If I happen to miss" was said earlier. But I have yet to ever notice missing anything.
It's possible I could be missing the teensiest amount of movement, but I absolutely never notice it. If I felt like I were missing bits of the show, not getting immersed, or generally having a difficult time enjoying the show then I wouldn't watch a subbed video.
Probably <1% of all anime has enough detail in art and fluidity of animation during dialogue scenes to make reading subs even remotely problematic. That's all I will say on the matter.
Yes. But it still doesn't make a difference if I'm watching subtitles for an anime or for a live action foreign film.
Edit: I swear I put in 5 miliseconds. Damn autocorrect and memory playing tricks on me.
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Just watch dubbed and you won't have to divide your attention at all.
STOP TRYING TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE! >o<
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rooster, would you consider watching a show with 1 out of every 10 frames removed the optimal way to watch that show?
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rooster, would you consider watching a show with 1 out of every 10 frames removed the optimal way to watch that show?
Are you suggesting that the rest of the screen is blacked out from your vision when you look at the bottom of it?
Are you telling me that you can't see what's happening when you read these subtitles?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrGjYn12wMI
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Are you telling me that you can't see what's happening when you read these subtitles?
On youtube, not really. But I have a big TV. Subs requires me to look at the bottom of the TV, which makes it more difficult to tell what's going on above that. Of course I can still see what's going on, but I'm not processing it the way I would be if I didn't have to read subtitles.
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There's a couple of minor details I missed in AoT while watching subs. Nothing big, just things like Ymir checking out Christa.
Maybe we should just learn Japanese.
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Maybe we should just learn Japanese.
ew no
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Maybe we should just learn Japanese.
ew no
Racist.
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So what did we learn today, class?
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The rooster is a racist weeaboo
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I think you guys are just jealous that you can't read and watch something at the same time.
What? This is humanly impossible unless your eyes can focus on two things at the same time, which I honestly doubt.
Also Rushy, memory is faulty. That's why eyewitness testimony is unreliable. I said my memory makes it seem like I heard the words in an anime rather than read them. That's why PP2 mashed two songs in his head and thought it was one. Memory is weird. But filling in a 5 second gap is not difficult.
Filling in a 5 second gap is extremely difficult, because the chance to make things up that didn't happen is very high.
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Seriously, just watch the video. It's not difficult at all.
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Seriously, just watch the video. It's not difficult at all.
We know what subs are.
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This is when a thread should be locked. Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMrOxRmJXA
Sublime.
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sadam pls
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This is when a thread should be locked. Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GMrOxRmJXA
Sublime.
You have to understand the context though. He kept getting killed (or damn near close) but kept recovering wounds that would of slaughtered any other person. When he chose to give it up and was questioned by it he put it simply that, "People die when they are killed, and that is how it should be."
Yeah, something was probably said that didn't translate very well into english, but the overall context makes sense.
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All your base are belong to us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfMC2aVhYuo
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There's heaps of butchered fan dubs of popular anime intro's on Youtube.
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"People die when they are killed" is actually one of the best lines in that anime.
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I find it unlikely that rooster is getting as much from the animation as someone who is watching it dubbed without subtitles. Are you telling me that you can read subtitles without looking at them?
Just about. I don't sit so close to my screen that, when reading subtitles, I can't see the rest of the screen as well. You shouldn't do that, it's silly. And, I don't know if you guys are amazingly slow readers or if I'm just fast, but all I need to do is glance at them then go back to watching. During that glance, however, I still see the show.
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Ans also, why miss any of it? Just watch dubbed and you won't have to divide your attention at all.
But dubs suck.
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Shit got stirred up anyway.
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Ans also, why miss any of it? Just watch dubbed and you won't have to divide your attention at all.
But dubs suck.
Dubs are objectively better than subs.
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Ans also, why miss any of it? Just watch dubbed and you won't have to divide your attention at all.
But dubs suck.
Dubs are objectively better than subs.
This.
God tyou people are dum
Just about. I don't sit so close to my screen that, when reading subtitles, I can't see the rest of the screen as well. You shouldn't do that, it's silly. And, I don't know if you guys are amazingly slow readers or if I'm just fast, but all I need to do is glance at them then go back to watching. During that glance, however, I still see the show.
Sure, but you don't process it as efficiently as the dub master race. I'd argue that you haven't even watched an anime if you watched it subbed. That's how much you're missing.
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But dubs suck. I don't even know what the point of this conversation is. Do subs detract from the viewing experience? Yes, slightly. But then again, dubs are terrible, so it doesn't matter all that much.
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Inuyasha was my first favorite anime and it was dubbed on cartoon network. When I later rewatched it subbed I realized how much of the story I was missing.
Do I care about not giving my full attention to an anime mouth moving? No. But I care about missing the story and the real dialogue. And I care about American voices coming from what are clearly Japanese characters.
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dubs are terrible
Do you have a source for this? Maybe some examples? For every bad English dub, I can show you an equally terrible sounding Japanese language dub. Stop being an elitist. If you're watching subs, then you're not watching anime. You're partially watching it. To fully watch something you have to watch it in your own language, regardless of dub quality. Dub quality is subjective, while subs distracting from the action is not subjective: that's what subs do. Subs negatively impact the viewing experience. Period.
Subs are terrible for distracting the viewer and ruining immersion by having to divide your attention between what's going on and small white letters at the bottom of the screw. I can actually support my argument. Can you?
Inuyasha was my first favorite anime and it was dubbed on cartoon network. When I later rewatched it subbed I realized how much of the story I was missing.
Nice personal anecdote. Has no bearing on this discussion however.
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Okay, name one good English dub.
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Okay, name one good English dub.
A few have already been discussed in this thread. I believe it's a few posts back.
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No, I want you to name one.
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No, I want you to name one.
Why? What's the point? Do you not understand what subjective means? ???
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How does it have no bearing? Dubs butcher a story and dialogue. That's completely relevant.
And we've already said it doesn't ruin immersion.
You literally forget you're reading anything at all. Honky white voices coming out of characters wearing kimonos and wielding katanas ruins immersion.
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How does it have no bearing? Dubs butcher a story and dialogue. That's completely relevant.
No they don't.
Whether you notice it or not, you're not catching every frame. Therefore, the optimal way to watch anime is to watch it in your native language without subs so that you can focus your full attention on the artwork (which is one of the main draws of anime).
There is actually anime that benefits from dubs.
Hetalia: Axis Powers, for example. Every character represents a nation of the Earth. In the Japanese version, there are no accents for these characters... in the English dub there are appropriate accents for the characters, which adds to the viewing experience.
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No, I want you to name one.
Why? What's the point? Do you not understand what subjective means? ???
Sorry, is this a hard question? I'm just curious, name one.
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No, I want you to name one.
Why? What's the point? Do you not understand what subjective means? ???
Sorry, is this a hard question? I'm just curious, name one.
::)
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How does it have no bearing? Dubs butcher a story and dialogue. That's completely relevant.
No they don't.
Depends. Funimation is known for this. What they do is make the dub dialog fit the mouth movements. Watch the dubbed with subtitles, especially of Inuyasha and you'll see some radically different dialog inconsistencies.
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How does it have no bearing? Dubs butcher a story and dialogue. That's completely relevant.
No they don't.
Depends. Funimation is known for this. What they do is make the dub dialog fit the mouth movements. Watch the dubbed with subtitles, especially of Inuyasha and you'll see some radically different dialog inconsistencies.
If you're watching Funimation anime then your tastes are already questionable.
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No, I want you to name one.
Why? What's the point? Do you not understand what subjective means? ???
Sorry, is this a hard question? I'm just curious, name one.
::)
What's the matter? I just want to know what, in your opinion, is a good English dub. You do believe they exist, correct?
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Yes, dubs do butcher stories. And if they don't then they look retarded cause they don't fit the mouth movements at all. But it's one or the other.
And if you're watching Hetalia you're definitely not watching it for the artwork...
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Yes, dubs do butcher stories. And if they don't then they look retarded cause they don't fit the mouth movements at all. But it's one or the other.
Why? This happens in native-English cartoons as well. It's just something that you have to deal with when you're watching something that's animated. Japanese dubs don't even go along with mouth movements all the time. Your point is moot.
List of good English dubs (imo, subjective remember?):
Cowboy Bebop
Hetalia
Monster
Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
FLCL
Ghost in the Shell
Every Studio Ghibli film
MS Gundam: 08th MS Team
Ms Gundam: War in the Pocket
Samurai Champloo
Death Note
Code Geass
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Do I have to keep going, Blanko? You satisfied? I'm interested in your witty retort to this baited answer.
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Just about. I don't sit so close to my screen that, when reading subtitles, I can't see the rest of the screen as well. You shouldn't do that, it's silly. And, I don't know if you guys are amazingly slow readers or if I'm just fast, but all I need to do is glance at them then go back to watching. During that glance, however, I still see the show.
Sure, but you don't process it as efficiently as the dub master race. I'd argue that you haven't even watched an anime if you watched it subbed. That's how much you're missing.
I don't know why I thought you might not just be trying to be Rushy.
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Yes, dubs do butcher stories. And if they don't then they look retarded cause they don't fit the mouth movements at all. But it's one or the other.
Why? This happens in native-English cartoons as well. It's just something that you have to deal with when you're watching something that's animated. Japanese dubs don't even go along with mouth movements all the time. Your point is moot.
What? That made no sense. The animation is drawn for the script...
If dubs stick to the real script then they'll be speaking when there is no mouth movement at all. It's completely noticeable and stupid.
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I am not surprised Blanko takes the hipster weeaboo stance on this one.
Yes, dubs do butcher stories. And if they don't then they look retarded cause they don't fit the mouth movements at all. But it's one or the other.
Why? This happens in native-English cartoons as well. It's just something that you have to deal with when you're watching something that's animated. Japanese dubs don't even go along with mouth movements all the time. Your point is moot.
List of good English dubs (imo, subjective remember?):
Cowboy Bebop
Hetalia
Monster
Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
FLCL
Ghost in the Shell
Every Studio Ghibli
MS Gundam: 08th MS Team
Ms Gundam: War in the Pocket
Samurai Champloo
Death Note
Code Geass
Do I have to keep going, Blanko? You satisfied? I'm interested in your witty retort to this baited answer.
I thought FMA:B was a pretty good dub as well.
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ITT: Anime fans prove they are just as capable as real people when it comes to nuanced and intelligent discussion.
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Yes, dubs do butcher stories. And if they don't then they look retarded cause they don't fit the mouth movements at all. But it's one or the other.
Why? This happens in native-English cartoons as well. It's just something that you have to deal with when you're watching something that's animated. Japanese dubs don't even go along with mouth movements all the time. Your point is moot.
List of good English dubs (imo, subjective remember?):
Cowboy Bebop
Hetalia
Monster
Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust
FLCL
Ghost in the Shell
Every Studio Ghibli
MS Gundam: 08th MS Team
Ms Gundam: War in the Pocket
Samurai Champloo
Death Note
Code Geass
Do I have to keep going, Blanko? You satisfied? I'm interested in your witty retort to this baited answer.
I just asked for one, but thanks for putting in the extra effort. I just wanted some context for this conversation. I'll let you go back to your sub-par Rushing now.
I am not surprised Blanko takes the hipster weeaboo stance on this one.
Joke's on you, I think anime is shit.
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i hav bin troled
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Just about. I don't sit so close to my screen that, when reading subtitles, I can't see the rest of the screen as well. You shouldn't do that, it's silly. And, I don't know if you guys are amazingly slow readers or if I'm just fast, but all I need to do is glance at them then go back to watching. During that glance, however, I still see the show.
Sure, but you don't process it as efficiently as the dub master race. I'd argue that you haven't even watched an anime if you watched it subbed. That's how much you're missing.
I don't know why I thought you might not just be trying to be Rushy.
Dissenting opinion = Rushy
Ok
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Just about. I don't sit so close to my screen that, when reading subtitles, I can't see the rest of the screen as well. You shouldn't do that, it's silly. And, I don't know if you guys are amazingly slow readers or if I'm just fast, but all I need to do is glance at them then go back to watching. During that glance, however, I still see the show.
Sure, but you don't process it as efficiently as the dub master race. I'd argue that you haven't even watched an anime if you watched it subbed. That's how much you're missing.
I don't know why I thought you might not just be trying to be Rushy.
Dissenting opinion = Rushy
Ok
No, that's not it.
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I thought FMA:B was a pretty good dub as well.
I agree. I will add it to the list. I was just typing up some randoms that I had remembered off the top of my head. So I'm sure I missed several good dubs.
No, that's not it.
Oh, then it's because you're wrong?
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No, that's not it.
Oh, then it's because you're wrong?
It'd take hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance to say just that and not know what the actual answer is.
I know you want to be the master trole, but I'm sorry, you just don't have the talent Rushy has.
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No, that's not it.
Oh, then it's because you're wrong?
It'd take hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance to say just that and not know what the actual answer is.
I know you want to be the master trole, but I'm sorry, you just don't have the talent Rushy has.
Omg. could it be possible that someone actually likes dubs more than subs?!
short answer: yes
quit being a try hard. you're supposed to be a moderator, not a shit-poster.
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Omg. could it be possible that someone actually likes dubs more than subs?!
short answer: yes
This is an acceptable opinion.
"But zomg you're missing so much of the show with subs!" Is a stupid claim.
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No, that's not it.
Oh, then it's because you're wrong?
It'd take hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance to say just that and not know what the actual answer is.
I know you want to be the master trole, but I'm sorry, you just don't have the talent Rushy has.
Omg. could it be possible that someone actually likes dubs more than subs?!
short answer: yes
quit being a try hard. you're supposed to be a moderator, not a shit-poster.
Alright, sorry to have bothered you. I didn't realize bringing up something that's obvious to everyone else is so touchy to you.
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Well if we're being honest here, then I have a confession to make. I watch everything with subtitles, including anime. I still prefer dubbed English over a language I don't understand though.
No, that's not it.
Oh, then it's because you're wrong?
It'd take hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance to say just that and not know what the actual answer is.
I know you want to be the master trole, but I'm sorry, you just don't have the talent Rushy has.
Omg. could it be possible that someone actually likes dubs more than subs?!
short answer: yes
quit being a try hard. you're supposed to be a moderator, not a shit-poster.
Alright, sorry to have bothered you. I didn't realize bringing up something that's obvious to everyone else is so touchy to you.
Hey. Shut up.
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Okay, name one good English dub.
Cowboy Bepop.
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I'm sorry I ever brought this up.
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I'm in the market for a new series to watch, any suggestions?
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What stuff do you like, Vauxy?
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Personally, I feel that subtitles are superior to dubbing. Discuss.
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Personally, I feel that subtitles are superior to dubbing. Discuss.
No.
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I am a wily troll.
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But no one was being troll'd.
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What stuff do you like, Vauxy?
Well, my favorite series is Rurouni Kenshin, with the original Gundam following at a close second. I like the historical genre, but I haven't found many good ones. I'm also a big fan of the Ghost in the Shell series, and a few other Sci-Fi anime like Dimension Fortress Macross, Space Pirate Captain Harlock, and most of the Gundam series.
I'm not a fan of overly-serious anime, like Evangelion & Monster. Although I did like parts of Monster, but it dragged on too long in my opinion.
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What stuff do you like, Vauxy?
Well, my favorite series is Rurouni Kenshin, with the original Gundam following at a close second. I like the historical genre, but I haven't found many good ones. I'm also a big fan of the Ghost in the Shell series, and a few other Sci-Fi anime like Dimension Fortress Macross, Space Pirate Captain Harlock, and most of the Gundam series.
I'm not a fan of overly-serious anime, like Evangelion & Monster. Although I did like parts of Monster, but it dragged on too long in my opinion.
I love Monster. I thought it was going to be too long at over 70 episodes, but the story was interesting enough that I would watch ten episodes in what felt like the space of one.
Anyway, you've probably seen it already, but I have a feeling The Big O will be right up your alley. It's one of my favourites and pretty hard to describe, but a cheap way of putting it would be "film noir with giant robots", if you watch (or have watched) it you'll see what I mean when I say there's so much more to it than that.
As for historical anime, I was really impressed by Le Chevalier d'Éon, which does have some problems but is overall highly entertaining and full of insane plot twists. The visuals are great and really do a fantastic job of capturing the period setting. While it isn't overly serious (it has to be said it definitely isn't a comedy) it does like to go for over-the-top theatrics.
Apart from that, you might like Last Exile. It's a fairly light hearted quasi sci-fi/fantasy adventure with likeable characters, an interesting setting, and some seriously cool airships. I don't know if you're a sucker for airships like I am, but some of the designs in this show are awesome. Some of the CGI is kind of intrusive, but I found it fairly easy to ignore as the story rips along at a good pace.
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I really liked Last Exile.
I stumbled on it through Netflix. It wasn't an anime I'd typically watch but I liked the airships and world.
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I'll check out Last Exile and The Big O. I've seen a few episodes of the latter when it was on Adult Swim (or maybe Toonami?), and I enjoyed it. The main character reminded me a bit too much of Bruce Wayne, which I feel like was done on purpose.
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I'll check out Last Exile and The Big O. I've seen a few episodes of the latter when it was on Adult Swim (or maybe Toonami?), and I enjoyed it. The main character reminded me a bit too much of Bruce Wayne, which I feel like was done on purpose.
Some people do describe it as Giant Robo meets Batman: The Animated Series, and while it's obviously inspired to some degree by both (not to mention, some of the people who worked on the Giant Robo OVA also worked on Big O), I think it's kind of unfair to reduce it to merely being the sum of its influences. I'm glad you're interested in checking it out though, it's a great series.
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I feel obligated to post about Ninja Scroll.
I think I watched Spirited Away once and maybe, like, Yugioh, or something, but other than that, I've never exposed myself to anime. I quite enjoyed Ninja Scroll, though. The story was ok, decent enough that I could keep watching, but basically, I just like the fight scenes and the vast range of characters. I think that animated characters allow for personality and characterization that are, most of the time, nearly impossible to reach with live action.
I could definitely watch more. If anybody has suggestions, shoot. Think action oriented, crazy villains, many characters, etc.
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I feel obligated to post about Ninja Scroll.
I think I watched Spirited Away once and maybe, like, Yugioh, or something, but other than that, I've never exposed myself to anime. I quite enjoyed Ninja Scroll, though. The story was ok, decent enough that I could keep watching, but basically, I just like the fight scenes and the vast range of characters. I think that animated characters allow for personality and characterization that are, most of the time, nearly impossible to reach with live action.
I could definitely watch more. If anybody has suggestions, shoot. Think action oriented, crazy villains, many characters, etc.
Yes! Ninja Scroll is great. I hope you weren't looking for something PG-rated when you asked for suggestions, because a lot of people seem to be put-off by the nude rape/sex scenes. Atleast the rapists get what they deserve in the film.
I don't know what it is about Ninja Scroll, but there's something magical about it. It's partly the fight scenes, and the main character Jubei is just too cool for school. My favorite scenes are the blind samurai fight, and the underwater battle with Jubei and the Bee Man.
If you're interested in more anime films, then I'd suggest Princess Mononoke. It's kind of long, but it's worth it. It's a Studio Ghibli film (Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle) but it doesn't really feel like a Ghibli film. There's also a few great fight scenes, which is partly why it doesn't feel like a Ghibli film. Including some ace scenes where the protag headshots people with arrows (in some cases lobbing their heads off in the process).
I'd say Princess Mononoke is their best film, but some would disagree with me.
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I've heard of that before, maybe I'll watch that tonight.
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I feel obligated to post about Ninja Scroll.
I think I watched Spirited Away once and maybe, like, Yugioh, or something, but other than that, I've never exposed myself to anime. I quite enjoyed Ninja Scroll, though. The story was ok, decent enough that I could keep watching, but basically, I just like the fight scenes and the vast range of characters. I think that animated characters allow for personality and characterization that are, most of the time, nearly impossible to reach with live action.
I could definitely watch more. If anybody has suggestions, shoot. Think action oriented, crazy villains, many characters, etc.
Ninja Scroll is great fun, a little dated now but that just adds to the charm for me. Since Vauxy already recommended some features, I'll go for series. First of all, I wholeheartedly recommend the fairly recent Hellsing Ultimate OVA, which has pretty much everything you're looking for. Aside from that, and in a generally more PG (at least in terms of violence) vein, check out Cowboy Bebop, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Black Lagoon and Trigun.
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Gees, when people said Big O is Batman with mechs, they really weren't kidding.
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I started watching Kill la Kill on a whim. Netflix. Subbed. It's actually very entertaining, although there is
some a lot of fanservice sprinkled about every episode. Usually fanservice turns me off from an anime, but somehow it doesn't bother me here. It's basically a "more power!" shonen-inspired battle anime where a young girl avenges the death of her father by battling an entire school of super powered baddies. The school is run in a Nazi-like fashion. The pacing of the show is excellent. There is barely any filler whatsoever. Every episode mixes cliche anime tropes together in a very comedic way, which is one of the reasons it's so fun to watch. The art style is also great for gawking at.
Overall, very good anime. Would recommend with highest honors.
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The weeaboo relaxation.
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The weeaboo relaxation.
( ︶︿︶)_╭∩╮
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About halfway through Sword Art Online and the show isn't even about Sword Art Online anymore, it's about some other dumb game where you don't die in real life if you die in the game. How droll. Other than that, great show with an obnoxious amount of, for lack of a better term, fan service. The show would be absolutely superb if it didn't have meaningless boob and panty shots mixed in for no reason other than to just be there. I get it if its supposed to be a romantic scene, but it is 99% of the time not that.
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Are you gay or something?
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Are you gay or something?
I don't know, are gays the people who aren't turned on by 12 year olds in their panties? I must be one.
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12 year olds
Do you have any proof to backup your outlandish claims?
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A lot of the female characters are younger than the protagonist who happens to only be 16 or 15.
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As far as I know there is only one female in the show that is actually older in than the protagonist and she is (funnily enough) the one I remember getting little or no such fan service. I feel like the Japanese have a really weird obsession with very young girls (or at least girls who appear very young) and have the same monolithic personality.
In fact, the only girl in the show that is both older and more mature is the one the protagonist wants to get with, opposed to all of the young monolithic stereotype girls. Now that I think about it, maybe that has some sort of deeper story meaning.
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Yep. That's how I remember it as well. When they move on to the faerie game she gets a weird tentacle fan service.
But the Japanese definitely have a young girl fetish. To be fair, I think a lot of men do which explains so many pedophiles.
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Possibly my favorite pedobear image.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/dw8ga8.jpg)
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Anyway the quality level of the show really dropped when it got to the fairy thing. It feels like the story of the original Sword Art Online game should have been dragged out a bit more. The drama of people fighting in the game for their lives was actually interesting; but in the fairy game death is just like a real MMO, that is, death is just a minor annoyance. It creates a noticeably less tense environment even though the protagonist seems to still give off the vibe that he is fighting for his life (which makes sense) but it clashes with the actual fact that it really is just a game again.
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What I don't get is why the theme of high school romance is so popular in Japanese animation.
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What I don't get is why the theme of high school romance is so popular in Japanese animation.
That's like saying you don't get why Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network shows always involve middle and high school students.
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I hated the sister thing too. Every single female who comes into protagonists life falls in love with him. That gets so boring.
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Anyway the quality level of the show really dropped when it got to the fairy thing. It feels like the story of the original Sword Art Online game should have been dragged out a bit more. The drama of people fighting in the game for their lives was actually interesting; but in the fairy game death is just like a real MMO, that is, death is just a minor annoyance. It creates a noticeably less tense environment even though the protagonist seems to still give off the vibe that he is fighting for his life (which makes sense) but it clashes with the actual fact that it really is just a game again.
Watch sword art online 2. It goes back up. More death (real death) less fan service.
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Watch sword art online 2. It goes back up. More death (real death) less fan service.
My google-fu has indicated there is no dubbed version of season 2, so I will have to wait.
I hated the sister thing too. Every single female who comes into protagonists life falls in love with him. That gets so boring.
It allows me to better empathize with the protagonist because I have a similar problem.
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Sword Art Online isn't very good.
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Sword Art Online isn't very good.
It'd definitely be a lot better without the incest and pedophilia.
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Even incest and pedophilia would be tolerable if there was some characterisation. Actually maybe not, Eva sucked too.
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Record of Lodoss War