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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« Last post by Lord Dave on Today at 05:29:21 PM »Wait... So you're bragging that Trump is less wealthy than he was in March?
A statement made by some random contributor to this forum does not constitute evidence.Yes. The evidence is that if the sun is a few thousand miles above a flat earth then you would have a clear line of sight to it at all time.The sun can't set on a FE where the sun is above the plane of the earth at all times.Do you have evidence to back up this outright lie?
What would stop you seeing it?
Just another baseless statement based on your inability to envision alternate and, certainly possible, modes of operation.
It would also change significantly in angular size, angular speed and luminosity throughout the day as your distance to it varies. None of that happens.
All that is in the context of the mainstream physics. You may have other mechanisms to explain this - EA, some magnification effect and I'm not sure about the luminosity one - the sun does admittedly change at sunset, but not during most of the day as it surely would if the sun was at a significantly different distance."Mainstream physics"...joyfully uttered by most typical RE-zealots who visit this forum, as if they have any sort of grasp as to meaning.
As I said, EA is a reasonable explanation. It's better than "perspective" which makes no sense at all. But it is at best a hypothesis, not a well formed theory.
Yes. The evidence is that if the sun is a few thousand miles above a flat earth then you would have a clear line of sight to it at all time. What would stop you seeing it? It would also change significantly in angular size, angular speed and luminosity throughout the day as your distance to it varies. None of that happens.The sun can't set on a FE where the sun is above the plane of the earth at all times.Do you have evidence to back up this outright lie?
The sun can't set on a FE where the sun is above the plane of the earth at all times.Do you have evidence to back up this outright lie?
Rowbotham's original society solved the sinking ship.Did it, though? He spends some time in ENaG claiming that things like ladies dresses disappear bottom first on a flat path, which they don't. And then he claims that ships which have gone over the horizon can be "restored", which they can't.
Lady Blount's society collected the professional surveyor and railway proofs.Did they? Well where are those then? I looked her up and found something about some photo they took. It's here:
If you ask me what is happening on earth thousands of miles away, there will be less research there. The total world model is a topic for the next generation of FE to figure out.Is it, though? There are flat earthers all around the...disc, right? And we have instant communications now.
"... faster winds in the south ....". Ah yes, we've been here before.
Amongst others at the moment, (now, 0912UTC on 2 May 2024) LAN-Chile has 2 Boeing 787 Dreamliners airborne over the South Pacific.
Reg CC-BGG is operating as LAN801 from Santiago to Auckland, a route planned as about 5300NM. The aircraft is just under halfway and estimates completing the journey with a flight time of 12 hours, giving an average ground speed of 440 kts.
Its sister ship, CC-BGH is operating as LAN804 from Melbourne to Santiago, a route planned as about 6200NM. The aircraft is about halfway and estimates completing the journey with a flight time also of 12 hours, giving an average ground speed of 520 kts.
Taking the average of the westbound and eastbound flights, 480 kts, would suggest an westerly wind component of 40 kts acting as a headwind hampering LAN801 and assisting LAN804. Wikipedia lists the cruising speed of a Dreamliner as 488 to 516 kts.
As the captains of both aircraft would not have departed unless they were sure of the distance and fuel needed, I would suggest that calculating the distance from South America to Australasia has been calculated in considerably less than "20 to 30 years", and that the windspeeds are well understood.