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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 14, 2025, 08:03:41 PM »

I think Tom's interpretation is fair.

And how do you think Tom would have interpreted it had Biden said it?
And this is the issue with Tom and the MAGA lot in general. The ones deep in the cult don't care what happens or what is said, they only care who did it. If it's Trump or Vance or one of the other MAGA then it's ThisIsFine.jpg, no matter how egregious what is said or done is. If it's Biden or any other Democrat then it's interpreted in the most unkind and malicious way possible.
It's a level of delusion and intellectual dishonestly which makes debate impossible.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 14, 2025, 08:24:42 AM »

So... "Trump fought in WW2 and was very helpful in securing it." - is something you'd understand as USA?

He'll understand it whatever way his cult leader tells him to.
Imagine being an "independent thinker" and having such a slavish devotion to a narcissist's whims.
I like to think Tom is just trolling but I have a feeling he really is this much of a sheep.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 13, 2025, 05:32:47 PM »

"I talked to Putin. He lost 51 million people (in WWII) and he did fight… He fought with us in World War II and everybody hates him.”
- Trump

Is that the Putin who was born in 1952?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 12, 2025, 03:29:36 PM »

When the famous billionaire owner is coming from out of town and appears in front of the building with his limo, obviously everyone will know about it.

Of course people would have known he was there, that doesn't mean they would have expected him to come barging in to their dressing room while they were getting changed.

It appears to me that you are repeating liberal falsities.

I'm repeating Trump:

“You know they’re standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”

What's there to "get away with" if that's OK?

Obviously your tactic to keep defending the perversions of your cult leader is deny, deny, deny. Whatever helps you cope I guess.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 07, 2025, 09:39:08 AM »

Actually they were once friends, but Trump banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago for being a pedophile.

Why would he have done that? Trump loves that sort of thing

Four women who competed in the 1997 Miss Teen USA beauty pageant also said the Republican used to walk in. Some of the girls were as young as 15.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-former-miss-arizona-tasha-dixon-naked-undressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html#

Trump has openly boasted about doing this and sexually assaulting women. He has been adjudicated as a rapist.

The lengths you have to go to in order to defend him are increasingly desperate

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 06, 2025, 01:53:09 PM »

"Trump considering selling his Tesla and not interested in talking to Musk yet after public row"

 

Apparently Trump also said that Musk is a poo poo pants and that he won't be inviting him to his birthday party.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 05, 2025, 09:06:55 PM »

Well who could have seen this coming?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-elon-musk-disappointed-fallout-b2764620.html

Apart from everyone.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: June 04, 2025, 08:05:21 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2r108l785o

Wasn’t he going to sort this out “very easily” in a day?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 29, 2025, 05:50:37 AM »

Wah, wah, wah, waaah

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8xgdj9kyero

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 26, 2025, 11:05:26 AM »

Wasn’t he going to fix this in a day?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/trump-says-putin-has-gone-absolutely-crazy-considering-more-sanctions-russia-2025-05-26/

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 22, 2025, 07:18:11 AM »

ITT: RE adherents learn that mistakes are committed on a regular basis. RE adherents claim they should not happen.

This is literally nothing to do with RE.
Yes, mistakes happen. But evaluate them honestly and consistently, I don't think that's an unreasonable ask.
The issue with the MAGA lot is their reaction to events and evaluation of them is not based on what happened but who did it.
That is not an honest or consistent way of evaluating things.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 01:23:05 PM »

There was a correlation between stage 5 and a Gleason score of 9 as to how severe cancer is, so that little "gotcha moment," is a fucking nothingburger from RE as usual.

There is no stage 5 cancer either.

Don't confuse him with facts.

I have now seen the Tweet or whatever message it was (TruthSocial?) from Trump about it, which was appropriately sympathetic and, whisper it quietly, even presidential. It's just a shame when asked about it he couldn't help himself making it about him and how he's aceing cognitive tests and going on about Biden's cognitive decline - which is undeniable, but not really the time or the place.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 11:00:42 AM »

It's a cancer grading system, which means it can be called a stage. Minimal research would have saved you the effort of being wrong again:

I think it's pretty clear Trump mixed up the stage of cancer with the Gleason score, but I can agree that even if he did and misspoke somewhat, it's not a "calling Zelensky Putin" level mix-up.

So moving on, what do you make of Trump being asked about Biden and immediately changing the subject to how good his own health was and then going on about Biden's cognitive decline?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 10:23:22 AM »

Trump is correct in both his choice of terminology

Nope. He said "stage 9".
Twice.
The word "stage" doesn't even appear on the web page you linked to. Whoopsie!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 21, 2025, 05:43:55 AM »

He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.

Then why haven't you expressed your sympathies or sadness like a normal person would do in the two posts you've made about this now?

So you agree that Trump’s comments are indefensible and are reduced to changing the subject and a weak attempt at whataboutism.
Good to know.

I’m not the POTUS and haven’t been asked for comment. Trump has. So let me try again. What do you think of Trump’s comments? And do you agree that his repeated use of the phrase “stage 9” demonstrates his own cognitive decline? Which is ironic when being given the opportunity to express sympathy for another human he instead switches to boasting about his own health.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 20, 2025, 09:13:05 PM »

What the utter fuck is he talking about?



Twice he says Biden has "stage 9" cancer, which isn't a thing, while saying how well he'd done on his cognitive tests.
The rest is an utter ramble. He does briefly say it's "sad" but any normal human would have leant more heavily on that than all the other stuff he's rambling on about.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: President Joe Biden

« on: May 18, 2025, 08:48:31 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwywqg7lq1zo

Biden diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 16, 2025, 08:35:59 AM »

Your argument assumes that every gift received by Trump as president comes with an expectation of future favors, but this view oversimplifies the dynamics of gift-giving in diplomacy and politics. Gifts from foreign governments or corporations are often ceremonial

Oh it's a ceremonial $400m plane. OK, champ. Nothing to see here then.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 14, 2025, 03:24:15 PM »

"Trump announces deals with Qatar after praising 'tough, attractive' Syrian president"

lol

nohomo.
What a weird thing to say.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump

« on: May 14, 2025, 11:40:22 AM »

Tom. Hey! I'm not in a cult! Stop saying that MAGA is a cult!
Also Tom...

Why would he keep it when it can be a main feature of a major tourist destination dedicated to the Trump Presidency and further immortalize him?

All Hail Our Supreme Leader, May His Name Live On Forever!! #notacult