The Flat Earth Society
Other Discussion Boards => Arts & Entertainment => Topic started by: juner on November 26, 2014, 05:48:38 PM
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Since my IRC chat with Saddam wasn't helpful, I am going to ask here. Come Christmas time, I am going to have a few days off without traveling plans. This will be the first down time I have had in a very long time and I want to power through a video game. I haven't been in the game in years. I stopped gaming around 2008, and came back for FF 13 (sadly), and the most recent thing I have played through was AC3. I have about 4 days to get the job done. I am primarily a consolefag as Saddam pointed out, but if it was worth it I would go PC since my PC is more than capable of playing anything currently available. Saddam suggested Morrowind repeatedly, which isn't happening.
So I am turning to the gamers of FES for a recommendation on either PS3 or PC. Don't let me down.
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What kind of genres do you like and what consoles do you have?
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Have you played The Last of Us? Definitely a great PS3 game, came out quite a long time ago too, should be pretty cheap on the PS3.
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What kind of genres do you like and what consoles do you have?
RPG, adventure, FPS (if it isn't too generic). Only PS3 at the moment, plus my PC.
Have you played The Last of Us? Definitely a great PS3 game, came out quite a long time ago too, should be pretty cheap on the PS3.
I actually have it. I got a PS3 basically for free last summer with Heavy Rain and The Last of Us. I played HR for a few hours but then had to get back to life. Haven't even opened The Last of Us.
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Saddam suggested Morrowind repeatedly, which isn't happening.
Why?
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Why not start up Dragon Age?
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1. Morrowind repeatedly
2. Battletoads
3. Elite: Dangerous
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Saddam suggested Morrowind repeatedly, which isn't happening.
Why?
Limited time.
Why not start up Dragon Age?
I don't know. Is that your recommendation?
1. Morrowind repeatedly
2. Battletoads
3. Elite: Dangerous
Thank you for the input. Of those, I will take a look at Elite I think.
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Haven't even opened The Last of Us.
>Asks for game suggestions
>Hasn't played games he actually has
okay weirdo.
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Psychonauts
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Haven't even opened The Last of Us.
>Asks for game suggestions
>Hasn't played games he actually has
okay weirdo.
I got the system on a whim, for free. Had a few hours to kill and haven't been able to play since. Between work, classes, and family obligations I haven't had time. I read good things about the game, but this will be basically my one chance for a long time. Have to make it count, and I value your opinions.
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Psychonauts
Looks interesting, that will get some consideration.
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Have you played Portal/Portal 2?
It won't take 4 days, but it'll be fun!
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Have you played The Last of Us? Definitely a great PS3 game, came out quite a long time ago too, should be pretty cheap on the PS3.
Terrible, just terrible.
RPG, adventure, FPS (if it isn't too generic). Only PS3 at the moment, plus my PC.
Have you played Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning? I've heard good things about it, but I've never played it myself. The sequels to Final Fantasy XIII are supposedly a lot better than the original, but I haven't played those either after the disaster that was FF13. There are several Dynasty Warriors games on Ps3 that are good for mindless fun, but if you're looking for anything deeper than that then avoid them. Ni No Kuni is a decent JRPG, but kind of childish and has very little challenge.
For shooters, Unreal Tournament for Ps3 is the best thing since Unreal 99... but I would just recommend playing Unreal 99 on PC instead.
Generic answer would be: Uncharted, CoD Modarn Ware, GTAV, Destiny, Far Cry 4
Ps3 really doesn't have many good games. Get a Wii U or a 3DS.
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Have you played Portal/Portal 2?
It won't take 4 days, but it'll be fun!
Yeah, I played portal toward the end of my Steam days.
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Shining Force
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Okami on the Playstation Store is great also. HD upgrade, looks great and plays great too.
Edit: you play as a wolf, and you can pee on people and bite people in the ass.
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Kingdom Hearts
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Okami on the Playstation Store is great also. HD upgrade, looks great and plays great too.
Edit: you play as a wolf, and you can pee on people and bite people in the ass.
I saw that back when it was on PS2, but never played it. I will give it a look.
Kingdom Hearts
Played it. Wrecked it. Good times.
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Kingdom Hearts
Terrible game. Literally the worst.
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Kingdom Hearts
Terrible game. Literally the worst.
Take your love affair somewhere else.
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Dark Souls
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Dark Souls
Based on the FES thread about Dark Souls, it seems only masochists play it.
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Kingdom Hearts
Terrible game. Literally the worst.
omg you're precious. <3
Take your love affair somewhere else.
sorry :-[
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Dark Souls
Based on the FES thread about Dark Souls, it seems only masochists play it.
It's actually really easy if you don't die.
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Europa Universalis IV
best game 21st century
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I've got a spare 512GB SSD I am going to put into the PS3 tonight. I am traveling for Thanksgiving so I won't be able to get much gaming in until Christmas, but I've got the itch now.
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Europa Universalis IV
best game 21st century
Ehhh... I haven't been a stratfag since Herzog Zwei.
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Have you played any of the Metal Gear Solid games? There's a HD collection with MGS2, 3, and Peace Walker. There's also Metal Gear Solid 4. All great games.
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Have you played any of the Metal Gear Solid games? There's a HD collection with MGS2, 3, and Peace Walker. There's also Metal Gear Solid 4. All great games.
I've played 1, 2, and 3. 4 looks interesting so I will add that to the list.
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Have fun watching the over 8 hours of cinematics and trying to understand that trainwreck of a story.
In any case the game itself is fun.
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Europa Universalis IV
best game 21st century
Ehhh... I haven't been a stratfag since Herzog Zwei.
Just do it. If you manage to get past the crazy learning curve, you'll have endless fun.
ENDLESS FUN.
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I am looking at the Playstation store and the HD remake of Shadow of the Colossus looks pretty awesome. I played the original so I will have to save a replay for later.
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Europa Universalis IV
best game 21st century
Ehhh... I haven't been a stratfag since Herzog Zwei.
Just do it. If you manage to get past the crazy learning curve, you'll have endless fun.
ENDLESS FUN.
I don't have time for endless fun :(
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I should have also mentioned that I am horrible at making choices when given too many good options. This thread may have been a terrible idea. I will spend all my free time trying to choose and then end up not having time to play.
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I am looking at the Playstation store and the HD remake of Shadow of the Colossus looks pretty awesome. I played the original so I will have to save a replay for later.
I have the HD collection with that game as well. It's great. Ico... not so much. That was the first time I've played it, and it has since become one of my favorites. I recommend it if you haven't played it in a while. It's relatively short too.
Have fun watching the over 8 hours of cinematics and trying to understand that trainwreck of a story.
In any case the game itself is fun.
MGS 3 is the best one, imo. But 4 isn't too bad.
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Pain Killer.
It's simple fun.
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Pain Killer.
It's simple fun.
Already rekt it.
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Wolfenstein: The New Order
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Super Mario World
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Super Mario World
Not sure I've heard of this one. Can you explain the premise?
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Not sure I've heard of this one. Can you explain the premise?
The game centers on the quest of Mario and Luigi to save Dinosaur Land from Bowser, the series' antagonist. The two brothers must travel across seven worlds to restore order to Dinosaur Land. It built on the gameplay of previous Mario games by introducing new power-ups that augment character abilities, and established conventions that were carried over to future games in the series. Super Mario World marks the first appearance of Yoshi, Mario's dinosaur sidekick and riding mount.
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Not sure I've heard of this one. Can you explain the premise?
The game centers on the quest of Mario and Luigi to save Dinosaur Land from Bowser, the series' antagonist. The two brothers must travel across seven worlds to restore order to Dinosaur Land. It built on the gameplay of previous Mario games by introducing new power-ups that augment character abilities, and established conventions that were carried over to future games in the series. Super Mario World marks the first appearance of Yoshi, Mario's dinosaur sidekick and riding mount.
Plagiarist.
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It's actually a deep metaphor for the dangers of drug abuse.
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It's actually a deep metaphor for the dangers of drug abuse.
Believe me, I know. I used to watch the Super Mario Bros. Super Show...
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Got the SSD installed and the PS3 up and running. Time to screw around for a bit.
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Got the SSD installed and the PS3 up and running. Time to screw around for a bit.
Have you decided?
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Got the SSD installed and the PS3 up and running. Time to screw around for a bit.
Have you decided?
Not yet. Just going to check out the store and see if there anything interesting. Don't have a ton of time to play through anything, that will have to wait until next month.
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Nintendo consoles/games lend themselves very well to casual on the go play. Super Smash Bros just came out for the WiiU, and so did a remake of the old Ruby and Sapphire Pokémon games. They also put out a new 3DS recently.
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Nintendo consoles/games lend themselves very well to casual on the go play. Super Smash Bros just came out for the WiiU, and so did a remake of the old Ruby and Sapphire Pokémon games. They also put out a new 3DS recently.
Is the New New New New 3DS out in the prison colony already?
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I think so. Looked like EB games had it outside when I walked past.
SSB isn't out yet, comes out tomorrow. Fuckin' Australia. Local retailers have it for $64 though so I'm happy about that.
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I think so. Looked like EB games had it outside when I walked past.
SSB isn't out yet, comes out tomorrow. Fuckin' Australia. Local retailers have it for $64 though so I'm happy about that.
At least we got Smash WiiU before you freakos.
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I'll still wreck you m8
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Wbu the apt did Aussieland get the New 3DS so far ahead of us?
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Wbu the apt did Aussieland get the New 3DS so far ahead of us?
nice
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wow
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SSB online is shit even with my WhizzBang connection. GG Nintendo.
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SSB online is shit even with my WhizzBang connection. GG Nintendo.
For WiiU? The 3DS version had pretty shit online too, but still considerably better than Brawl's.
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The format is fine, it's the way networking works. I can be matched with Europeans which gives me 400 ping matches
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The format is fine, it's the way networking works. I can be matched with Europeans which gives me 400 ping matches
There's no option to select opponents in your area? Wow
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Not that I've found. It's also entirely possible I'm playing with Australians with really shit net.
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You should buy Star Citizen.
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As I mentioned in the Wii U thread, I picked one up this past weekend and some games. I am now taking real vacation around the Christmas and will have 11 consecutive days off. Turns out that I will be doing some traveling, but have plenty of gaming options to keep me busy on the other days.
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Have you played Portal/Portal 2?
It won't take 4 days, but it'll be fun!
Yeah, I played portal toward the end of my Steam days.
Do you not use Steam anymore?
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Junker is too old for video games.
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Junker is too old for video games.
It does happen, though. Sometimes the desire to play games (and the actual enjoyment of the game) fades, usually because as people get older they have more income, and more income means they can do things that don't involve sitting at the computer. Video games are mainly popular for kids because kids don't have much else more interesting to do.
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Junker is too old for video games.
It does happen, though. Sometimes the desire to play games (and the actual enjoyment of the game) fades, usually because as people get older they have more income, and more income means they can do things that don't involve sitting at the computer. Video games are mainly popular for kids because kids don't have much else more interesting to do.
Lol rushy.
*takes notes*
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Do you not use Steam anymore?
It has been a very long time.
Junker is too old for video games.
Yeah :(
It does happen, though. Sometimes the desire to play games (and the actual enjoyment of the game) fades, usually because as people get older they have more income, and more income means they can do things that don't involve sitting at the computer. Video games are mainly popular for kids because kids don't have much else more interesting to do.
This definitely happened. I do get the itch every now and then. I usually binge play a few games and that gets me through for a while. I am still a kid at heart.
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For me, it's not necessarily that I have all this money to spend on better things. I just have too much to do. When I'm done doing responsible adult things, I just want to drink and watch tv.
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rooster is a lush.
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For me, it's not necessarily that I have all this money to spend on better things. I just have too much to do. When I'm done doing responsible adult things, I just want to drink and watch tv.
For me video games is used to fill the TV void. I don't pay for TV, and even if I did, I wouldn't watch it. I just can't seem to sit and watch shows.
This definitely happened. I do get the itch every now and then. I usually binge play a few games and that gets me through for a while. I am still a kid at heart.
I'm also guessing the genre of game you enjoy changed a lot, too. I know it did for me. In high school call of duty was the game of choice for me and friends all the time, but now I don't even bother. I play maybe two hours of Battlefield 4 a month.
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You should play Arma like an adult.
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You should play Arma like an adult.
Arma is like Eve Online; obnoxiously complex just for the sake of complexity without any real attempt at easing user interaction. I'm glad I bought into the alpha for like $30, because $60 is too much for that game.
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I'm also guessing the genre of game you enjoy changed a lot, too. I know it did for me. In high school call of duty was the game of choice for me and friends all the time, but now I don't even bother. I play maybe two hours of Battlefield 4 a month.
That's the same genre, Rushy.
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That's the same genre, Rushy.
And? I play other genre's a shitload more than FPS now, while it used to be my favorite. I used me playing only 2 hours a month (if that) as supporting evidence that I don't play that genre much anymore.
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You should play Arma like an adult.
Arma is like Eve Online; obnoxiously complex just for the sake of complexity without any real attempt at easing user interaction. I'm glad I bought into the alpha for like $30, because $60 is too much for that game.
If you're talking about Arma II then I would partially agree, but Arma III is much smoother and user friendly.
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You should play Arma like an adult.
Arma is like Eve Online; obnoxiously complex just for the sake of complexity without any real attempt at easing user interaction. I'm glad I bought into the alpha for like $30, because $60 is too much for that game.
It's not like that at all. Arma can be as arcadey or hardcore as you want. Wasteland servers are there for those who want a clunkier and larger scale Battlefield game. ACE/ACRE is there for those who want to pretend they're in the military. DayZ is there for people still nostalgic over a 2 year walking simulator. There's a whole slew of mods that do all sorts of things.
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Regardless, I have like 2 hours on Arma because as I was explaining earlier, I have trouble having fun playing FPS games now. E:D will have to tide me over until SC is released, it is also coincidentally why I am always pissed that E:D isn't good enough yet to properly fill that role.
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While we're recommending games, this one isn't bad:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS2XRIC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d25_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-6&pf_rd_r=070AFKH27V34FHESN5CW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970566782&pf_rd_i=desktop
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While we're recommending games, this one isn't bad:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS2XRIC/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d25_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-6&pf_rd_r=070AFKH27V34FHESN5CW&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=1970566782&pf_rd_i=desktop
What is the appeal of Kingdom Hearts for you?
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What is the appeal of Kingdom Hearts for you?
It's a Final Fantasy game that has a pretty good story (barring the first game) and a combat/travel system that keeps gameplay interesting.
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What is the appeal of Kingdom Hearts for you?
What isn't the appeal to you? It's a Final Fantasy game that has a pretty good story (barring the first game) and a combat system that keeps gameplay interesting.
I like Kingdom Hearts. I was just wondering what you liked about it, since you don't really seem like the kind of person who would play that series. Book covers and whatnot. Shouldn't judge.
I wouldn't say it's one of my favorite series by any means, though. It's a bit too sappy at times, and the first game is still very lackluster. Kingdom Hearts 2 is infinitely better (except Roxas).
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I like Kingdom Hearts. I was just wondering what you liked about it, since you don't really seem like the kind of person who would play that series. Book covers and whatnot. Shouldn't judge.
I wouldn't say it's one of my favorite series by any means, though. It's a bit too sappy at times, and the first game is still very lackluster. Kingdom Hearts 2 is infinitely better (except Roxas).
It makes the majority of Final Fantasy games look like garbage, especially recent ones. When they release these remixes, it adds new content that I've never played before (and am very much interested in playing) as well as entire new games that I couldn't play because they were on the wrong platform.
Yeah, the game has Disney characters, but so what? Most of these Disney characters have stories and attitudes that can be taken more seriously than many FF characters anyway. Just play Final Fantasy 7 and try to tolerate Yuffie or Cait Sith for more than 5 seconds.
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I think the Final Fantasy series is better than Kingdom Hearts overall, but KH does have many points in its favor. The combat system is more accessible to jrpg newcomers, which I think is the main reason it's so popular (and maybe the Disney characters). The story, however, is completely throwaway in my opinion. I did enjoy some of the Disney characters and their zones, but things like the Little Mermaid zone are cringe worthy.
I can see how you'd think KH is better than FF7, but it would be ridiculous to make that claim about Final Fantasy 9 or 10. 10 being the best game in the series, in my opinion. The story is actually really well written and tackles some mature themes (killing God, for one). The battle system is classic turn-based, just simplified to perfection by making it way more accessible than 7 or 8. Sure, some of the characters like Tidus, Wakka, and Yuna are annoying, but that can be said about Sora and his little girlfriend as well.
Also, pick any game that came out before or after Final Fantasy 13 and I'll tell you 6 reasons why that game is better. You can't really compare KH to FF13 for this reason.
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The first one was actually my favorite. Everything past that got way too convoluted (like a typical JRPG).
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The first one was actually my favorite. Everything past that got way too convoluted (like a typical JRPG).
The story is only perceived as convoluted because it is spread out among different games at different timelines on different consoles (something I consider to be ruinous of the series). If you play the games or watch the cinematics in their proper order, the story is actually straight forward. Kid me liked the first one's story because it was generically Disney [save the princess and the world(s)!] Adult me likes the expanded story line a lot better.
Basically the only reason that Kingdom Hearts isn't immensely more popular is that it is made by crazy ass Japanese people.
I think the Final Fantasy series is better than Kingdom Hearts overall, but KH does have many points in its favor. The combat system is more accessible to jrpg newcomers, which I think is the main reason it's so popular (and maybe the Disney characters).
Well, yeah.
The story, however, is completely throwaway in my opinion.
You just throw this out there and don't say anything else. What a Saddam-move.
I did enjoy some of the Disney characters and their zones, but things like the Little Mermaid zone are cringe worthy.
That's probably why they made the Little Mermaid zones optional in both KH1 and KH2. Only a completionist is forced to play them, you don't even get anything good out of doing them other than the ability to say you did.
I can see how you'd think KH is better than FF7, but it would be ridiculous to make that claim about Final Fantasy 9 or 10. 10 being the best game in the series, in my opinion. The story is actually really well written and tackles some mature themes (killing God, for one). The battle system is classic turn-based, just simplified to perfection by making it way more accessible than 7 or 8. Sure, some of the characters like Tidus, Wakka, and Yuna are annoying, but that can be said about Sora and his little girlfriend as well.
I hate turn based games with a passion, so this is sort of lost on me.
Also, pick any game that came out before or after Final Fantasy 13 and I'll tell you 6 reasons why that game is better. You can't really compare KH to FF13 for this reason.
See above.
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Basically the only reason that Kingdom Hearts isn't immensely more popular is that it is made by crazy ass Japanese people.
I will totally agree with this.
Is there some nifty video out there that has all the cinematics in order? Cause you're right, I haven't played all the games since I don't own every single console.
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Basically the only reason that Kingdom Hearts isn't immensely more popular is that it is made by crazy ass Japanese people.
I will totally agree with this.
Is there some nifty video out there that has all the cinematics in order? Cause you're right, I haven't played all the games since I don't own every single console.
Unless Youtube now allows 100+ hour videos, I doubt it. I know all the available English cinematics are on the youtubes, you just have to search them out.
http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_%28series%29/Timeline
There's the timeline showing all the games in chronological story order.
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Thanks, bae. :-*
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The Kingdom Hearts series has about as much story depth as Disney World.
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The Kingdom Hearts series has about as much story depth as Disney World.
Deep as a kiddie pool, wide as an ocean.
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Thanks, bae. :-*
Alternatively, you could just check out this google doc (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8cPyvE2GTjOMzE4MTVlZTctMjE5Yi00YzAzLWJjZTAtZTllODY2OTc2MTMx/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) that attempts to make sense of the canon.
If you play the games or watch the cinematics in their proper order, the story is actually straight forward.
No, Rushy. Just no. Please peruse the doc I posted, then let me know if you still think KH's story is "actually straight forward". It is a pretty convoluted clusterfuck. It's way too complicated for a game about Disney characters fighting with Final Fantasy characters fighting against people who are actually other people inside other people pretending to be other people. Wait, nevermind.
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Yeah, I'm going to have to go back over it but the people who are other people who are the heartless forms of other people didn't make any sense to me.
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JRPGs are weird, not Japanese games in general. Japanese devs in general understand the philosophy behind level structure, enemy placement, game flow, pacing, what motivates the player and how to teach the player new concepts through game design better than Western devs do. See: Classic Castlevania, Megaman, or as a more recent example, the Souls games.
That being said, companies like Square who pay immense attention to their Mary Sue cardboard cutout characters and consider "character design" (and that's in terms of their visual design, not writing) to be the most important aspect in games, are terrible and misrepresent the virtuosity that does exist in Japanese game design. A lot of people say the Souls games "feel Western" or label them as WRPGs, but that's just because they don't pander to the otaku audience like Square does. The design philosophy in those games is very Japanese, and people seem to have forgotten what that means.
To put it another way, Square is a terrible company and JRPGs are terrible games. Stop playing them, or if you must play them, stop trying to analyze their stories. The devs obviously don't care about them, so you shouldn't either.
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No, Rushy. Just no. Please peruse the doc I posted, then let me know if you still think KH's story is "actually straight forward". It is a pretty convoluted clusterfuck. It's way too complicated for a game about Disney characters fighting with Final Fantasy characters fighting against people who are actually other people inside other people pretending to be other people. Wait, nevermind.
You're the kind of person that thought Inception was mind-blowingly complex.
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Alternatively, you could just check out this google doc (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8cPyvE2GTjOMzE4MTVlZTctMjE5Yi00YzAzLWJjZTAtZTllODY2OTc2MTMx/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) that attempts to make sense of the canon.
That was...actually pretty simple to follow. And I've only played the first two.
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I flip flop on Kingdom Hearts. I liked the first two games but I never liked the Nintendo handheld games.
I'm excited about 3 though. The game can get me in the feels even if I'm not 100% sure what's going on.
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I'm excited about 3 though. The game can get me in the feels even if I'm not 100% sure what's going on.
Watch the 358/2 days cinematics. The whole game will punch your feels repeatedly.
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Alternatively, you could just check out this google doc (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8cPyvE2GTjOMzE4MTVlZTctMjE5Yi00YzAzLWJjZTAtZTllODY2OTc2MTMx/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1) that attempts to make sense of the canon.
That was...actually pretty simple to follow. And I've only played the first two.
That's the point of the doc.
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But you pointed Rushy to it as proof that the game is a convoluted clusterfuck, when it really shows that it's a pretty easy to follow story
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But you pointed Rushy to it as proof that the game is a convoluted clusterfuck, when it really shows that it's a pretty easy to follow story
No I didn't. I was responding to rooster.
It's easy to follow when it's laid out for you in plain English and pictures, like a child's storybook. Most things are.
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No, Rushy. Just no. Please peruse the doc I posted, then let me know if you still think KH's story is "actually straight forward". It is a pretty convoluted clusterfuck.
Oh, you never said this?
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No I didn't.
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øk
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Wow.
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That's how it's done.
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You just got obliterated.
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No I didn't.
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øk
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Wow.
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Very constructive discussion. Well done, everyone.