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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 05:43:00 PM »
Trump is on the right track here.
lol. There’s a good cult member.
Trump loves people like you, you’re so easy to program. Literally doesn’t matter what he says.

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You guys should pay the amount you agreed to for protection. America shouldn't protect dead beats.
Well, that seems fairly reasonable.
But encourage?
The mental backflips you do to justify anything your cult leader says or does are ridiculous. You’d come across as more credible if you were more honest. You don’t believe America should actively encourage nations to attack NATO nations just because they haven’t paid.

The NATO expectations are very reasonable. Each country is expected to contribute 2% of GDP. An alliance is a two way street. You can't just take. If you are not contributing then you are putting everyone else in danger by using the alliance's infrastructure and resources to cover you. How is NATO supposed to protect everyone if they have multiple military bases and high tech infrastructure that they are maintaining in your territory that you are not paying for?

Wolf packs are known to drive out or kill the sick or injured members in their packs, and arguably rightly so. It slows them down and invites predators. None of what Trump said is detestable.
No, wolves do not do that.

Also, lacking an understanding of why NATO exists is not a shock. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 01:31:09 PM »
Oh no, they publicly displayed the DNC's very weird emails where you learned that the DNC was corrupt! Good thing you made sure to just get mad at Russia about it instead of trying to fix any corruption.

That's completely irrelevant and you know it. Putin did not target the DNC and release their emails out of a sense of altruism or opposition to corruption. He did it to pursue his own political agenda, one that happens to be deeply hostile to America and its interests. That's election interference. The fact that you personally don't care about it and don't think it should be a crime (something that you have in common with Trump) doesn't change the fact that it is a crime and it is something that this nation takes very seriously. Never mind the fact that if the DNC did not rig the primary tto begin with, there would have been nothing to disclose. "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!"
FTFY
I'm more interested in why thats something you think is bad?
By rigging it for Clinton, Trump was able to win.
The DNC intentionally made sure Trump would win!

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 12, 2024, 08:28:47 AM »
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He recalled that the leader of a "big country" had presented a hypothetical situation in which he was not meeting his financial obligations within Nato and had come under attack from Moscow.

Mr Trump said the leader had asked if the US would come to his country's aid in that scenario, which prompted him to issue a rebuke.

"I said: 'You didn't pay? You're delinquent?'... 'No I would not protect you, in fact I would encourage them to do whatever they want. You gotta pay.'"

Trump is on the right track here. You guys should pay the amount you agreed to for protection. America shouldn't protect dead beats.

Ah, the Mob mentality.  Good to know.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 11, 2024, 08:03:04 PM »
I'm starting to like Nikki Haley.
Apparently Trump made a jab about how her husband isn't with her on the camapign trail.  To which she replies:

“Michael is deployed serving our country, something you know nothing about. Someone who continually disrespects the sacrifices of military families has no business being commander in chief.”

I'd love to see those two on a debate stage.  She'd eat him alive.

Also, Trump's research team needs to step up their game cause they should have told him before he said it (if that was possible).

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 08, 2024, 11:10:26 AM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67649497

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-05/trump-house-gop-leaders-reject-senate-border-ukraine-aid-deal

They are not.
Holy shit, I think that all the news I read about BILLIONS IN AID to the Ukraine must have been FAKE NEWS!
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts#:~:text=The%20Joe%20Biden%20administration%20and,Economy%2C%20a%20German%20research%20institute.

Really... You're need to build strawmen needs to be controlled.  No where did I say the US sent no Aid.  I'm also referring to recent events. 
Like this one:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2023/12/06/ukraine-aid-in-peril-as-senate-republicans-walk-out-of-heated-briefing/

The last aid package to be passed was part of the overall 2023 budget and not a separate bill. 
Specifically:
H.R.2617 - Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023

Which had only 11 nay or not voting (all republicans).
So why are they against it now?
Strawmen? The claim was Republicans are for Putin.

Republicans are supporting Ukraine against Putin.

"Recent events..." LOL...
Then why hasn't a new aid bill passed already?  Surely it would have been easy back in December when the talks began, yes?
Why haven't you caught on there are no "Republicans"?
So your answer is to say that Republicans don't exist?  Oh dear... You're really out of touch.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 08, 2024, 05:03:27 AM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67649497

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-05/trump-house-gop-leaders-reject-senate-border-ukraine-aid-deal

They are not.
Holy shit, I think that all the news I read about BILLIONS IN AID to the Ukraine must have been FAKE NEWS!
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts#:~:text=The%20Joe%20Biden%20administration%20and,Economy%2C%20a%20German%20research%20institute.

Really... You're need to build strawmen needs to be controlled.  No where did I say the US sent no Aid.  I'm also referring to recent events. 
Like this one:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2023/12/06/ukraine-aid-in-peril-as-senate-republicans-walk-out-of-heated-briefing/

The last aid package to be passed was part of the overall 2023 budget and not a separate bill. 
Specifically:
H.R.2617 - Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023

Which had only 11 nay or not voting (all republicans).
So why are they against it now?
Strawmen? The claim was Republicans are for Putin.

Republicans are supporting Ukraine against Putin.

"Recent events..." LOL...
Then why hasn't a new aid bill passed already?  Surely it would have been easy back in December when the talks began, yes?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 07, 2024, 07:51:41 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67649497

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-05/trump-house-gop-leaders-reject-senate-border-ukraine-aid-deal

They are not.
Holy shit, I think that all the news I read about BILLIONS IN AID to the Ukraine must have been FAKE NEWS!
https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts#:~:text=The%20Joe%20Biden%20administration%20and,Economy%2C%20a%20German%20research%20institute.

Really... You're need to build strawmen needs to be controlled.  No where did I say the US sent no Aid.  I'm also referring to recent events. 
Like this one:

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/budget/2023/12/06/ukraine-aid-in-peril-as-senate-republicans-walk-out-of-heated-briefing/

The last aid package to be passed was part of the overall 2023 budget and not a separate bill. 
Specifically:
H.R.2617 - Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2023

Which had only 11 nay or not voting (all republicans).
So why are they against it now?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 07, 2024, 10:47:14 AM »

Not one bit of what you provided had to do with 2016.

What about the US Government that is interested in securing the US border?

Seems they are more interested in securing the borders of Ukraine (against Putin, by the way) and Israel.

Can you even see straight, given all the crapola you have spewed lately?

WEAK...Weak...

We had a deal to strengthen the border that everybody liked but your daddy Trump ordered his minions to kill it before they even read it.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/05/trump-maga-senate-border-deal-mcconnell

Trump wants to screw up this country and tell us that he is the cure.

You remind me of the frightened senior citizens living in Northern Minnesota stockpiling weapons to fight off waves Mexican immigrants sweeping through the countryside. They believe all the stupid shit they see on NewsMax and don't understand where the food in this country really comes from.

Dude, you were ten years old in 2016. You think Trump is securing the nation and it's borders? He couldn't even secure his own twitter account (hacked 3 times).
Dude, you think the Republicans are supporting Putin, yet are voting to spend billions in support of Ukraine in defense of their border against Putin.

You are very funny. Cannot even keep your own story straight.
Umm... They aren't doing that.  They are, very loudly, saying they won't unless Israel gets a bunch of money.  Or were.  Now they want to scrap everything because their god said so.
Umm...they are.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67649497

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-05/trump-house-gop-leaders-reject-senate-border-ukraine-aid-deal

They are not.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 06, 2024, 04:26:48 PM »

Not one bit of what you provided had to do with 2016.

What about the US Government that is interested in securing the US border?

Seems they are more interested in securing the borders of Ukraine (against Putin, by the way) and Israel.

Can you even see straight, given all the crapola you have spewed lately?

WEAK...Weak...

We had a deal to strengthen the border that everybody liked but your daddy Trump ordered his minions to kill it before they even read it.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/05/trump-maga-senate-border-deal-mcconnell

Trump wants to screw up this country and tell us that he is the cure.

You remind me of the frightened senior citizens living in Northern Minnesota stockpiling weapons to fight off waves Mexican immigrants sweeping through the countryside. They believe all the stupid shit they see on NewsMax and don't understand where the food in this country really comes from.

Dude, you were ten years old in 2016. You think Trump is securing the nation and it's borders? He couldn't even secure his own twitter account (hacked 3 times).
Dude, you think the Republicans are supporting Putin, yet are voting to spend billions in support of Ukraine in defense of their border against Putin.

You are very funny. Cannot even keep your own story straight.
Umm... They aren't doing that.  They are, very loudly, saying they won't unless Israel gets a bunch of money.  Or were.  Now they want to scrap everything because their god said so.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 03, 2024, 07:48:00 PM »
Kramer won't even try to detangle the Republicans want to be just like the Russians and Putin, supporting his expansion, while at the same time voting to send BILLIONS to Ukraine.

Got a reasonable explanation?
Not if Israel doesn't also get aid.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 03, 2024, 01:05:09 PM »
Trump disagreed with his lawyers offering that. If you can't say that you would take the people prosecuting you out to lunch then this sounds like a rules for thee but not for me situation.
Depends on the situation.  If I were rich and could easily clear my schedule: yeah. 

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 02, 2024, 06:57:30 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/01/politics/roberta-kaplan-donald-trump-deposition-maralago/index.html

This fucking child could actually be elected president again, I can't even

If someone comes to your house and wants to deposition you on a crime that you have allegedly committed, who should be taking who out to lunch, if anyone?
Probably you taking them to lunch.  Good impression and such.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Americans think democracy is in peril
« on: February 02, 2024, 06:16:13 PM »
There are far too many people who believe "they" want to enslave us, kill us, use lasers from space to burn hawaii so they can buy up cheap land, inject us with nanites to turn is unti 5G antennas, etc..

I am convinced that a large chunk of the population is so used to being told that the world is ending that they just make up the worse things they can to explain a situation that keeps them angry and afraid.

When the villagers respond to every cry the boy makes of wolf, they start seeing wolves everywhere.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 02, 2024, 06:10:35 PM »
He successfully manipulated Trump many times while he was in office, and if Trump is reelected, he'll undoubtedly do so again.

If you mean by "successfully manipulated" he avoided doing anything while Trump was president. Putin repeatedly said he didn't want to perform any major actions while Trump was president because he felt Trump "didn't understand the details of geopolitics". In other words, Putin watched Trump kill an Iranian general in response to a single American death and knew Trump would overreact to Ukraine. Putin waited until a weaker leader like Biden got into office, then invaded Ukraine, knowing Biden wouldn't do anything.

The "Trump is a Putin puppet" narrative has never applied to the real world; that anyone still parrots it is concerning. Yes, Trump said Putin was very, very smart. He also said Kim Jong was very, very smart. He also said Ted Cruz was very, very smart. Trump says it about literally everyone he wants something from.

inb4 "Biden giving old outdated weapons to Ukraine is definitely doing something!" and "Putin planned the invasion while Trump was president!" even though the buildup didn't start until after Biden won.
My main point of evidence is when Trump has a talk with Putin behind closed doors then comes out and says "He told me they didn't interfere so they didn't interfere." Despite the people under Trump's leadership saying that Russia did, in fact, interfere.

And I'm not sure Trump would have done something.  His big push in the last year was to get out of as many wars and alliances as he could.  If he did anything, it would have been in response to his supporters demanding it.  And I'm not sure they care.  Do they care? (I legit do not know)

Then, yes, he'd have an overblown response.  What, I don't know but it probably would have been the biggest attack ever.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 02, 2024, 01:38:36 PM »
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226626397/trump-defamation-trial

Winning bigly.

Trump is actually winning 1 - 0 on these sex lawsuits after all appeals are concluded. As I recall you guys spent years gloating over this person.



Now this is clever. You bring up Stormy Daniels in general terms, and then post a screenshot regarding her defamation lawsuit against Trump being dismissed. In this way, you're implying - not outright stating, but very heavily implying - that all the hubbub about Daniels can be chalked up to this one lawsuit which has been dismissed. It's extremely disingenuous on your part, but it is clever, so I'll admit I'm impressed. Anyway, in case anyone here needs a reminder, the big deal regarding Daniels isn't her defamation lawsuit, it's the illegal hush money payment to her that Trump is currently being prosecuted for, and that Michael Cohen has already gone to prison over. Trump probably won't be convicted of it, because politicians have a long history of successfully blaming crimes that benefited them and that they almost certainly ordered or at least were complicit in on their underlings. To be sure, Trump's story that Cohen apparently chose to spend $130,000 of his own money and break the law entirely for Trump's benefit, but Trump himself knew nothing of this, is laughably untrue, but the way trials work is that the prosecution do have to present the evidence that proves the defendant guilty and can't just say that the defendant is guilty because obviously the defendant is guilty, even if everyone knows that the defendant really is obviously guilty. That's how George W. Bush got away with blaming the leaking of Valerie Plame's identity as a CIA agent on Scooter Libby, or Chris Christie got away with deliberately blocking the highway of a mayor who didn't endorse him in an election on two staffers who undoubtedly had no idea that their boss would throw them under the bus if and when their crime eventually came to light. Anyway, assuming that Trump will be acquitted, this prosecution will still be a nice permanent stain on his record. Anyone can file a lawsuit, but a full-blown criminal prosecution is the kind of thing that clings to you even long after the fact.

[quote author=Action80

Let's be clear on this point, especially given Action80's response to this. There is no genuine friendship or camaraderie between Trump and Putin. Trump probably thinks there is, but to Putin, Trump is nothing more than a useful idiot, someone he can easily twist and manipulate into saying and doing what he wants through flattery and favors. He successfully manipulated Trump many times while he was in office, and if Trump is reelected, he'll undoubtedly do so again.

Well, duh.


So, everything regarding the entire story of RUSSIA. RUSsia, russia, is equivalent to a blade of grass behind a pane of glass.
I dunno.
Trump really likes Putin.  And Putin loves Trump.
You have a problem with two people getting along with each other?

Depends on the people.  Typically you get along with someone when they do things you approve of.  Do you approve of what Putin does?

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: February 01, 2024, 05:25:33 PM »
So, everything regarding the entire story of RUSSIA. RUSsia, russia, is equivalent to a blade of grass behind a pane of glass.
I dunno.
Trump really likes Putin.  And Putin loves Trump.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 31, 2024, 07:11:36 PM »
The case honk lined to was a defamation case, just like the case in the screenshot was a defamation case. Trump also called Stormy names which 'defamed' her character. But alas, in the end it was Stormy who was told to pay Trump and not Trump who was told to pay Stormy.

Ah, right.  Sorry, its hard to keep track of all the different cases he's fighting.

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Philosophy, Religion & Society / Re: Trump
« on: January 31, 2024, 10:25:00 AM »
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1226626397/trump-defamation-trial

Winning bigly.

Trump is actually winning 1 - 0 on these sex lawsuits after all appeals are concluded. As I recall you guys spent years gloating over this person.



Why are you holding up a defermation lawsuit as a victory against sexual assault suit?
Stormy was a willing participant in grandpa sex with Trump and her issue was the hush money she got paid which may have been illegal.

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What is your name?
What is your university?
What is your title?

And where do you plan to publish this study?

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